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Is it true that goalies were scared of Al MacInnis's slap shot?

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11-18-2011, 07:09 PM
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See, this is a prime example of a player's 'legend' eclipsing the truth.
Realistically nobody in history has shot a puck 120mph; at least not by the methods shots are measured today.


From 1965 Sports Illustrated
At 95 mph Hull's slap shot is the fastest in the league.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vau...6832/index.htm
Thanks for the article. 105 mph sound much more realistic. However, someone did clock his shot at 118.3 mph in the 60's. I can't recall who it was though.

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11-18-2011, 07:20 PM
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Thanks for the article. 105 mph sound much more realistic. However, someone did clock his shot at 118.3 mph in the 60's. I can't recall who it was though.
From an article in "popular mechanics" starts on page 110. see link below


http://books.google.com/books?id=jdQ...page&q&f=false

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11-18-2011, 07:26 PM
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It would be interesting to know what methods were used to measure Hull's 118 shot, especially considering 6 other players registered speeds faster than the fastest shots of today on record. It's an important factor if we're comparing Hull's shot to MacInnis' or other cross-era players.

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11-19-2011, 04:36 AM
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dont forget that during the 60s the curves on stick blades were essentially unlimited. I think the main effect was how the puck would flutter but didnt it increase the speed as well. As I remember Bobby Hull was one of the first to use a curved stick and as others saw the effect more and more started using one. Cant remember exactly when it was (late 60s?) but eventually they changed the rules to limit the curves as they were afraid a goalie would get killed. Might explain increases in the numbers from mid to late 60s.


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11-19-2011, 09:11 AM
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^^^ Legend has it that it was Stan Mikita who accidentally invented the curved stick. Story goes he threw a temper tantrum after a practice & started busting sticks, one in particular just enough to bend but not break the blade after jamming it under a bench gate. He started shooting pucks with it and was astounded to see the changes in the principal of the flight of the puck, Hull watching all of this from a corner in the rink. Mikita asked his stick supplier to pre-curve the blades at the plant, Hull following suit, from which it caught on & spread like wildfire throughout the league & right on down to Tyke's...

Up until 1967 (when a 3/4" maximum was instituted) there wasnt a limit to the warp, many players using "Banana Blades" with as much as 3" curves. Needless to say, in an era of maskless goalies (or not for that matter) this was extremely dangerous as really with a blade like that you cant really control where the puck might wind up. Dennis Hull in particular was absolutely notorious for putting the puck well into the stratosphere, 60' over the net, glass, taking out patrons or ushers in the upper balconys; end-zones & corners. Often several at a time. Ricochet effect...

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11-19-2011, 03:31 PM
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The best shot ever. Hard, accurate and scary. I don't think players feared it in the sense of being hurt by it, but they certainly feared the chances of it ending in the back of the net.

No one since has had a shot like Al.
Iafrate had a harder shot. Not nearly as accurate but it was harder.

Stu Grimson also had a pretty massive slapper, for that matter. Good luck getting it in the net.

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Yeaahhhh. 'Tis be true.

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Good luck getting it in the net.
Thanks. Anytime... Stoning guys' with heavy duty slap shots was/is one of the biggest attractions & greatest sources of satisfaction for a goaltender. The "scarier" the rep of the shooter, the more you wanna challenge him. You always want to face the best shooters if your any good at all. If a guy beats you youve just learned something and he wont beat you again in the same place or in the same way... Not unless your last names Gilbert, Duffus or Luongo & instead of focusing on the angles, the lie of the shooters blade & his usual modus operandi your thinking about Trotters&Pacers, tasty Eskimo Pies or the commercial shoot youve got in the AM for Party Poker.

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11-19-2011, 04:15 PM
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That's the key. The whole mp/h discussion is an irrelevant here. Many players can shoot with impressive speeds in all star contest or in similar condition, but MacInnis could constantly blast a scary slapper in the game situation.
Correct. Chad Kilger might have arguably had a harder shot than MacInnis. Maybe Jason Arnott too. Guess who I would pick out of the three on the point on the power play?

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12-12-2011, 06:00 AM
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What a beast. You're damn right players were scared of it. His shot was legendary...all the while with a wood stick too. Honed over his childhood ripping slappers of his folks barn in Port Hood. Weird thing is it ran in the family. I played goalie against a couple of his nephews and while none of them were much stock as hockey players they all had rocket shots. With the exception of Aaron who had a pre-season cup of coffee with the blues and played some minor pro. One fella in particular would rip slappers from outside the blueline and I would be legit scared. High, hard and heavy every time. Always seemed to catch you in a bad spot too. Jesus I can still feel them.

On another note is there any YT of his shot on Liut?? I remember it clear as day but can't find any video.

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12-13-2011, 12:02 PM
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Through Thibeau's hand.

That actually glanced off the back of Thibault's glove. Notice how his hand is positioned in the video. The puck went through the gap below his glove and above his pad.

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This guy wins :

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scared? possibly somewhere deep down inside, but then other guys could rip it as well. MacInnis had a way of finding the puck through traffic to the net. Might of had one of the most accurate howitzers in the league. Other guys who had cannons, Iafrate named as one, could fire away and I can believe that if goalies weren't afraid certainly defenders or teammates infront of the net probably were.

Things like that make you really appreciate what little guys like Dino Ciccarrelli did. He was pretty dang close to crossbar height and constantly battling infront of the net while guys are bombing away from the blueline.

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12-13-2011, 05:03 PM
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I don't know about goalies, but everyone else on the ice used to be scared when Jiri Slegr unleashed his slapper.

I remember watching a highlight of him dropping his teammate, Jason Arnott with a slapshot to the face. The announcer prefaced the incident with a... "well, you knew this was going to happen eventually..."

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12-13-2011, 05:26 PM
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Carey Price seems to tell the truth, and from what I understand there's not much difference in velocity between Weber's and MacInnis's shot.


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12-14-2011, 09:00 PM
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That actually glanced off the back of Thibault's glove. Notice how his hand is positioned in the video. The puck went through the gap below his glove and above his pad.
No idea how you're seeing this at all lol.

In the first angle the Chicago players leg is obstructing the view.

The second...way too fast and bad quality video.

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