I believe Tyravainen has a broken arm, plus he's been HSed in OKC so he may not be the best option. Hartikainen isn't a fighter but he plays a high energy game, he's who i'd call up.
Not sure Nelson would recommend him as the top call up option.
He was healthy scratched a bit ago. Then last night he had zero shots on net (one of only two forwards with no shots) in the game and from what I could hear on the radio broadcast did not touch the puck until the 3rd period and that was for a shoot in from center. The first time he touched the puck for more than a second was with 4 minutes left in the 3rd period.
Coach Nelson ripped some of his top guys after the game and I am pretty sure Harski was one of the top guys he was talking about that played with absolutely no intensity or energy. He said some of those couple guys are going to start getting their PP time taken away if they do not get their crap together.
Beside Moreau it were all salary dump for salary dump trades or buy outs.
Exactly the thing no team needs.
Yes because O'Sullivan for Vandermeer turned out so bad and Fraser for Smyth has been absolutely brutal. Nobody would ever want to put up with having Smyth over Fraser.
Yes because O'Sullivan for Vandermeer turned out so bad and Fraser for Smyth has been absolutely brutal. Nobody would ever want to put up with having Smyth over Fraser.
You seriously aren't crediting Tambo for that deal...are you?
You seriously aren't crediting Tambo for that deal...are you?
Actually, he wasn't, but I will. Initially, according to reports, it was Brule and a 5th, then it became Fraser and a 7th. He got rid of a more useless player and a less pick for this team's best forward. Credit, earned.
Just because Smyth wanted to come back just to Edmonton, doesn't mean Tambellini can't get credit for making a truly one sided deal for the franchise.
Actually, he wasn't, but I will. Initially, according to reports, it was Brule and a 5th, then it became Fraser and a 7th. He got rid of a more useless player and a less pick for this team's best forward. Credit, earned.
Just because Smyth wanted to come back just to Edmonton, doesn't mean Tambellini can't get credit for making a truly one sided deal for the franchise.
and how quick people forget Smytty is making $6 million.
and how quick people forget Smytty is making $6 million.
Top twenty in points league wide while playing most of the minutes against the oppositions best players and performs a key role on the PK unit. I'm pretty sure most teams would be glad to have the same performance for a $6 million cap hit, and that's not even taking into account the leadership role he is providing. The best part of the contract is that this is the last year so it's not likely to matter if his production dips a little down the stretch.
Top twenty in points league wide while playing most of the minutes against the oppositions best players and performs a key role on the PK unit. I'm pretty sure most teams would be glad to have the same performance for a $6 million cap hit, and that's not even taking into account the leadership role he is providing. The best part of the contract is that this is the last year so it's not likely to matter if his production dips a little down the stretch.
I didn't see this mentioned anywhere else, but it looks like Eager has also been having back issues. Maybe this could be partly why he hasn't been the Eager we expected him to be.
The words of Tom Renney after last night in regards to retaliation after the Hall hit:
“We’ll play hard ... I would have liked another body (Ben Eager) in the lineup to provide that for us, but couldn’t do that due to an injury (back),” said Renney. “What we are is a team that uses its speed, we compete hard and try to get in on people. Hordy (Darcy Hordichuk) is obviously prepared to do that at any time. But the bottom line was we were winning a hockey game and you have to be careful how you go about it. Not to suggest we won’t do it in the future.”
I didn't see this mentioned anywhere else, but it looks like Eager has also been having back issues. Maybe this could be partly why he hasn't been the Eager we expected him to be.
The words of Tom Renney after last night in regards to retaliation after the Hall hit:
“We’ll play hard ... I would have liked another body (Ben Eager) in the lineup to provide that for us, but couldn’t do that due to an injury (back),” said Renney. “What we are is a team that uses its speed, we compete hard and try to get in on people. Hordy (Darcy Hordichuk) is obviously prepared to do that at any time. But the bottom line was we were winning a hockey game and you have to be careful how you go about it. Not to suggest we won’t do it in the future.”
I said it before he is a guy that has to be fighting something. He just isn't himself. Problem is how bad is that back because it isn't the type of injury that heals that easily.
I said it before he is a guy that has to be fighting something. He just isn't himself. Problem is how bad is that back because it isn't the type of injury that heals that easily.
Well especially if he's in and out of the line-up. Take him out until he's 100% and put Petrell in or make a call to OKC.
Like a lot of others, I am disappointed. I was pumped when we signed him, a wrecking ball like Eager was supposed to make us feared. I don't know if its the concussion, some other injury, or if he just doesn't fit in here, but Ben Eager has been the worst Oiler this season, and I certainly didn't expect that. I hope he can turn it around.
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Andy Sutton taking the whole morning skate. He's going to be back soon, but I don't think tonight. Eager (back injury) left skate early.
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Andy Sutton taking the whole morning skate. He's going to be back soon, but I don't think tonight. Eager (back injury) left skate early.
I'm torn on seeing Sutton back. At this point the team is probably better off having him in the line-up, but Colt .45 has made me a fan.
Didn't we drool at the prospect of having a player that was a little "crazy", that would create havoc to the other team, sometimes make dirty hits to injure opponents so that they could get a taste of their own medicine that we've been force fed the past few years...
To use a recent example, remember how there were small stretches where a player like Moreau or Jacques would consistently, game after game, make huge huge hits? That is what I expected from Eager in the games he is dressed for.
Instead, we get a guy who's a little too smug from hearing from the media how he's not just a tough guy but someone who can actually play hockey, tries to do a little too much with the puck, and from my limited viewings, hasn't been consistent with making big hits. I haven't seen any Oiler make any big hits apart from Sutton in the game that lead to his suspension.
It's still early though. I hope he can prove me wrong. But his play, or lack thereof, is actually making me want to see Hordichuk return from his injury quicker. That way they can both fight for the same spot on the 4th line and maybe not take their spot for granted.
He's clearly hurt, but he does have the ability to both play a little bit and hit like a truck. A bit like Raffi Torres, except not as good.
The problem with Eager is that he is too crazy. I remember a couple years ago when he was with the Hawks and took like five penalties in the third period of a playoff game trying to injure Red Wings.
It's great to have a guy on your team who will cross the line every once and a while. It's a terrible thing to have a guy who takes a penalty, gets out the box and tries to elbow the **** out of a player away from the play for no reason five seconds later.
He's clearly hurt, but he does have the ability to both play a little bit and hit like a truck. A bit like Raffi Torres, except not as good.
The problem with Eager is that he is too crazy. I remember a couple years ago when he was with the Hawks and took like five penalties in the third period of a playoff game trying to injure Red Wings.
It's great to have a guy on your team who will cross the line every once and a while. It's a terrible thing to have a guy who takes a penalty, gets out the box and tries to elbow the **** out of a player away from the play for no reason five seconds later.
We'll I don't know how accurate that is, but if it is I'd say that it's probably the coaches fault and not Eagers. You keep sending a guy out there it means you are rewarding him for what he is doing, why would he stop if he keeps getting played after doing this?
We'll I don't know how accurate that is, but if it is I'd say that it's probably the coaches fault and not Eagers. You keep sending a guy out there it means you are rewarding him for what he is doing, why would he stop if he keeps getting played after doing this?
Exactly. Not if only we could get some context of this game. I'd also wager that the Blackhawks were down and not coming back as well.
We'll I don't know how accurate that is, but if it is I'd say that it's probably the coaches fault and not Eagers. You keep sending a guy out there it means you are rewarding him for what he is doing, why would he stop if he keeps getting played after doing this?
The thing was, he went to the box, and as soon as his penalty would expire he would take another one before he had to to go back to the bench. I distinctly remember him taking two in a row this way, there may have been more.
My point was that LA dumped this salary and we cannot look at what we gave up and how good we did. I love Smytty as much as anyone but it's not fair to say we fleeced Lombardi when LA did what they wanted to. Get rid of salary.
And sorry to say but anyone outside of Edmonton thinks $6 million is far too much for Smytty. Even after his decent start.
My point was that LA dumped this salary and we cannot look at what we gave up and how good we did. I love Smytty as much as anyone but it's not fair to say we fleeced Lombardi when LA did what they wanted to. Get rid of salary.
And sorry to say but anyone outside of Edmonton thinks $6 million is far too much for Smytty. Even after his decent start.
Who are thes people?
Lombardi has repeatedly said that he did not in any way want to get rid of Smyth.
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Sounds to me like management promised him a bigger role or a chance to play up in the line up - he's not getting that chance so maybe he's sulking?
He suffered a bad concussion in training camp and I bet he was burt else where because even after he was cleared from the concussion he still didnt play. Now they say he has reinjured his back. Looks like he was playing with a bad back since the hit that gave him a concussion.
