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11-16-2011, 10:05 AM
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If Franz can barely crack the top six, he's not going to garner a 2nd when a 2nd is better suited to serving a teams needs.

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11-16-2011, 10:06 AM
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I tend to believe what Darren Dreger says, so I believe it's true. If he got this offer and turned it down it could be to go to another team and say this is the offer i have, what can you do to beat it. It was probably Nashville offering Lebda and a 2nd to get him back.
you forgot the or

we arent missing franson...

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11-16-2011, 10:15 AM
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lol, loving all the armchair GM's here.

What do you think it takes to dump 7 mill over two years? More than a 2nd rounder.

Burke values Franson more than that, and doesn't have any reason to deal him for what he thinks is fair value when the team has been hit by injuries.

The only reason to trade him is if someone plays alot more, which is exactly what he said.

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11-16-2011, 10:16 AM
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Yes your goaltending has been brutal, but it doesn't help when the defense constantly hangs them out to dry. How many 2on1's and break away's per game does TO's D allow, I'll bet you their among the league leaders in that department. Then TO has the worst PK in the league, which is the major problem. Yes Colby Armstrong will improve that stat when he gets back, but it takes more then one man to PK.
It's a product of the coaching there also. They want the D jumping in which attributes to odd-man rushes. Whether or not they want a forward dropping back, I'm not sure...sure doesn't look like it.

The best PKer is the goalie. Reimer back should improve the numbers. I believe they were at least middle of the pack when Reimer was in net..thought I heard that in the last game.

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gomez + a 2nd?

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11-16-2011, 10:22 AM
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I'm a bruins fan, I would give T.O a second for Franson. I would keep him as our 7th. We normally have injurys to our back end and think we're atleast a year away from our young guns making the jump. I was thinking a third earlier this year but a second would be fine.

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11-16-2011, 10:28 AM
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lol, loving all the armchair GM's here.
I am now picturing people in armchairs working on computers.

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11-16-2011, 10:44 AM
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oilers could of offered brule plus a second.

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Right now Franson's value is almost entirely based on his play in Nashville. The longer he sits in the press box, the more people will forget about what he did there and start asking what he isn't doing now to push his way onto the leafs.

Sure they can keep him for backup, but then they are neglecting their other needs. I do agree that nuts wasn't the right word. I just think he could also use his depth to help his injury problems up front.

I also find it funny how he's trying to use the media, in typical Burkian fashion, to negotiate a bigger return. He's the king of playing the media like a fiddle.
Do you actually believe that?

If so how could that possibly work. Other than gm's having so little self-confidence that they seek the approval of numbskull reporters to guide them. These guys talk to eachother whenever they want, why take the word of a reporter for anything when you can just the call the man himself. Burke likes the spotlight and uses the media for that purpose shamelessly but as far as using them to increase player value, not bloody likely. The media just doesn't pack much punch with those at the top of the industry, only with some readers who don't follow stories closely enough to form thier own opinions.

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11-16-2011, 10:49 AM
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I don't believe the Leafs were offered that unless the player involved in a cap dump.

I also don't believe Burke is going to trade him with a pick being the major selling point as Toronto needs to make the playoffs this year.

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Burke is a dirty liar to the media anyway. Who says this is actually true?
Where does the twitter post say Burke said that...Yeah didn't see that either. Go talk somewhere else...

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Gomez + 2rd vs Franson
If you wants to trade Gomez you must change 2rd for 1rd...

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gomez + a 2nd?
Salary cap.

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Halak and a 2nd...

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Well Comeau and a second rounder isn't it.
Garth would offer Nabokov first.

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11-16-2011, 11:47 AM
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I could see it being something like Dubinsky + 2nd for Franson. But of course we'd have to bump it up to a 1st to get it done.

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Halak and a 2nd...
You forgot Ryder

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To anybody who thinks it's a salary dump player to make them selves feel better. Go look at capgeek.

As it stands today we have $530,913 in cap space. The player offered is more than likely making less than $1m

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lol, loving all the armchair GM's here.
You must be new to the trade boards.

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To anybody who thinks it's a salary dump player to make them selves feel better. Go look at capgeek.

As it stands today we have $530,913 in cap space. The player offered is more than likely making less than $1m
Toronto could take on a 2M player and send him to the minors.

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I'd rather hold onto Franson. If this season is any indication, were going to have a season riddled with injuries. At some point it could be one of our defense that goes down. Franson can than step in for us.

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Sounds like the Leafs bluffing and trying to raise his value.

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Franson

for

Zuccarello + 2nd


Denied.
Why would we do that when we just signed Stralman? There is simply no reason for the Rangers to be interested in Franson unless he's on waivers or coming back for a late round pick.

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this is NOT the first time a team contacted burke for franson.

is pierre le brun a shill for burke too? because he said teams were interested weeks ago
Shows you just how much the Rangers cared about him since we signed a UFA for cheap instead of moving any real asset for a press box hero like Franson.

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I remain convinced that this is just Burke trying to raise his value through the media. Smart ploy to try, but these things don't usually work out like that.

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I would love to see Franson on the Jets, he would be a got fit here with all the other former Vancouver Giants we have on our roster. I know it wasn't us that made the offer though, as Chevy would be imprudent to trade draft picks on a team that needs to amass some...I would trade Cormier or Wheeler however for Franson...

Probably Burke just trying to light a fire under his players...although Calgary could use a defenseman bad enough to make that trade....

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Toronto could take on a 2M player and send him to the minors.
Why?

We could take a $5m player and send him directly the minors so what does "$2m" matter(Not interested in Brule BTW).

7 months ago(give or take) Franson was look upon as Weber-lite who's value was a hell of a lot higher than it is today. So what? Did he forget how to play hockey over the summer? Or is the fact he's wearing a Blue and white sweater now. He's played 4 regular season games since his last playoff game for Nashville. He's needs to be given a better look here in Toronto, And there's no point IMO trading him now for scraps.

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