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11-25-2011, 05:05 PM
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Top 5 Surprises at the 1/4 mark

Now the NHL average for games played is at the quarter mark of the season I thought it would be interesting to hear everyones surprises so far. (using the offseason as the watermark)

I'll go first.

1) Matt Read. I was one the guys penciling him as a POTENTIAL to take a top 13 spot but at no point previous to training camp did I expect this out of him. He's been a great surprise, and I really like how he came in with no Testwuide type hype.

2) Carle. I did not expect him to blow nearly as much as he has. I'll leave it at that.

3) Harry Z. I was expecting Read to make the team, and actually thought Rinaldo had a good chance as well, but Harry Z I was certainly not expecting. I really like his speed and was surprised how many points he was putting up when he was with the Phantoms.

4)Lilja. I thought the dumpers were just being too hard on him before he got here, but wow does he suck. It's pretty bad when no matter who gets called up we are all hoping they stay instead of him. His play reminds me not so fondly of Modry.

5) Couts. I thought he'd be sent down for sure. Little did I know how skilled he is defensively. I knew from his interviews he prided himself on his defensive game, but it wasn't until Lavvy said "why wouldn't I play him? He's our best defensive forward" that it really hit me how good of a 2 way guy he was going to be.

Honorable mentions for me go to Talbot, Rinaldo, Roe, Akeson, and as of today Bourdon for the pluses and Bryz, Pronger, JVR, Brown, Ranford and Pither for the negatives.

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Scott Hartnell's play has been excellent ! Many wanted him run out of town ? He is having the best year of his career thus far, not sure many saw that coming earlier ?

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1. Read
2. Couturier
3. Talbot
4. The solid play of the call-ups (offense and defense)
5. Inconsistency, disinterest from Bryz

1-3 I had fairly high expectations for before the season started, and they've exceeded them all.

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11-25-2011, 05:23 PM
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1. Read
2. Couturier
3. Talbot
4. The solid play of the call-ups (offense and defense)
5. Inconsistency, disinterest from Bryz

1-3 I had fairly high expectations for before the season started, and they've exceeded them all.
This exactly

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1. Read
2. Talbot
3. I thought Cooter would be down and Schenn would be up.
4. Bryz is uh.. concerning.
5. How well the youth movement is doing

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Read and Courturier for me as well. I'll add Bryz, too. I expected him to be better.

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1. Read
2. Bryz....thought he would put our goalie questions to rest
3. Talbot, I dont even remember what he looked like in a Penguins Uniform. Love the guy
4. Hartnell... beastin
5. Pronger. Amazing he has been able to come back from his back injury which was a nerve condition.

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Scott Hartnell's play has been excellent ! Many wanted him run out of town ? He is having the best year of his career thus far, not sure many saw that coming earlier ?
Hartnell has been a surprise. Seems to be playing his role much more consistently. He also seems more serious...maybe he has less distractions outside of hockey...

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Hartnell has been a surprise. Seems to be playing his role much more consistently. He also seems more serious...maybe he has less distractions outside of hockey...
I agree ! Perhaps his finding out everything was OK after his " Heart" scare, he got a nice mental lift which can never hurt one's confidence etc...He seems to be very focused !

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11-25-2011, 07:20 PM
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Pleasant
1. Read.
2. Couturier

Unpleasant
1. Schenn
2. Bryzgalov
3. Shelley is still on the team

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Read
Couturier
Bourdon
Balanced attack
Rinaldo


Goaltending at times
Simmonds tapering off
Lilja
Meszaros has been disappointing as has Carle


Schenn being just as overrated as others have said. I thought they were exaggerating. Apparently not.

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Unpleasant
1. Schenn
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Schenn being just as overrated as others have said. I thought they were exaggerating. Apparently not.
Christ....

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chemistry between Giroux and Jagr (didnt think it would ever be this good)

how bad our defence has been thought we would be a better defensive team considering our payroll

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Ooops. I only listed three.

My other two: Talbot and Rinaldo.

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I was concerned how Bryz's personality, especially given the contract and expectations, would mesh with this city and the media... so far he's done nothing to dispel that, only prove that my apprehensiveness was valid and warranted.

As far as surprises go... Read and Couturier, for sure. Talbot's impact. Rinaldo's the ****ing man. I'm also really happy with what I'm seeing from Voracek.

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Christ....
I think my expectations for him were too high as everyone predicted a 50 point campaign. With his injuries and poor start in his few NHL games thus far color me disappointed.

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Unpleasant
1. Schenn
Yeah, I'm pretty disappointed about Lappy too.

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I think my expectations for him were too high as everyone predicted a 50 point campaign. With his injuries and poor start in his few NHL games thus far color me disappointed.
Tough to score 50 pts when you're hurt. He played quite well when he was in the lineup. But because he wasn't lighting up the scoreboard...he's a bust already.

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5. Carle
4. Lilja
3. Carle
2. Lilja
1. Carle


5. Voracek
4. Rinaldo
3. Couturier
2. Talbot
1. Read

and NHL.com writing an article today about how Giroux is the front runner for leauge MVP, I was reading it like wow must be the porn stache!!!

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Tough to score 50 pts when you're hurt. He played quite well when he was in the lineup. But because he wasn't lighting up the scoreboard...he's a bust already.
No no because he was a minus 5

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1. Read
2. Talbot
3. Couturier
4. Jagr
5. Gustaffson

Giroux isnīt a suprise!!

He will be a MVP candidate for years to come

book it!

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11-25-2011, 09:31 PM
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I guess I can not be upset about Schenn.

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5. Carle
4. Lilja
3. Carle
2. Lilja
1. Carle


5. Voracek
4. Rinaldo
3. Couturier
2. Talbot
1. Read

and NHL.com writing an article today about how Giroux is the front runner for leauge MVP, I was reading it like wow must be the porn stache!!!
This would be my exact list

And anyone who is saying Schenn is over-rated is crazy. He has played a few games and looked good during them. Can't do anything about injuries and such.

I went to the game against the Caps when we were handled and Schenn was all over the ice from my look at where I was. He is physical and usually in good position on the d side of the game.

Let's give the 20 year old a little more time before we start writing him off

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i dont understand the inclusion of schenn in the disappointment categories, guys.

the kid has played only a few games with a new organization at the nhl level and had an unfortunate injury that set him back significantly. meanwhile, he absolutely dominated the ahl before being called up, and added another 2 points in his game yesterday. yes, i too thought he would have made a bigger impact by now, but we're unfairly using couturier as a measuring stick. different things are expected from different players, just like different players handle things and progress in different manners.

how about we actually let him get his skates on before we start calling him overrated and disappointing

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Schenn being just as overrated as others have said. I thought they were exaggerating. Apparently not.
Really? Being injured makes you overrated?

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I guess I can not be upset about Schenn.
Upset about him being hurt? Sure. Saying he's overrated because he broke his foot? Well yea, you can think it, but it's an absurd thought.

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