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11-14-2011, 06:53 AM
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Still... still perplexed as to why the team playing the 1-3-1 won't forecheck when they're down 4-0.
Why?
Indeed. Rigid adherence to systems even when they aren't working for you. It's doubly likely when a team is copying someone else's system.


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11-14-2011, 08:26 AM
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Patrick Roy called it a year ago.



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And clearly Patrick Roy is a fitting role model as a coach!


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soccer teams would pressure the ball
No... they would go to defend and try to keep the score as low as they can, especially if is a weaker team than the one winning

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And clearly Patrick Roy is a fitting role model as a coach!

Fixed that for you.

And quite frankly, you should attack the argument not the speaker.

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It's a bit different if it's at the end of the game. At that point, you just want to get the hell out of there.
Even if you're losing, you should try and fight to the las second and show some spunk and effort. There's no excuse for mailing it in.

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11-14-2011, 09:33 AM
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Fabes was definitely up to this. Haha

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11-14-2011, 09:51 AM
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That's so full of fail. You're sentencing your team to lose in that circumstance.

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11-14-2011, 10:07 AM
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And clearly Patrick Roy is a fitting role model as a coach!
With the system he uses, yes he should be. Offensive and exciting hockey the way it should be played.

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Good. This strategy should be employed more often and the referees should not be blowing the whistle.

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Good. This strategy should be employed more often and the referees should not be blowing the whistle.
So long as the 1-3-1 team is either tied or losing, I agree.

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11-14-2011, 11:06 AM
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There was less than 2 minutes left in the 3rd, still that is no excuse not to forecheck.

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People keep talking about the 1-3-1 and 1-2-2 and saying 'doesn't everyone play this way'. No they don't. There is a big difference between a 1-3-1 with a forechecker and a 1-3-1 neutral zone trap. The former is fine, the latter is an embarrassment to the game of hockey and should be banned. Simple rule. Any team that refuses to attempt to pressure the puck carrier for 10 seconds gets a delay of game penalty. Allow the rule to consider a forechecking forward standing in front of the crease when the puck is behind the net to be considered pressuring the puck.

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this is so simple to fix its not even funny.. all this talk about what should or shouldn't be done but really answer is simple. At the ref discretion or after a specified count, both teams get a delay of game penalty and play 4 on 4. Done.. now back to some real hockey!

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People keep talking about the 1-3-1 and 1-2-2 and saying 'doesn't everyone play this way'. No they don't. There is a big difference between a 1-3-1 with a forechecker and a 1-3-1 neutral zone trap. The former is fine, the latter is an embarrassment to the game of hockey and should be banned. Simple rule. Any team that refuses to attempt to pressure the puck carrier for 10 seconds gets a delay of game penalty. Allow the rule to consider a forechecking forward standing in front of the crease when the puck is behind the net to be considered pressuring the puck.
Someone fax this in to the league... boom done!

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People keep talking about the 1-3-1 and 1-2-2 and saying 'doesn't everyone play this way'. No they don't. There is a big difference between a 1-3-1 with a forechecker and a 1-3-1 neutral zone trap. The former is fine, the latter is an embarrassment to the game of hockey and should be banned. Simple rule. Any team that refuses to attempt to pressure the puck carrier for 10 seconds gets a delay of game penalty. Allow the rule to consider a forechecking forward standing in front of the crease when the puck is behind the net to be considered pressuring the puck.
That is stupid, the same could be applied to the inverse.

The team that has the puck has the onus to go attack, don't want to turn this into another battle though.

The best solution is two delays of game and 4 on 4

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11-14-2011, 01:52 PM
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No... they would go to defend and try to keep the score as low as they can, especially if is a weaker team than the one winning
...that means exactly like he said, they would pressure the ball. Usually in soccer one of the strikers would "attack" the defender in that case.

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If the other team plays a 1-3-1 just pull a Milan Lucic and take a run at the goalie, that will get their attention.

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That is stupid, the same could be applied to the inverse.

The team that has the puck has the onus to go attack, don't want to turn this into another battle though.

The best solution is two delays of game and 4 on 4
Not it's not, because the trap is what is killing the game of hockey, not the act of bringing the puck up the ice. If hockey is not entertaining, the game will die. The trap will kill the entertainment of hockey. The goal should be to get the trap out of the game. Hence, you penalize any team that plays the neutral zone trap to this extreme. And that's what we're talking about in Tampa, an extreme version of the trap that should not be allowed in hockey unless we all want to watch the league die a slow boring death as fans walk away from it. I'm a life long hockey fan and player and I would tear up my season tickets if my team started to play this crap. No interest in watching a game like this.

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Not it's not, because the trap is what is killing the game of hockey, not the act of bringing the puck up the ice. If hockey is not entertaining, the game will die. The trap will kill the entertainment of hockey. The goal should be to get the trap out of the game. Hence, you penalize any team that plays the neutral zone trap to this extreme. And that's what we're talking about in Tampa, an extreme version of the trap that should not be allowed in hockey unless we all want to watch the league die a slow boring death as fans walk away from it. I'm a life long hockey fan and player and I would tear up my season tickets if my team started to play this crap. No interest in watching a game like this.

If the trap was killing hockey. It would have been dead 30 years ago. Garbage argument.

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