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11-20-2011, 12:06 PM
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Weber

His defensive play as of lat has been good, and so is his passing.

But his one timer, which is supposed to be his best asset, has been HORRIBLE as of late! Specially last nights game. He had three perfect opportunities to let go of of canon and they were all weak shots. Even the last goal he scored was a very weak shot that somehow beat the goalie. I'm quite dissapointed with him so far, but than again he's young.
I definately don't want to trade him, but he needs to work on his one timer. He keep getting these nice passes and not converting

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He's tied for league lead of power play goals by a defenseman.

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11-20-2011, 12:16 PM
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A young guy with potential..

Trade him for a 36yr old veteran rental winger who is on his last legs so we can make a solid run at the cup!

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11-20-2011, 12:16 PM
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I find his defense borderline terrible, but he's needed for now.

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11-20-2011, 12:26 PM
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I find his defense borderline terrible, but he's needed for now.
He can grow into his role. I remember the last terrible defender but powerplay ace Swiss defenseman we had, Mark Streit. Carbonneau played him often as a forward. And he's turned out to be a great defenseman for the Islanders.

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11-20-2011, 12:27 PM
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I find his defense borderline terrible, but he's needed for now.
Wow really?!! I think Weber is just behind Gorges with Subban for 2nd/3rd best d-man performance thus far for us. He's steady, smart with the puck, uses his body well.

I'll go with the tired old chestnut....Do you even watch the games??

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11-20-2011, 12:31 PM
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better keep him because next year D-Corp is gonna look pretty much the same as we have right now.

Gill, Spacek and Campoli are injured and gonna be UFA next July...
And Markov might or might not be injured again...
Hopefully, Gorges will be re-signed.

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11-20-2011, 12:32 PM
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I find his defense borderline terrible, but he's needed for now.
I wouldn't describe his defensive game as borderline terrible, I think inconsistent is a better word to use. There seems to be no middle ground with Weber on the defensive side. He either he plays really well one game or just really off on another.

Overall, given the position he's been put in because of injuries, I can't complain and I'm actually shocked because I never thought he'd be a good nhler.

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11-20-2011, 12:38 PM
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His slap shot is fine. He doesn't miss the net often. I think he needs to wrist it more often. His defence... well, it's better than last year's for sure, but he's gotta be smarter in his zone. He looks faster and stronger this season. Throws his body well.

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11-20-2011, 12:45 PM
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I wouldn't describe his defensive game as borderline terrible, I think inconsistent is a better word to use. There seems to be no middle ground with Weber on the defensive side. He either he plays really well one game or just really off on another.
that's usually a sign of youth and inexperience. in time, he'll get better, this is his first full NHL year.

after as his one-timer goes, it's usually very accurate (as opposed to subby's). one night of missing the net does not negate the other games where he didn't.

either way, i think the habs would be stupid to trade weber

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11-20-2011, 01:21 PM
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Last year he had a full year of wasted development as far as his defensive game is concerned. The genious coach and GM though it was a great idea to play the guy as a forward. Then, he's put back on defense and people think his defensive game isn't good enough. It was a true stroke of genious to take away a crucial year of development

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11-20-2011, 01:26 PM
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Wow really?!! I think Weber is just behind Gorges with Subban for 2nd/3rd best d-man performance thus far for us. He's steady, smart with the puck, uses his body well.

I'll go with the tired old chestnut....Do you even watch the games??
I've gotta ask if you really watch the games. Sound defense is not Weber's strong point. He's a decent enough player, but he's pretty bad in his own end.

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11-20-2011, 01:52 PM
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11-20-2011, 01:56 PM
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As long as he's better than good old Brisebois.

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Hope he fixes is one timer soon. I remember one of his goal this year who was an absolute rocket!

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11-20-2011, 02:25 PM
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He's tied for league lead of power play goals by a defenseman.
If Markov was healthy, he'd probably have double the goals.

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11-20-2011, 02:27 PM
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11-20-2011, 02:28 PM
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Am I the only one who thinks Weber has potential to be good defensively? He's inconsistent but so is every defender not named Gorges right now. There are moments when he's awful, but there's also moments where he's the best defender out there. His quick thinking saved a goal yesterday. He's smart and has become a lot more physical this year.

When you consider how long it took Streit to be good in his own end, I would say Weber is impressive.

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11-20-2011, 02:34 PM
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He's growing on me. He's earned his spot on a full healthy line-up, either as a d-man or as a 4th man winger and PP specialist.

Agreed with others who said he's very inconsistent defensively. Since he's still young he might fix that.

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11-20-2011, 02:34 PM
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My worry about Weber the last year or even two has actually been that his offensive touch had disappeared. I don't think he'll ever be good enough defensively to be an impact player in the NHL without also bringing at least 2nd-unit PP-level offense. The last ten games or so, he really seems to have rediscovered his offensive confidence. He has enormous upside in this area (ie. he can hit the net more than he has been doing, and can score from the blue line as well as the hash marks, where he's been generating most of his recent offense) Frankly I think Weber, Diaz and Emelin are all incredibly promising young D. If we had veteran depth and/or size (I'm calling youououououou Ryan Mcdonagh), we'd be more excited about these three guys than we can afford to be now. The team's trouble is often that we don't have studs to play these guys with, so they're exposed all the time. It's tough to create slots for all three of them at the same time, given the rest of our D roster.

Still, it's an impressive group of young d. Diaz is a find. Not a stud, but a legit player I think, obtained for nothing.The team has handled Weber's development pretty well, notwithstanding his 4th line winger duties. I hope they can keep Emelin in the mix maybe more than anything.

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11-20-2011, 02:39 PM
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Everyone just jumps on any bandwagon that comes along. So, yea, maybe last night his shots were brutal, but the kid, who hasnt even played 100 games yet, has 3 PPG. Thats on pace for about 12 goals for the year. That is really good for a young defenseman. I am not trying to hype him up like crazy now but he certainly has been a bright spot for us this year.

Not only that, but he is much better defensively that he used to be.


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11-20-2011, 02:46 PM
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His shot is still good. Powerful.

my view is that he became under pressure ... yesterday the Rangers, were focusing on not letting him shoot. So he had little time ...

To complete the explanation of my view, is that this year, and so far, he become more important in the PP, all noticed this including adverse teams, therefore he is being watched out, has less time for his slaps and loses precision. On the other side, it creates an imbalance in the adversary's box play resulting into opportunities for the Canadians on another side.

I do not see him that weak in his own end ! not always perfect, like the team in general ... but not as horrible as described by some extermists

He has a good contribution in the transition game, with a very decent pass. (IE : yesterday's assist !)

my 5ct view.

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11-20-2011, 02:57 PM
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I'd rather he hit the net and score which he's been doing than have a powerful shot and miss the net half the time. Kid is fine the way he is. Once he's "officially" part of the top 6, his role will be more defined and easier to mold as well.

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11-20-2011, 03:01 PM
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Last year he had a full year of wasted development as far as his defensive game is concerned. The genious coach and GM though it was a great idea to play the guy as a forward. Then, he's put back on defense and people think his defensive game isn't good enough. It was a true stroke of genious to take away a crucial year of development
Yeah - silly coach - it is like he prioritizes winning over making young rookies feel good and cozy. What does he think his job is? When I watch a game, I personally don't care whether the Habs win or lose, I only ask myself "are our young players feeling comfortable and in an environment where they feel safe?" Isn't that how all Habs fans feel?

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Our most consistent defenseman behind Gorges this year. He's been great.

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