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C Radek Faksa - Sudbury Wolves, OHL (2012, 13th overall, Dallas)

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04-24-2012, 11:25 AM
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Would be great fit to Ducks. 2nd line big center, playing with Ryan in the future.

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04-24-2012, 12:35 PM
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I can see the leafs taking him at 5th overall

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I can see the leafs taking him at 5th overall
There will be numerous highly ranked players still on the board at #5. I don't see Toronto making taking the chance and reaching for Faksa.

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04-24-2012, 01:01 PM
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There will be numerous highly ranked players still on the board at #5. I don't see Toronto making taking the chance and reaching for Faksa.
Everyone's list is different. Leafs might not think he's a reach at 5.

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04-24-2012, 01:28 PM
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I don't remember the last time the Czechs produced a superstar or even an allstar player. Wouldn't risk it at 5. Frolik was supposed to be potential 1st liner now he sits in the press box when healthy in the playoffs. Best has been Voracek who is only 40-50 pt player, where a player drafted in his position should be 60-80 pt player. He is still young but still.

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I don't remember the last time the Czechs produced a superstar or even an allstar player. Wouldn't risk it at 5. Frolik was supposed to be potential 1st liner now he sits in the press box when healthy in the playoffs. Best has been Voracek who is only 40-50 pt player, where a player drafted in his position should be 60-80 pt player. He is still young but still.
Prior to Kopitar being drafted, I don't think Slovenia had ever produced an allstar NHL player. Your logic is not a good way to determine whether or not to draft a given individual.

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04-24-2012, 03:01 PM
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Carolina is a perfect fit since they draft Kitchener Rangers guys(and oh yeah they also could use forwards more then defense)

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04-24-2012, 04:46 PM
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Prior to Kopitar being drafted, I don't think Slovenia had ever produced an allstar NHL player. Your logic is not a good way to determine whether or not to draft a given individual.
Kopitar is a one in a million player from Slovenia, best player from that country but he was developed in Sweden. Rare exception to the norm as Slovenia rarely produces NHL talent.

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04-25-2012, 06:00 AM
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Kopitar is a one in a million player from Slovenia, best player from that country but he was developed in Sweden. Rare exception to the norm as Slovenia rarely produces NHL talent.
Kopitar came to Sweden just before his draft year (04/05 season).

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04-25-2012, 06:35 AM
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There will be numerous highly ranked players still on the board at #5. I don't see Toronto making taking the chance and reaching for Faksa.
Man I'd say every player after 1 to maybe about 15 is in a similar talent region, all with atleast some question marks. I can easily see teams taking Faksa/Teravainen/Maata etc higher than people think, the talent gap in this area is not large at all again relative to question marks

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04-25-2012, 07:52 AM
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Kopitar came to Sweden just before his draft year (04/05 season).
It was still an important years in his development to come over to a strong league like the SEL. But yes he was an exceptional rare talent from that country. Anyways, player development in the Czech isn't what it used to be, I don't doubt at all his potential to get to the NHL I just don't think he will be a high impact player. Maybe he can prove me wrong.

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04-25-2012, 10:50 AM
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I don't remember the last time the Czechs produced a superstar or even an allstar player. Wouldn't risk it at 5. Frolik was supposed to be potential 1st liner now he sits in the press box when healthy in the playoffs. Best has been Voracek who is only 40-50 pt player, where a player drafted in his position should be 60-80 pt player. He is still young but still.
Krejci and Fleishmann are pretty good.

Kind of ridiculous to write off a whole nationality as well. Judge players individually.

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04-25-2012, 11:51 AM
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I think Faksa would be a great fit in Carolina. I could see them going for him at #8.

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04-25-2012, 01:28 PM
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I don't remember the last time the Czechs produced a superstar or even an allstar player. Wouldn't risk it at 5. Frolik was supposed to be potential 1st liner now he sits in the press box when healthy in the playoffs. Best has been Voracek who is only 40-50 pt player, where a player drafted in his position should be 60-80 pt player. He is still young but still.

Milan Michalek panned out (35 goals this year). I wouldn't write the Czech Republic off but i do question Czech prospects playing in the Extraliga.

Radek Faksa seems safe but i wouldnt draft him at 5. Perhaps 9-15.

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IMO, Carolina will take either him or Teravainen at #8.

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04-25-2012, 05:51 PM
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Krejci and Fleishmann are pretty good.

Kind of ridiculous to write off a whole nationality as well. Judge players individually.
I'm not writing them off I'm saying based on their player development model which has just recently been adjusted to give players more games and international experiance they just havn't been producing many IMPACT NHL players. Even when you look at the past decade much worse the past 5 years. But the fact that the last players you named to make an impact came from 2004 draft and the other one who just recently had a breakout season at 28 ads to my point. Simply comes down to development same could have been said about the Swedes and Finns a few years ago. Sure Tukonen, Nokelainen, and Korpikoski looked great in their draft years as future stars, but I think developmental trends have to factor in somewhat. 5 is simply too high.

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04-25-2012, 06:00 PM
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IMO, Carolina will take either him or Teravainen at #8.
I think you're bang on.

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04-25-2012, 06:02 PM
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I don't remember the last time the Czechs produced a superstar or even an allstar player. Wouldn't risk it at 5. Frolik was supposed to be potential 1st liner now he sits in the press box when healthy in the playoffs. Best has been Voracek who is only 40-50 pt player, where a player drafted in his position should be 60-80 pt player. He is still young but still.
Voráček has been very good and is underrated. How many players drafted in 2007 have scored more NHL points than him so far? Kane, Gagner... anyone else?

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04-26-2012, 08:52 AM
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I'm not writing them off I'm saying based on their player development model which has just recently been adjusted to give players more games and international experiance they just havn't been producing many IMPACT NHL players. Even when you look at the past decade much worse the past 5 years. But the fact that the last players you named to make an impact came from 2004 draft and the other one who just recently had a breakout season at 28 ads to my point. Simply comes down to development same could have been said about the Swedes and Finns a few years ago. Sure Tukonen, Nokelainen, and Korpikoski looked great in their draft years as future stars, but I think developmental trends have to factor in somewhat. 5 is simply too high.
You're right here of course. I also don't expect Faksa to go 5th, I was just pointing out that Kopitar was not really developed in Sweden despite of the fact that pre-draft year in Sweden was definitely great for him.

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04-26-2012, 09:09 AM
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Carolina is a perfect fit since they draft Kitchener Rangers guys(and oh yeah they also could use forwards more then defense)
This.

I think that's where he'll go. Although it seems like this draft is a lot more wide open after #1 than usual.

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04-26-2012, 11:08 PM
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where was this guy in the playoffs? yuck! people talk about grigorenko's disappearing act! this guy was a dog.

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04-27-2012, 05:50 AM
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where was this guy in the playoffs? yuck! people talk about grigorenko's disappearing act! this guy was a dog.
Spott was on local radio talking about some of the players who were playing at less than 100%. It seems that Faksa was hit with a bunch of issues. He had a bad wrist, was sick and had another injury that Spott did not specify. All of this seems to be in addition to the concussion he suffered earlier in the playoffs.

I am not sure the duration of any of these issues but it seems clear that Spott felt he was far from 100%.

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With the WJC Flu, one might wonder is it just bad luck… or does he just fail to show up when the stakes are high

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With the WJC Flu, one might wonder is it just bad luck… or does he just fail to show up when the stakes are high
If you look at the scoring in the playoffs for the Rangers it is pretty clear that they were a one line team. When Faksa played briefly with Rieder he generated points. But outside of Catenacci, Rieder and Murphy the rest of the team was a blackhole offensively.

Faksa's line played fine in the games I watched. They did not generate a lot of scoring, but they helped contribute to the wins. And Ming was also hurt. Basically you had a beat up team that went way farther than anyone expected.

Honestly I have no idea how Faksa's offensive game will translate to the NHL. But the kid can play. Next year he is probably centering a line with Rieder and Ben Thomson. If Murphy is back I bet he puts up big numbers.

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I hope Toronto takes him at 5 or trades down to 7 or 8 to do so. He's a big center who has improved dramatically over this season. I'd love to see what he can do with another year in the OHL. He'll be dominant and I think he has a chance to play in the NHL the following season.

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