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11-21-2011, 12:30 PM
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I'm surprised so many people are for this. Carter isn't the kind of player this team needs.

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11-21-2011, 12:52 PM
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If Carter is really asking for a trade. Then he is essentially quitting on the Jackets when times are tough. Not a very encouraging reaction to his first time as the clearcut #1 center on a team. He could hide in Philly and let others work them out of a slump. But in Columbus he is the man at center. Is fighting through this horrible start and laying the groundwork for future success that overwhelming to him?

That should make one pause about acquiring him.
To be fair, Carter was very unhappy right after the trade to Columbus in the summer and took some time before speaking to the media about it. His slow start so far this season seems more due to the injuries he's sustained than anything to do with the context in Columbus. He's only played 9 games so far...


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Before we get too far into this what are Columbus' needs? Knowing that would give us a rough idea what they might be looking for from the Sabres roster.
According to the HNIC and Dregehr reports, Columbus is looking for a goalie - either a proven starter to replace Mason or an equal to push him.

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Well, look at what CBJ gave up for Carter:

1) Jakub Voracek: Former #7 pick in the 2007 draft, he averaged 45 pts in his first three seasons. He was 19, 20, and 21 in those seasons.

2) #8 pick in 2011 Draft: It turned into Couturier, but they had no way of knowing it at that time. Most Flyers fans were hoping to get Zibanejad or Dougie Hamilton at that pick.

3) #68 pick in 2011 Draft

So, what would we have to offer? On the one hand, Ennis is very comparable to Voracek both in terms of production and room for offensive growth. Also, Sekera is an established top-4 defenseman at this point, and he's signed to a reasonable deal, so it's possible that given Columbus's bevy of wingers, Sekera may hold more value to them than Ennis. Next, we won't have the #8 pick in this draft. More likely, we'll be in the 18-24 range. This, however, seems to be a far deeper draft. Finally, we could offer CGY's 2nd rounder (likely in the 38-42 range).
I think you have to look at the context of why the Flyers wanted to unload Carter in the first place before making comparisons to the package they got back: 1) they needed to free up cap space to afford Bryzgalov; and 2) they wanted to rework the culture of the team by dumping Carter and Richards. Most of the reports in the aftermath of those deals - especially the Carter one - questioned if Philly got enough for him. With their entire marketing plan going into the season focused on Nash + the two summer acquisitions of Carter/Wisniewski, I have a hard time envisioning the Bluejackets not asking for a franchise player in return for Carter.

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02-14-2012, 09:01 PM
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To Buffalo
Jeff Carter

To Columus
Joel Armia 2011 (1st round selection 16th overall)
Brad Boyes
M. Gragnani

Recover the high first they traded to get him also they dont deal with 10 years of carter

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02-14-2012, 09:09 PM
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To Buffalo
Jeff Carter

To Columus
Joel Armia 2011 (1st round selection 16th overall)
Brad Boyes
M. Gragnani

Recover the high first they traded to get him also they dont deal with 10 years of carter
No desire for Carter. End of story.

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02-14-2012, 09:13 PM
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To Buffalo
Jeff Carter

To Columus
Joel Armia 2011 (1st round selection 16th overall)
Brad Boyes
M. Gragnani

Recover the high first they traded to get him also they dont deal with 10 years of carter
Take this and run.

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02-14-2012, 09:18 PM
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To Buffalo
Jeff Carter

To Columus
Joel Armia 2011 (1st round selection 16th overall)
Brad Boyes
M. Gragnani

Recover the high first they traded to get him also they dont deal with 10 years of carter
... read this on necrobumping ... there's plenty of Carter discussion in the ongoing trade proposal thread.

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02-14-2012, 09:19 PM
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No desire for Carter. End of story.
I'm with you on this. No interest in Carter at all.

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02-14-2012, 09:20 PM
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... read this on necrobumping ... there's plenty of Carter discussion in the ongoing trade proposal thread.
And speaking from experience, leave these things up to the MOD's. Just sayin'

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To Buffalo
Jeff Carter

To Columus
Joel Armia 2011 (1st round selection 16th overall)
Brad Boyes
M. Gragnani

Recover the high first they traded to get him also they dont deal with 10 years of carter
Doubt cbus takes this, it's basically armia for carter, Boyes is a scrub that won't resign in colombis and Gragnani is freaking Gragnani

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Forget Jeff Carter. let him play somewhere else.

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Doubt cbus takes this, it's basically armia for carter, Boyes is a scrub that won't resign in colombis and Gragnani is freaking Gragnani
According to reports, the team did receive a "low" offer for Carter...who knows, maybe this was it

I said in a thread that I wasn't sold on Carter, and with a roster littered with bad contracts, adding one like Carter's could put us in cap hell.

I think Columbus will get rid of them and take a lower offer than expected....but I doubt this is it.

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02-15-2012, 08:00 PM
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I'm surprised so many people are for this. Carter isn't the kind of player this team needs.
Desperation will do that.

We badly need upgrades at center but talented centers are hard to come by. So when one is available you're willing to look past the blemishes.

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