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11-12-2011, 02:33 PM
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The Future of Brad Boyes?

I was curious as to what people thought would happen to Brad Boyes after this season. His contract expires, but we are still close to the salary cap. So do you think we will re-sign him or let him go and have Tropp or Kassian come up? Maybe even both? To me, it seems smart to try to re-sign him for less (I don't think he has earned his 4 mill. salary) and for maybe 2 seasons. This will give us depth and allow more time Tropp and Kassian to develop.

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Im sure it will all depend on how well he does this year and how far along some people develop this year

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Eventually, have grandkids, grow old, vote Republican, die softly in his sleep, having fond dreams of his Stanley Cup winning years in Buffalo, probably.

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Don't see him coming back at any price under any circumstance.

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Don't see him coming back at any price under any circumstance.
Not saying he will re-sign, but I've been really impressed with his play the last week and a half. Hopefully he keeps it up.

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I was curious as to what people thought would happen to Brad Boyes after this season. His contract expires, but we are still close to the salary cap. So do you think we will re-sign him or let him go and have Tropp or Kassian come up? Maybe even both? To me, it seems smart to try to re-sign him for less (I don't think he has earned his 4 mill. salary) and for maybe 2 seasons. This will give us depth and allow more time Tropp and Kassian to develop.
Technically anything is possible, but the most likely scenario is that he walks. He has played well but its hard to envision a scenario where we have the room to keep him, given the raises for Myers and Ennis next year.

I expect the same will be true with Hecht, so I believe that both Kassian and Tropp will make the team next year. The bottom six might look something like Gerbe-Goose-Tropp and Ennis-Cody-Kassian. But thinking hard about such projections would be premature.

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Plain and simple, the Sabres will be moving on without Brad Boyes next season.

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I'm sure if he keeps playing the way he is they would love to bring him back.

I'm also sure that if he plays well enough that they would want to bring him back, they wouldn't be able to afford him.

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I'm loving the Bradley Boyes who has been wearing a Buffalo Sabre's jersey since his 500th career NHL game. THAT player. Is SOL-ID. Dude has been responsible without the puck, and flat out brilliant on the power play. If he plays like this all season they are gonna NEED him in the playoffs and signing him long term would be smart too.

The only problem is that Myers cap hit jumps up like 4 million next season, and that's how much Boyes makes. So, unless they can trade Leino they are gonna have to trade Boyes at the deadline. Which SUCKS, but I suspect he would be highly sought after.

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I would bet anything Boyes won't be in Buffalo after July 1st next year. There's just no circumstance under which it works out.

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I'm loving the Bradley Boyes who has been wearing a Buffalo Sabre's jersey since his 500th career NHL game. THAT player. Is SOL-ID. Dude has been responsible without the puck, and flat out brilliant on the power play. If he plays like this all season they are gonna NEED him in the playoffs and signing him long term would be smart too.

The only problem is that Myers cap hit jumps up like 4 million next season, and that's how much Boyes makes. So, unless they can trade Leino they are gonna have to trade Boyes at the deadline. Which SUCKS, but I suspect he would be highly sought after.
Huh?

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I would bet anything Boyes won't be in Buffalo after July 1st next year. There's just no circumstance under which it works out.
Done. And done.

Too many prospects knocking at the door

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Huh?
It's written in English, what more do you want me to do to help you understand what you just read?

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It's written in English, what more do you want me to do to help you understand what you just read?
Why would Myers' cap hit next season force the Sabres to trade Boyes this season?

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It's written in English, what more do you want me to do to help you understand what you just read?
Why in god's name would they trade him at the deadline? They'll need him for the POs.

The Sabres aren't some rebuilding team that can't let guys walk without getting assets back.......

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I'm loving the Bradley Boyes who has been wearing a Buffalo Sabre's jersey since his 500th career NHL game. THAT player. Is SOL-ID. Dude has been responsible without the puck, and flat out brilliant on the power play. If he plays like this all season they are gonna NEED him in the playoffs and signing him long term would be smart too.

The only problem is that Myers cap hit jumps up like 4 million next season, and that's how much Boyes makes. So, unless they can trade Leino they are gonna have to trade Boyes at the deadline. Which SUCKS, but I suspect he would be highly sought after.
They don't have to do anything

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I would bet anything Boyes won't be in Buffalo after July 1st next year. There's just no circumstance under which it works out.
Word.

If he plays well enough that they want to re-sign him, they won't be able to afford him.

If they can afford to re-sign him, it means he isn't playing well enough that they would want him back.

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It's written in English, what more do you want me to do to help you understand what you just read?
I don't know buddy, you tell me:

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Why would Myers' cap hit next season force the Sabres to trade Boyes this season?

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He hasn't even played half a season as a sabre. I just have to laugh at all the fans that made it seem like he was already out the door once he got here.


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I don't know buddy, you tell me:
Well, they are near the ceiling right now, correct? They had too bury like 5 million in salary to get under the cap, so it's probably pretty tight to the ceiling right now. Next year, Myers contract extension begins, which means that he will take up about 4 million more in cap space. So, if they sign Boyes, they will be about 4 million over the cap. It makes more sense to bring up an entry level contract player rather than spend 4 million on a 4th line power play specialist don't you think?

So, they could let him go for nothing and hope he helps in the playoffs, or they could package him for a better player to help in the playoffs. It will depend on injuries.

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Whether Boyes is re-signed will depend on the following factors:

a) His play, specifically in the playoffs.
b) Where the salary cap ends up (and this can't be understated. How the new CBA looks will make a big difference).
c) New deals for Ennis/Gaustad/Kaleta/Gragnani (specifically the first two)
d) Hecht's health/quality of play, and if he can be re-signed cheaper.

I only see one of Hecht/Boyes kept at the max.

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Whether Boyes is re-signed will depend on the following factors:

a) His play, specifically in the playoffs.
b) Where the salary cap ends up (and this can't be understated. How the new CBA looks will make a big difference).
c) New deals for Ennis/Gaustad/Kaleta/Gragnani (specifically the first two)
d) Hecht's health/quality of play, and if he can be re-signed cheaper.

I only see one of Hecht/Boyes kept at the max.
I think you can add Kassian's development to the list of factors that will influence what happens with Boyes. If Kassian has a strong rookie season, it's possible he could earn a roster spot in Buffalo next year just as Adam, Ennis and Gerbe did after 1 year of AHL tutelage. If Regier thinks the odds of that happening are good, he may let Boyes walk away.

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Well, they are near the ceiling right now, correct? They had too bury like 5 million in salary to get under the cap, so it's probably pretty tight to the ceiling right now. Next year, Myers contract extension begins, which means that he will take up about 4 million more in cap space. So, if they sign Boyes, they will be about 4 million over the cap. It makes more sense to bring up an entry level contract player rather than spend 4 million on a 4th line power play specialist don't you think?

So, they could let him go for nothing and hope he helps in the playoffs, or they could package him for a better player to help in the playoffs. It will depend on injuries.
Remember that piece about the Buffalo Sabres' reason of existence? Something about winning something.
If they have to let him go for nothing... so be it.

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So, they could let him go for nothing and hope he helps in the playoffs, or they could package him for a better player to help in the playoffs. It will depend on injuries.
This ≠ "the Sabres have to trade Brad Boyes."

If they can package Boyes for something better, fine. But otherwise, he's a good player who will be here all season, and then he'll go his merry way on July 1.

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I'd say he has about a 10 percent chance of being on this team next year.

1. With Pominville on this team, Boyes is redundant, except he's not good at defense.

2. Tropp brings a utility role that Boyes does not provide.

3. We'll need cap space to pay for Myers and Ennis new contracts.

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