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11-16-2011, 02:55 PM
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Why would we trade with Montreal for anything other than extreme overpayment? Gomez sucks. He's on their fourth line.

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11-16-2011, 02:57 PM
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Gomez is downright awful. Hasn't scored since February 11th of last year or something like that..

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11-16-2011, 02:57 PM
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If gomez became a Leaf I'd literally puke. Ever bad thing I ever said to my Habs fan friends and family would be thrown in my face.

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11-16-2011, 03:06 PM
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Cody Franson is a good player. I watched him quite a bit last year and I liked what I saw. Now, give the guy this, he did play with Weber but this is what I don't understand. Weber seemed to take the guy low and to the net where he had the strength to do that and Franson played a little outside. He played great in that system. Here, we ask him to take the forward crashing the net, which he never did before and have a guy like Komisarek trying to block shots and leaving him with no help. Just me, I don't think Wilson uses him well and to be honest he doesn't use many d-men well here. I don't care what some posters say here, we have some really good defencemen on this team that would be focal points on other teams but in Toronto we fail to utilize them. How this team gives up so many chances is by positioning and responsibilities. There is nothing wrong with Franson, when you have a coaching staff to start the season decide to play their own first round pic that played his tail off for you for the last couple of seasons only ten minutes a game, you are asking your vet d-man in Phaneuf to already be eating close to 30 minutes a game, the problem is the coaching.

Franson is a hell of player with great wheels for a big man. When he leaves here he will be a fixture on someones blue line and look great and many of you will wonder how come he could never do that here.
We do have a bad defensive system in place which doesn't utilize our D properly

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11-16-2011, 03:07 PM
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If gomez became a Leaf I'd literally puke. Ever bad thing I ever said to my Habs fan friends and family would be thrown in my face.
It would be one of the worst days in the franchise's history. Thats how bad it would be. I honestly could say it would be the last straw for me.

Done with the Leafs.

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11-16-2011, 03:07 PM
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Gomez is downright awful. Hasn't scored since February 11th of last year or something like that..
I'm with you. I can't see how we are entertaining this at all.

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11-16-2011, 03:08 PM
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I honestly could say it would be the last straw for me.

Done with the Leafs.
If I only had a dime for every time I've...........................

44 years and counting

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11-16-2011, 03:10 PM
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The player in the trade is....yes....John Mitchell!!!

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11-16-2011, 03:10 PM
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2nd + Crosby

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11-16-2011, 03:15 PM
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why would Franson be traded for a grinder and a pick? he's one of their biggest assets (in a trade sense) on d. they'll regret letting this kid go he hasnt even had a chance to play for the leafs. dont do it

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11-16-2011, 03:19 PM
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Hopefully it is for

Tyler Seguin
Brad Richards
Jeff Carter
Tuuka Rask

so that the crying might possibly stop

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11-16-2011, 03:20 PM
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i bet other gms just love dealing with toronto because there is so much pressure for them to trade everyone under the sun for everything new and unleafafied. ive never thought the coach was a big thing to blame it on, but lately, i just dont know anymore. maybe it is time to fire wilson?

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11-16-2011, 03:20 PM
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id rather have komi then gomez right now. If gomez only made 4.5 m instead of 7 things might be different.

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11-16-2011, 05:15 PM
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The 40 page thread where everything new and interesting is hidden. Love those threads.

Don't get why mods always hide news in those long threads.
They usually hide speculation in those threads, because countless amounts of people who place high credibility in just about any faceless entity, love posting speculation from unreputable sources on a daily basis that they are the only ones interested in.

That is why you get those long threads, because no one else cares about any of it.

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11-16-2011, 05:33 PM
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i bet other gms just love dealing with toronto because there is so much pressure for them to trade everyone under the sun for everything new and unleafafied. ive never thought the coach was a big thing to blame it on, but lately, i just dont know anymore. maybe it is time to fire wilson?
GM's should have the Leafs on ignore if they know whats good for them.

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11-16-2011, 06:28 PM
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Wouldn't it be great if it was nabocov (however you spell it) and a second for franson?

Franson gets to play, nab gets to be the starter while James is out, and we have a second round pick in a very deep draft.

Doubt it but one could only hope.

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11-16-2011, 06:33 PM
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11-16-2011, 06:33 PM
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Yeah, most likely it was for Gomez and a 2nd.

Which is amazingly idiotic of Gauthier. Bob Gainey isn't our GM.

Gotta suck it up and deal with having Gomez around for abit longer.

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11-16-2011, 06:47 PM
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Yeah, most likely it was for Gomez and a 2nd.

Which is amazingly idiotic of Gauthier. Bob Gainey isn't our GM.

Gotta suck it up and deal with having Gomez around for abit longer.
That wouldn't make sense since we don't got the cap space for that kind of deal. We'd HAVE to deal Lombardi+Komo and that was an entirely different rumor.

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11-16-2011, 07:00 PM
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http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Richa...umor/131/39770

Thoughts?

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11-16-2011, 07:06 PM
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Hanzel + 3rd.

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Franson + 2nd.

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11-16-2011, 07:08 PM
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I'd probaley do it.

Omark could really help our PP.

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11-16-2011, 07:09 PM
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no place for omark on this team... pass

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Terrible deal for Leafs.

Omark + 2nd

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Franson.

Omark is:
- too small
- too weak
- threatening to leave NA if he doesn't play in the NHL
- poor attitude
- no defensive awareness

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11-16-2011, 07:10 PM
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Makes sense, looks like the Leafs value Franson over Omark who wouldn't be any better off in Toronto anyway.

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