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11-19-2011, 08:20 PM
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Unofficial Trade Rumor/Proposal Thread Part XI: Just evaluating.

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This team needs Grigorenko. Two solid scoring lines could be built around duos of Hall, Grigorenko, RNH, Eberle. Hopefully we can follow Chicago's build and sign a top end forward(Hossa) and defenseman(Campbell), Parise and Suter would be the comparables for this seasons UFA crop.

We could pretty much trade an entire second line this year in Paajarvi-Gagner-Hemsky for an elite defenseman and still be solid up front if we can get in the top two territory for the draft.
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I think if Dumba is around when the Oilers draft, he is their pick. Fills a lot of needs. As terrible as they are, I see the team drafting 4,5,6,or 7 this year
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I would take that all day. I would suspect it is a little early for the Isles tastes to give up on him just yet. He has not been in the NHL as long as snow pants has. Also he did have one big injury last season. But he has not had not had a chronic injury history baggage as of yet that comes along with Gagner.




How did we manage to get by when he was playing on the wing for most of this season so far?
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Agreed, not only that but I think everyone on LI knows that this year is basically a write off for Okposo, and the key for him is just to get into flow of playing the game again and get back to the level of comfort he had before.

I'd still do that trade all day every day. And twice on Sundays.
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No we aren't.
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Just depends how big of a slide they go on and where they pick.

I'm sure guys like Ebert, Murray, and Dumba are all guys they would like, but I'll be curious to see where they have some of the D ranked in a combined list with all of the forwards.

I'm sure they will take their BPA, but not sure where guys like Grigorenko, Galchenyuk, and Forsberg will be relative to some of the top 6-7 d-men.
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There a question marks regarding if Dumba's game will translate to the NHL.

Dumba is anything but a sure thing.
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I like Dumba as much as the next guy, but I don't think he'd fit this team like a glove as some people have mentioned.

We need a defenseman that is going to move the puck up to our forwards. We need one that can make a breakout pass of variable feet. Visnovsky was a great defenseman, but he was more of a puck rusher rather than a puck mover.

Sign me up for Ryan Murray. He has both parts of that to his game. He can throw the puck up ice and he can gallop with the best of them.

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Murray is the first choice, but Dumba is a great consolation prize for any team that drafts him.

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I was thinking about Morgan Rielly, but Murray would be nice if we picking in that spot of the draft.

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Gagner to the Leafs heating up again, or is this just BS? http://www.torontosun.com/2011/11/18...s-trade-button

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Gagner to the Leafs heating up again, or is this just BS? http://www.torontosun.com/2011/11/18...s-trade-button
I would say it's BS, they mention Omark and we all know he's injured. My best guess is that someone listen to a couple of pod cast of BS on CHED and wrote this crap.

Chorney and Teubert didn't look the best against Chicago but they seem to get better as the game went on. In some cases Chorney look good, weather the storm and wait for Whitney.

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I would say it's BS, they mention Omark and we all know he's injured. My best guess is that someone listen to a couple of pod cast of BS on CHED and wrote this crap.

Chorney and Teubert didn't look the best against Chicago but they seem to get better as the game went on. In some cases Chorney look good, weather the storm and wait for Whitney.
how far away is whitney from a return??

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About the 2012 Draft, anyone else think that if we can snag another mid 1st round pick we might get Galcenychuk? I'm hoping he drops cause he's injured. Or even a guy like Morgan Reilly.

About the current defense, I say we pick up a guy like McCabe on the cheap so we have someone back there that's reliable. He's a better option than Chorney/Petry/Peckham right now.

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how far away is whitney from a return??
a week to 10 days

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About the 2012 Draft, anyone else think that if we can snag another mid 1st round pick we might get Galcenychuk? I'm hoping he drops cause he's injured. Or even a guy like Morgan Reilly.

About the current defense, I say we pick up a guy like McCabe on the cheap so we have someone back there that's reliable. He's a better option than Chorney/Petry/Peckham right now.
I don't believe McCabe is an option. I believe the rumor is that he doesn't want to play in the Western Conference.

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Gagner to the Leafs heating up again, or is this just BS? http://www.torontosun.com/2011/11/18...s-trade-button
I dunno. I mean, Gagner needs a change of scenery in the worst way.

I just don't see parts that would interest us.

Guys like Bozak and co. serve no interest for us, and realistically fill no hole.(well that would be available anyway)

I don't want to give Gagner away, if we trade him, I'd rather we get something of value in return.

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Chorney and Teubert didn't look the best against Chicago but they seem to get better as the game went on. In some cases Chorney look good, weather the storm and wait for Whitney.
I re-watched the 1st period of the 9-2 blowout and noticed Chorney pushed around by a half-dozen forwards. The Hawks could have scored 3-4 goals in the 1st alone with Chorney on the ice.

He's not an NHL D-man.

I'd take Matt Greene back from the Kings in an instant. He's overpaid, but almost worth his salary unlike Sutton + Foster + Barker.

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Chorney looked terrible yesterday. Every time the hawks had sustained pressure in our zone, you could see number 42 flailing and running around. He has no idea how to play defense at the NHL level. Even on the pp, his nerves got the better of him. I'm surprised every GM in the NHL just wants to keep the status quo and no one is trading anything, including spare parts. Seems stupid and unreasonable.

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Chorney looked terrible yesterday. Every time the hawks had sustained pressure in our zone, you could see number 42 flailing and running around. He has no idea how to play defense at the NHL level. Even on the pp, his nerves got the better of him. I'm surprised every GM in the NHL just wants to keep the status quo and no one is trading anything, including spare parts. Seems stupid and unreasonable.
Who was this #42 that you speak of?

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I was thinking about Morgan Rielly, but Murray would be nice if we picking in that spot of the draft.
yeah what we need are more players with pre existing knee injuries...

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Twitter says Strudwick is going to the SEL.

Guess he cant blog anymore

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Chorney looked terrible yesterday. Every time the hawks had sustained pressure in our zone, you could see number 42 flailing and running around. He has no idea how to play defense at the NHL level. Even on the pp, his nerves got the better of him. I'm surprised every GM in the NHL just wants to keep the status quo and no one is trading anything, including spare parts. Seems stupid and unreasonable.
well u cant have too many Dmen.. Tor is glad they didnt ship off Franson .. injuries are taking a toll on a lot of teams these days..
I am sure the Oilers are glad they signed Tulupov and claimedChorney.

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Twitter says Strudwick is going to the SEL.

Guess he cant blog anymore
Strudwick on the bigger ice =

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Who was this #42 that you speak of?
I didn't know O'marra was playing D last night.

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Any ideas on

Gagner + ???

For Leddy + McNeil

What do u think the ??? Would have to be?
2nd round pick? D Prospect?

If we could do that trade with gagner + 2nd or gagner + marincin/Klefbom I'd do it.... But would Chicago?

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Any ideas on

Gagner + ???

For Leddy + McNeil

What do u think the ??? Would have to be?
2nd round pick? D Prospect?

If we could do that trade with gagner + 2nd or gagner + marincin/Klefbom I'd do it.... But would Chicago?
they need to add quality D to their roster, not subtract

frankly at this point i dont think we could get mcneil for gagner

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no chance we get either of those 2 for Gagner.

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Chorney looked terrible yesterday. Every time the hawks had sustained pressure in our zone, you could see number 42 flailing and running around. He has no idea how to play defense at the NHL level. Even on the pp, his nerves got the better of him. I'm surprised every GM in the NHL just wants to keep the status quo and no one is trading anything, including spare parts. Seems stupid and unreasonable.
I thought he looked alright last night. Not all-star caliber by any means, but he was decent enough against a strong Hawks team.

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Any ideas on

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For Leddy + McNeil

What do u think the ??? Would have to be?
2nd round pick? D Prospect?

If we could do that trade with gagner + 2nd or gagner + marincin/Klefbom I'd do it.... But would Chicago?
Chicago would want our 1st at least.

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