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11-24-2011, 04:59 PM
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Who cares ho old he is...A rookie is a rookie....as in never played in the league before. Stop dwelling on that!

That said, RNH is far and away the best rookie so far.

But I bet he gets 5 times as many hits to his article if he goes against the grain.

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11-24-2011, 05:03 PM
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I have more of an issue with the Vezina. How is Kari Lehtonen in there? Sure, its nice to see Boulin get some recognition, but at this point Kari Lehtonen has been the best goalie in the NHL this year, Thomas isn't even close (he will be soon if the B's keep up their streak). Lehtonen-Thomas-Khabiboulin so far.

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11-24-2011, 05:04 PM
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The 26-year age limit is likely put there for defencemen and especially goalies. Still, I do think it should be lowered.

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Hopkins scores more points playing on a much weaker all-around team.... I'm confused... what is that idiot Cullen smoking again?

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11-24-2011, 05:08 PM
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Cullen hates the Oilers and Oiler fans. Nothing to see here.

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11-24-2011, 05:08 PM
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Not surprised this garbage was written by Scott Cullen. The guy is a complete idiot.

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11-24-2011, 05:10 PM
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Who cares ho old he is...A rookie is a rookie....as in never played in the league before. Stop dwelling on that!

That said, RNH is far and away the best rookie so far.

But I bet he gets 5 times as many hits to his article if he goes against the grain.
Again.

There is a difference in the maturity of an 18 as compared to a 25 year old, to just pretend like that doesn't exist, does a disservice to the younger players.

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11-24-2011, 05:21 PM
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Brutal by Scott Cullen





Ryan Nugent Hopkins is going to be the calder winner,and not that damn fossil Matt Read.

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11-24-2011, 05:41 PM
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He doesn't believe what he is writing, he just wants angry Oiler fans to drive up his hits. Mission accomplished Cullen.

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Is it ignorant of me to not have heard much of Read until this?

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11-24-2011, 05:55 PM
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If RNH was a Leaf, They would have a statue of him made already and he would
have a key to the city. We would also have RNH coverage that would rival or tople
the following of Sidney Crosby and when he was returning from his injury.

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11-24-2011, 05:57 PM
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Is it ignorant of me to not have heard much of Read until this?
Yes. He's been playing superb hockey this year.

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11-24-2011, 06:03 PM
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Who would you rather have on your team Scott Cullen? RNH or Matt Read?

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11-24-2011, 06:05 PM
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Again, this proves TSN and it's lovefest for the Leafs. IMO, the Hart Trophy winner should be Claude Giroux, his importance to the Flyers is more significant IMO. I also think Khabibulin should get some recognition for a Hart candidate, but in typical Eastern bias fashion, he's left out of party.

You had me until you mentioned Khabby and Hart consideration. Did you mean heart condition?

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Every time you click that link, a troll gets it's wings.

And Cullen gets a paycheque.

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11-24-2011, 06:16 PM
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Yea it's always like that..as an Oilers fan living in Toronto, Torontonians posses this "holier than thou" mentality where everything is centred around them, hence the term "centre of the universe". I've been given dirty looks for calling myself an Albertan.

The media itself also look down upon everything "western canada" and belittle us. THis is further exposed in sports where the Oilers are hardly given any credit. It seems they purposely try to make the rest of Canada look bad to cover up the mishaps of the Leafs.
LOL get a hold of yourself.
One TSN doofus picked Read over RNH. The other three all took RNH. So how does that figure into your witchhunt? If they're all so Toronto-centric at TSN, they'd be picking Jake Gardiner for Calder.
You're the epitome of an inferiority complex

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11-24-2011, 06:20 PM
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*shrug*

Cullen has is opinion. RNH has 60 more games to make him regret picking Read in that column.

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11-24-2011, 06:24 PM
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Per ESPN:

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Trophy Tracker: Latest Calder candidates

By Scott Burnside

There’s been a lot of see-sawing through the first quarter of the NHL season when it comes to the top rookies in the NHL and there are lots of exciting first-year players making significant impacts throughout the league. Don’t doubt there will continue to be ebb and flow as that’s the nature of rookie play, but here’s a look at our top five rookies and some honorable mentions.

1. Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, Edmonton Oilers

Really didn’t have much trouble assigning the first overall pick in June’s draft with the top spot in our Trophy Tracker, given the tear Nugent-Hopkins has been on. With eight points in his past three games, Nugent-Hopkins has opened up a seven-point lead over Craig Smith of the Nashville Predators with 22 points in 21 games. Pretty impressive for the 18-year-old phenom.

Nugent-Hopkins is in a unique position in that the Oilers continue to lean heavily on their cadre of young players as opposed to having their youngsters learn the ropes while veterans do the bulk of the heavy lifting. When it looked like the Oilers had hit a significant wall during a recent road trip, it was the kids and especially Nugent-Hopkins, who answered the bell, and that bodes well for an Oilers team that continues to enjoy an unexpected place in the middle of the Western Conference playoff mix.

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*shrug*

Cullen has is opinion. RNH has 60 more games to make him regret picking Read in that column.
If he didn't have a track record of overwhelming bias against the Oilers I'd dismiss it as that.

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That's full retard.

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Desperate attempt to drive traffic to the site he works for.

With postings like this, the Weekly World News has more credibility. They should do a story on the fall of The Hockey News, a great resource for many years. Might be a lesson in there....

Don't feed the trolls - don't visit the site.

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I'm not saying it's that close, but people are talking like Read shouldn't even be in the conversation.

He's putting up 3.07 Points/60, which leads the Flyers, compared to RNH's 2.41.

Read also plays close to 3 minutes of PK per night.

I'm not lobbying for Read. I think RNH is definitely in the lead right now, but I don't think it's outrageous for a small minority(probably east coasters who watch Philly more than us) to like Read more.
There are two problems with this statistical argument. First it ignores the fact that RNH is far more effective on the pp than is Read. This means something.

Moreover, using points per 60 is can really distort things when the number of games a player has played is low and especially if the player does not play that many minutes. If Read had one less even strength point his pt/60 would be 2.69. Two less and he would be below the Nuge.

I just don't see this using this stat adds much to the discussion.

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So I tweeted at Cullen pointing out just how stupid he's being, and he disagrees that RNH is facing tougher competition. Hi-****ing-larious. RNH plays on the first line, Read on the 3rd. I'm sure Read is drawing all the big defensive matchups.

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Scott Cullen is a straight up hater and an idiot. Do your job, man.

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Who the F is Scott Cullen?

Some Eastern based hack whos bedtime is before most Oilers games even start.

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