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11-19-2011, 11:11 PM
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Should have kept Zibanejad here.

9 games and gone was not what Zibanejad deserved. I still believe he should have stayed in Ottawa. I am making mention of this tonight because Hall has scored 2 tonight after 9 games without a goal. If a player of Taylor Hall can develop in the NHL and have long stretches without a goal in his young career, I don't see how it would have hurt Zibanejad. No, I'm not comparing the two players regarding skill.

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11-19-2011, 11:13 PM
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i think his situation would be closer to MPS on the oil which isnt great.

Zbad wouldn't have beaten out Dacosta and Regin just yet for that 2nd line c spot....just yet atleast

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Well now he's still having long stretches without a goal but in Sweden instead.

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9 games and gone was not what Zibanejad deserved. I still believe he should have stayed in Ottawa. I am making mention of this tonight because Hall has scored 2 tonight after 9 games without a goal. If a player of Taylor Hall can develop in the NHL and have long stretches without a goal in his young career, I don't see how it would have hurt Zibanejad. No, I'm not comparing the two players regarding skill.
What's wrong with sending Zibby back to Sweden for a year? He doesn't have the impact of a Hall, so I don't think we need him in the NHL this season. Besides, we have Regin and Da Costa to play at the 2C slot, Zibby had to outplay one or both to stay here. He didn't.

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11-19-2011, 11:28 PM
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Well now he's still having long stretches without a goal but in Sweden instead.
He's played 6 games and has 1 goal on a poor SEL team. Just feel that Zibanejad would get more experience here. I don't believe we can compare Zib and Pajarrvi. Pajarrvi wasn't as big as Zib at 18, nor did he have the defensive awareness. As MacLean said, he would have kept Zibanejad if it was up to him.

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11-19-2011, 11:33 PM
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This is nothing about Panic, I'm fine with Zib in the SEL. Just figure he would have learned more in the NHL than he will in the SEL.

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This is nothing about Panic, I'm fine with Zib in the SEL. Just figure he would have learned more in the NHL than he will in the SEL.
Then why doesn't every 1st rounder start on their team's opening roster?

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As MacLean said, he would have kept Zibanejad if it was up to him.
When did he say this?

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Not every team is in a rebuild, we are and so is Edmonton.

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This is nothing about Panic, I'm fine with Zib in the SEL. Just figure he would have learned more in the NHL than he will in the SEL.
Well then, he will get the chance to do that next year.

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When did he say this?
Go look at the Murray and MacLean interviews when they were going to send Zib to the SEL. MacLean wanted to keep him and Murray made the decision to send him home.

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11-19-2011, 11:43 PM
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Well then, he will get the chance to do that next year.
Definitely.

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Go look at the Murray and MacLean interviews when they were going to send Zib to the SEL. MacLean wanted to keep him and Murray made the decision to send him home.
It's probably because seeing Zibanejad in practice every day you could see he was one of the best raw talents on the ice. The day before they sent him back Zbad and Spezza rotated at center for the dying seconds and OT of a game.

They made the right choice. And in the end, look at our record since. I think people are gonna be surprised how much more comfortable he'll be infront of the camera and with the media. Zbad's a great kid and I think his upside is underrated around here, but you could see in the interviews he wasn't really comfortable.

Lot to ask a kid to go from Swedish junior to the NHL. It's never happened with any success.

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Go look at the Murray and MacLean interviews when they were going to send Zib to the SEL. MacLean wanted to keep him and Murray made the decision to send him home.
Could you be a bit more specific? I don't mean to question you, but I really don't think MacLean would publicly disagree with the GM.

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Could you be a bit more specific? I don't mean to question you, but I really don't think MacLean would publicly disagree with the GM.
Murray said something along the lines of "Paul was actually the hardest to convince".

And then Mac, made reference to it when asked a question later saying something like "Well you heard Bryan earlier, I had no issues with him staying".

Hell, when asked whether MacLean was giving Zibanejad that ice time in his last game just to send him off, Mac replied sternly, "I was trying to win the game".

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Murray said something along the lines of "Paul was actually the hardest to convince".

And then Mac, made reference to it when asked a question later saying something like "Well you heard Bryan earlier, I had no issues with him staying".

Hell, when asked whether MacLean was giving Zibanejad that ice time in his last game just to send him off, Mac replied sternly, "I was trying to win the game".
That makes sense, thank you.

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I was impressed with Z at camp and during pre-season, but he had no finish in the 9 NHL games I've seen him in. He probably could have stayed and got into a groove, but he's young and the majority would think he would benefit playing on the top line back in the SEL.

He will be back next year and will stick......whether that's being sent down to adjust to NA style hockey in the A, or giving a chunk of time in the NHL to develop.

I think we did what's best for his development...now whether he sucks in the SEL or would have done better in NA, that's just hindsight.

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Should have just drafted a guy that can score

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This is nothing about Panic, I'm fine with Zib in the SEL. Just figure he would have learned more in the NHL than he will in the SEL.
You may believe this, but Murray & Co know way more about developing players than you do. I'm going to trust their opinion

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11-20-2011, 09:40 AM
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People would've complained if we kept him here just as much, if not more, than now that we sent him back. Too bad the only opinion that matters is BM and Co. so I'm going with that one.

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People would've complained if we kept him here just as much, if not more, than now that we sent him back. Too bad the only opinion that matters is BM and Co. so I'm going with that one.
I was going to post something, but this covers pretty much exactly my opinion on the matter.

Cudos to you, sir, for successfully reading my mind.

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Revisit this thread next year.

Unless he burns up the league, you'll be saying "Why is he in the AHL. Zbad should have stayed in the NHL"

The near-NHL-ready numbers are even tighter next year. If the Sens want to buy time to evaluate more prospects they'll have to use the farm team for their ELC's to advantage or risk giving up on other players too early.

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Should have just drafted a guy that can score
Like who?

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People would've complained if we kept him here just as much, if not more, than now that we sent him back. Too bad the only opinion that matters is BM and Co. so I'm going with that one.
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I was going to post something, but this covers pretty much exactly my opinion on the matter.

Cudos to you, sir, for successfully reading my mind.
Double ditto.

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