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11-18-2011, 10:19 AM
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Basically everyone who hates Boston will pick max and everyone who hates Montreal will pick Lucic. Gotta love HF.
Not really. I've seen people posting who prefer Max's skillset to Milan's. I prefer Lucic myself but I can see why many would take Patches because of his blend of size, speed and skill. He reminds of his teammate Erik Cole.

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11-18-2011, 10:20 AM
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I like Lucic game but this was not his best performance.
Neely would never do something like that.
I like how everyone keeps coming back to this video. I respect Cherrys opinion but I am pretty sure that Lucic either broke his nose earlier in that fight, or in another fight previous that week and Orr just popped him in it.

I guess the correct approach would have been to turtle? I'm sure all the habs homers would have more respect for him if he did.

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11-18-2011, 10:25 AM
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Not really. I've seen people posting who prefer Max's skillset to Milan's. I prefer Lucic myself but I can see why many would take Patches because of his blend of size, speed and skill. He reminds of his teammate Erik Cole.
And Lucic had more points and as many goals last year as Erik Cole has ever put up in his entire career. Lucic scored more goals last year than Pacioretty has scored in his entire career.

This may be debatable in the future, but right now it's not. And it ain't even close.

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11-18-2011, 10:28 AM
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And Lucic had more points and as many goals last year as Erik Cole has ever put up in his entire career. Lucic scored more goals last year than Pacioretty has scored in his entire career.

This may be debatable in the future, but right now it's not. And it ain't even close.
Lucic had 1 good year, sure he got to 30 last year but to say its not even close is silly. Patches has not played even 1 full year in the NHL. Once he gets more expirence, he will be ahead of Lucic. Maybe not by alot but IMO he will be ahead.

Oh and this season so far

Lucic 17 games
8 goalis
6 ass
14 Points
+6

Patches 19 Games
9 Goals
7 ass
16 Points
+3



Its alot closer than you think.

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11-18-2011, 10:31 AM
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I like how everyone keeps coming back to this video. I respect Cherrys opinion but I am pretty sure that Lucic either broke his nose earlier in that fight, or in another fight previous that week and Orr just popped him in it.

I guess the correct approach would have been to turtle? I'm sure all the habs homers would have more respect for him if he did.
By that logic, you would have to judge everytime Pacioretty turtled to know if he had a good reason too. But you don't know, and yet you'll still argue about that. Viva La Hfboards (btw, where is that Bruins fans that kept laughing about Theodore back then? Funny times...)

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Even though both are classed as powerforwards, I don't think they can really be compared. Lucic is in the Neely/Tkachuk mold while Patches is in the John LeClair mold.

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11-18-2011, 10:33 AM
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I like how everyone keeps coming back to this video. I respect Cherrys opinion but I am pretty sure that Lucic either broke his nose earlier in that fight, or in another fight previous that week and Orr just popped him in it.

I guess the correct approach would have been to turtle? I'm sure all the habs homers would have more respect for him if he did.
This, thanks for doing the work for me

My opinion is my opinion, it's not stupid or smart or anything other than my opinion

I wouldnt take max on my team because he pulls crap then hides. The next time max fights Colton Orr and can call himself a 30 goal scorer it will be the first time

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11-18-2011, 10:34 AM
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And Lucic had more points and as many goals last year as Erik Cole has ever put up in his entire career. Lucic scored more goals last year than Pacioretty has scored in his entire career.

This may be debatable in the future, but right now it's not. And it ain't even close.
Good for him. I don't care about either team or either player. I was merely stating why I can see someone preferring Patches skillset to Looch's, since you know this thread is made up of nothing but Bruins haters apparently.

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11-18-2011, 10:40 AM
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Lucic, brings more to the table and can hit the 30 goal mark.
Sure, if he comes across 8 open nets every year



I think that Pacioretty will be a better goal scorer than Lucic will be, and surpass him in points. However, Lucic has a far different skillset which makes this comparison difficult, as he adds the grit that Pacioretty doesn't have.

Either way, I'd love both of them on my team

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Good for him. I don't care about either team or either player. I was merely stating why I can see someone preferring Patches skillset to Looch's, since you know this thread is made up of nothing but Bruins haters apparently.
Don't forget Montreal haters too.

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Sure, if he comes across 8 open nets every year


Did he really score 8 empty netters last year?

edit: just saw the stats, 5.

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Who is better?
Does 3 years down the road change your opinion?
Serious question?????

The cynic in my wonders if this isn't just an effort of getting Habs and B's fans to bash one another.

Both good hockey players that every team in the league would be interested in -- other than that they have almost nothing in common.

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From a personal stand-point? Max-Pac, from a logical "What my team needs" view? Lucic.

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Not really. I've seen people posting who prefer Max's skill-set to Milan's. I prefer Lucic myself but I can see why many would take Patches because of his blend of size, speed and skill. He reminds of his teammate Erik Cole.
My thoughts exactly.

Except, uh , I prefer Pacioretty...

I think it's a pretty good poll, considering that depending on the type of game being played, both of them can be considerably better than the other.

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I like how everyone keeps coming back to this video. I respect Cherrys opinion but I am pretty sure that Lucic either broke his nose earlier in that fight, or in another fight previous that week and Orr just popped him in it.

I guess the correct approach would have been to turtle? I'm sure all the habs homers would have more respect for him if he did.
Possible approaches for Lucic could be
1. Pull Orr to the ice (that's what usually happens) but Lucic not strong enough to
2. Do what Pacioretty would do and not engage Orr. Besides Orr has no business being in NHL.
3. Call the refs to duck out of the fight or even be more honest about it and turn his back and run (because that is what he did).

Not sure how you can argue that #3 is honorable or tougher than #2?

But don't hide Lucic behind a broken nose...come on that is weak.

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11-18-2011, 10:55 AM
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Possible approaches for Lucic could be
1. Pull Orr to the ice (that's what usually happens) but Lucic not strong enough to
2. Do what Pacioretty would do and not engage Orr. Besides Orr has no business being in NHL.
3. Call the refs to duck out of the fight or even be more honest about it and turn his back and run (because that is what he did).

Not sure how you can argue that #3 is honorable or tougher than #2?

But don't hide Lucic behind a broken nose...come on that is weak.
I'm sure you'd be willing to say that to Mr. Orr, or Mr. Lucic for that matter, right?

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11-18-2011, 10:57 AM
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I like how everyone keeps coming back to this video. I respect Cherrys opinion but I am pretty sure that Lucic either broke his nose earlier in that fight, or in another fight previous that week and Orr just popped him in it.

I guess the correct approach would have been to turtle? I'm sure all the habs homers would have more respect for him if he did.
i concur. the cherry comments are stupid and uniformed, either way lucic was wounded from a viscous blow colton landed. I wonder how many teams have a player in the 10+ goal dept who have fought orr? it doesnt happen often, because the guy just flat out does damage.


& i think the original poster of this vid mentions neely would never do something like that. please, brasher destroyed him in montreal where neely held on for life (painful to admit). it's no surprise a pure goon will eventually trump a good goal score/fighter.

i didnt realize how good of a player pacioretty is, numbers are excellent. either way i enjoy watching good talent, as long as the bruins win.

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Tough to call. I'll give the edge to Lucic.

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I think a player like Pacioretty is a lot more common than Lucic. Lucic a solid point producer (not as good as Pac) but he is one of the toughest players in the game.

That being said it comes down to a teams needs. If you need strictly scoring, go with Pacioretty. If you need some grit, go with Lucic.

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I don't want to be biased but I don't think I would change Pacioretty from my team for Lucic. I would love to have both though.

Lucic is a guy Montreal needs.

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I'm sure you'd be willing to say that to Mr. Orr, or Mr. Lucic for that matter, right?
Just like if a Bruins fan ever met MaxPac they'd tell him that he hides behind the refs. Like really, my dad is stronger than your dad.

The whole thing of not taking a player because of his on ice character (outside of guys like Cooke or Avery) is absolutely retarded.

It is, homerisim at it's purest form.

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I think a player like Pacioretty is a lot more common than Lucic. Lucic a solid point producer (not as good as Pac) but he is one of the toughest players in the game.

That being said it comes down to a teams needs. If you need strictly scoring, go with Pacioretty. If you need some grit, go with Lucic.
I agree with this. Pacioretty would have to outproduce Lucic by ~20% or so for them to have equal value. Lucic brings things that Pax doesn't, so Pac would have to bring things that Lucic can't. ie) goals and points.

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i concur. the cherry comments are stupid and uniformed, either way lucic was wounded from a viscous blow colton landed. I wonder how many teams have a player in the 10+ goal dept who have fought orr? it doesnt happen often, because the guy just flat out does damage.


& i think the original poster of this vid mentions neely would never do something like that. please, brasher destroyed him in montreal where neely held on for life (painful to admit). it's no surprise a pure goon will eventually trump a good goal score/fighter.

i didnt realize how good of a player pacioretty is, numbers are excellent. either way i enjoy watching good talent, as long as the bruins win.
Its nice to read an objective opinion.

I am a Habs fan true and true, but I do love what Lucic brings to the table and I would take him in Montreal in a heart beat. He has the type of grit that we desperately need in Montreal, but its just that his mean streak can get him and his team in hot water more often than not.

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This, thanks for doing the work for me

My opinion is my opinion, it's not stupid or smart or anything other than my opinion

I wouldnt take max on my team because he pulls crap then hides. The next time max fights Colton Orr and can call himself a 30 goal scorer it will be the first time
I think youre confusing Pacioretty with Subban. Pacioretty minds his own business on the ice...doesnt yap or start crap after the whistle (unlike Milan do you know who I am). The guy is a class act.


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