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11-16-2011, 05:22 PM
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Should season ticket holders choose the Coach and GM?

Just follow me here a second.

In life we go to the voting POLLS every 4 years (or sooner.) to elect on the Federal level.We goto the polls in our cities and towns to elect on provincial levels .You cast your vote , you let it do the talking .

NHL player union votes on accepting new Cba etc....



Why not in hockey?


Could it not be simple enough to allow the season ticket holders ,too voice their power on the coach and the gm?

Why not have elected management(coach and gm)?
Have them held accountable by the TICKET PAYERS, who foot the bill for the hockey teams yearly .


Have a list of candidates make it known their interested in running for the coach or gm position ,and then let the season ticket holder vote every 2 or 3 years.This way here , the people paying to ice these teams , got no reason to complain.If they don't like what's going on vote against them and for someone new, If you like what going on , vote for existing managment again .


What does everyone think?


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No.

The majority of fans are rather stupid.

Sorry.

(Excluding HF posters, that is )

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How about you just let me pick those things. I really think a Milbury/Carbo tandem would do wonders.

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No.

The majority of fans are rather stupid.

Sorry.

(Excluding HF posters, that is )
If that is true , then why does every Canadian (not matter the IQ level) get to vote on who will look after how out tax dollars are spent??

All i'm saying , the paying ticket holder who pays the 7000-10,000 -20,000 dollar for seat a year , should get the power to vote in the coach and gm, and vote them out if they don't like the performance or direction .


It is done with most everything in our lives....i say why not hockey .

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You can't (legally) avoid taxes.
You can avoid buying season tickets.

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It is done with most everything in our lives....i say why not hockey .
But it isn't, it's done to elect political representatives to the various levels of state.

In terms of private business the only people who get to vote are shareholders (in the case of a publically traded company) and/or a board of directors. Season ticket holders = customers, not shareholders.

One issue (of many probably but its the first that comes to mind) is how many season tickets are in fact held by corporate entities and how that could affect team directions , creating a situation where the GM and HC are then working for corporate interests outside the Habs org. in hopes of securing blocks of votes.

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No.

The majority of fans are rather stupid.

Sorry.

(Excluding HF posters, that is )

nailed it, if you've currently have a job working with the public or have ever had a job working with the public you realize pretty quick that the general population are all very very stupid

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LMAO is this guy being serious??

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No... If you could imagine... the best GM's would be in the places where no one cares.
Why anyone asks???

Cause nobody would be paying attention EXCEPT for the die hard hockey fans.

High grade areas would have a hard time keeping ANY GM good or bad ( <-- not that we want any of those).

Because those areas would constant debate, and input from more fairweather fans.

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But it isn't, it's done to elect political representatives to the various levels of state.

In terms of private business the only people who get to vote are shareholders (in the case of a publically traded company) and/or a board of directors. Season ticket holders = customers, not shareholders.

One issue (of many probably but its the first that comes to mind) is how many season tickets are in fact held by corporate entities and how that could affect team directions , creating a situation where the GM and HC are then working for corporate interests outside the Habs org. in hopes of securing blocks of votes.

I just fail to see how there could be any harm


If there a list of 5-7 running in an open process for coach,the season ticket holders cast their vote for who they want.I just don't see the problem.

For instance if there was a day this became reality,

Coach

Crawford
Babcock
Boucher
Martin
Roy

GM

Gauthier
Yzerman
Holmgren
Burke


It would be interesting.to see who the paying fans voted in .


It also could be interesting as it could really open the team up and put us on a level playing field with everyone else in the NHL.

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So why would the Molsons give up their control over the team?

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I know that if I was the owner of a multi million dollar, private organization, I'd love to cede control of my investment to a large group of irrational, emotional hockey fanatics who would tear my team to the ground. Sounds like a sound business decision to me. I think Geoff Molson may just go for it. That sounds like an equally good idea to me

Maybe you should run up to him with your proposal written on a gun and wave it at him while saying "Hey Geoff, I got something for you here and you're gonna love it!"

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But it isn't, it's done to elect political representatives to the various levels of state.

In terms of private business the only people who get to vote are shareholders (in the case of a publically traded company) and/or a board of directors. Season ticket holders = customers, not shareholders.

One issue (of many probably but its the first that comes to mind) is how many season tickets are in fact held by corporate entities and how that could affect team directions , creating a situation where the GM and HC are then working for corporate interests outside the Habs org. in hopes of securing blocks of votes.


Season ticket holders pay directly player salaries...


I just fail to see how or where the risk could be in having the paying season ticket holder elect the coach and gm.

I mean , imagine all these men in the year 2015 express public desire to be coach of Montreal

Muller
Martin
Boucher
Roy
Babcock
Quenville
Blasma


then all these men express public desire to run in 2015 for gm in Montreal

Gauthier
Yzerman
Bowman
Holland
Lou Lam
Burke
Nilan

Then the season ticket holders vote for 1 for gm ,one for coach.


Now you got 21,273 that actually pay to float the team yearly. Of that i think around 70% are season ticket holders due to Montreal wanting to allow Joe and Moe Blow the chance to get into games .So they cap out season tixs at 65/70 percent .

Again it would be very interesting to see.

And it might actually put the org onto the same level playing field as all other 29 nhl teams....That might be a unexpected positive result in all of that ,but not why i mention it .

I just like to see the management go before the paying customers every 2 or 3 years, to get a vote of confidence or non vote ....


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Will someone please think of the season ticket holders! Curious...if you add up all the money from season ticket revenue for this season, will it cover Gomez's annual cap hit?

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If that is true , then why does every Canadian (not matter the IQ level) get to vote on who will look after how out tax dollars are spent??

All i'm saying , the paying ticket holder who pays the 7000-10,000 -20,000 dollar for seat a year , should get the power to vote in the coach and gm, and vote them out if they don't like the performance or direction .


It is done with most everything in our lives....i say why not hockey .
I can't believe you actually think you make sense.

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This could not be a stupider idea ..... Your can't be serious?.... My mind is hurting

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Is Democracy the best form of government? Mob rule?

Owners, have the right to appoint and hire staff...

The bigger question should be is should hockey teams be floated on the stock exchange, PLC, so we can buy shares and in theory be part or have the opportunity to have a more direct say...Or the chance to have a more direct say in the the appointment of staff...but hey money talks and you know what walks so...

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