How could you possibly want a young guy that has such a ridiculous sense of entitlement to actually hold out for money he has in no way earned in our locker room befriending our own young guys that sooner or later will need to be signed by the Oilers?
Gagner for Turris and David Schlemko. I would be happy with that. Both Gagner and Turris need a shakeup anyway.
Seriously? The Yotes probably wouldn't trade Turris straight up for Gagner nevermind adding a defenseman who has been playing very well for them.
Gagner's trade value has gone in the crapper IMO, we would be lucky to get a 2nd rounder for him at this point or at the very best, we would get an equally struggling young player back for him.
Seriously? The Yotes probably wouldn't trade Turris straight up for Gagner nevermind adding a defenseman who has been playing very well for them.
Gagner's trade value has gone in the crapper IMO, we would be lucky to get a 2nd rounder for him at this point or at the very best, we would get an equally struggling young player back for him.
Seriously? The Yotes probably wouldn't trade Turris straight up for Gagner nevermind adding a defenseman who has been playing very well for them.
Gagner's trade value has gone in the crapper IMO, we would be lucky to get a 2nd rounder for him at this point or at the very best, we would get an equally struggling young player back for him.
An equally struggling young player....hmm like Turris?
If Phoenix thinks they can get more than a Gagner or Bailey type swap they are kidding themselves.
How could you possibly want a young guy that has such a ridiculous sense of entitlement to actually hold out for money he has in no way earned in our locker room befriending our own young guys that sooner or later will need to be signed by the Oilers?
He wants out of Pheonix, cant say I blame him. It was never about money. Bet he gets dealt now, especially with such a low $$ contract.
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Originally Posted by Joe Hallenback
Did anyone watch the game last night?
Why the hell do we want a guy who weighs a dollar eighty soaking wet?
Get real people if anything the Oilers are going to move some of the guys we currently have and get bigger
To be fair Joe RNH weighs 175 soaking wet during the offseason. It matters more how strong a guy is on his skates.
I have not seen enough of Turris to know if he needs to wear snowpants like Sammy does.
He wants out of Pheonix, cant say I blame him. It was never about money. Bet he gets dealt now, especially with such a low $$ contract.
To be fair Joe RNH weighs 175 soaking wet during the offseason. It matters more how strong a guy is on his skates.
I have not seen enough of Turris to know if he needs to wear snowpants like Sammy does.
The point is we don't need him at all. He is not a difference maker and we have a group of very similar players. If anything we need to move a few guys and make room in the future for some of bigger developing guys in the AHL
Why the hell do we want a guy who weighs a dollar eighty soaking wet?
Get real people if anything the Oilers are going to move some of the guys we currently have and get bigger
I don't disagree that we need to get bigger, but it is a long way down the list of needs. More than anything, by far, Edmonton needs more NHL-capable d-men, and further yet, they need NHL dmen who can get the puck up the ice. There is no logical reason other than lack of back end support that edmonton's forwards can't win the puck possession game against half the teams in the league.
Detroit isn't a big team at all, even though they play in a big, tough division. They win lots because they almost always out-possess and as a result, outchance their opposition.
An equally struggling young player....hmm like Turris?
If Phoenix thinks they can get more than a Gagner or Bailey type swap they are kidding themselves.
I would say that Okposo is more in the realm of an equally struggling player. Turris hasn't played enough games to earn the title of struggling young player just yet plus he was starting to "get it" towards the end of last season and the playoffs so he seemed to be on a bit of an upward trend going into the offseason.
Also, i don't know why anybody would want to make the Gagner for Turris swap anyway, it doesn't solve any problems although i personally feel that Turris has more long term potential than Gagner. We just don't have a need for a Turris type player in the top 6.
I don't disagree that we need to get bigger, but it is a long way down the list of needs. More than anything, by far, Edmonton needs more NHL-capable d-men, and further yet, they need NHL dmen who can get the puck up the ice. There is no logical reason other than lack of back end support that edmonton's forwards can't win the puck possession game against half the teams in the league.
Detroit isn't a big team at all, even though they play in a big, tough division. They win lots because they almost always out-possess and as a result, outchance their opposition.
Detroit is a big team. Just because Datysuk or Zetterberg arnt big plaeyrs doesn't make Franzen,Holmstrom,Flippula or Bertuzzi small. They have a mixture of skill with guys who can battle in front or along the boards.
Most teams have that mixture. Both teams in the Stanley cup final had that mixture.
If you don't think the Oilers are headed there then look at this
This is a list of Oiler draft picks and size above playing the minors and the 2nd list is our current top 9 at some point you are going to start to see some of those smaller guys get moved out and some of those bigger minor league guys move in
I would say that Okposo is more in the realm of an equally struggling player. Turris hasn't played enough games to earn the title of struggling young player just yet plus he was starting to "get it" towards the end of last season and the playoffs so he seemed to be on a bit of an upward trend going into the offseason.
Also, i don't know why anybody would want to make the Gagner for Turris swap anyway, it doesn't solve any problems although i personally feel that Turris has more long term potential than Gagner. We just don't have a need for a Turris type player in the top 6.
How could you possibly want a young guy that has such a ridiculous sense of entitlement to actually hold out for money he has in no way earned in our locker room befriending our own young guys that sooner or later will need to be signed by the Oilers?
Just change 'young' to old in your statement and you have Horcoff!
We have guys that can shoot the puck in the top 6....RNH, Hall and Eberle all have above average shots, Gagner has actually been solid on faceoffs this year so i don't see Turris as a huge upgrade on him in that area.
My point is that we don't need another cream puff in the top 6, we need a player that will battle on the boards and get into the dirty areas while also providing strong defensive play, Turris does none of that.
