Anyways, there are eight guys on their list that they really like. The eight are: Brendan Gaunce (they'll have to trade up), Matt Finn (another one they would need to trade up for), Jordan Schmaltz, Brady Skjei, Daniil Zharkov, Tanner Pearson (really surprised about this), Tom Wilson and Ludvig Bystrom.
Do you happen to know a general order of how these players are ranked in the scouts eyes? I would hope they have Schmaltz and Skjei ahead of players like Pearson and Wilson due to the big hole in the prospect pool for dmen. I would love for the Flyers to make a trade to acquire another 1st or high 2nd to get two of these guys.
Well, they can't trade up, so they're going to have to be content making a list of X-amount of players and when their pick comes up at ~20-24 and taking the guy that's at the top.
I think there is some debate on how deep the draft is.
Its all over the place. Some say it's weak, others it's strong. Some say just the top 15 will be strong, others the first round, and others 1st and 2nd. Bob M, said that it was a weak one and 1sts would be traded at the draft, but only what one or two firsts were traded? I think most players in the first round will be good. I personally think we will be picking mid-late teens, so we would be in the Ceci/Maata/Aberg/Hertl/Collberg area.
I havent really thought about who I want the Flyers to draft yet. But I think we all can agree they need to start drafting defenseman with these high picks. I know our history isnt that great in drafting and developing defenseman but we need to start drafting and showing some patience with defenseman.
I havent really thought about who I want the Flyers to draft yet. But I think we all can agree they need to start drafting defenseman with these high picks. I know our history isnt that great in drafting and developing defenseman but we need to start drafting and showing some patience with defenseman.
I do also, but if the Flyers pick someone like Tomas Hertl, I will be happy. Hertl is possibly the most underrated player in the top 30. Came out of nowhere and continues to skyrocket up the rankings.
Here is a post someone made on him in the Hertl thread.
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Putting up big numbers on a mediocre team in the top men's Czech league. I'm always surprised to him ranked lower than Faksa. I'm always surprised to see him ranked below 20th. I'm guessing in five years there will be a thread started to ask why he was a top ten pick. I mean he seems to have that rare mix of absolutely everything. His skill upside is obvious. He demonstrated great puck protection, patience, vision and passing ability. He showed he's no slouch when firing the biscuit either. You can tell just by looking at him that he's going to be a big, strong man very soon. Not in the way Guillame Latendresse was, though. Not just a freak who was way, way too physically mature for his age and was able to man handle junior age players. Hertl looks like he's going to be a physical force, not that he is one now. Though he does seem to like hunting for the big hit. Add to all of that he's already proving himself against men, and he's excelling. Just like he excelled against the elite players in the world his age. Where guys like Faksa looked overwhelmed and failed to impress, Hertl shined brightly.
Its all over the place. Some say it's weak, others it's strong. Some say just the top 15 will be strong, others the first round, and others 1st and 2nd. Bob M, said that it was a weak one and 1sts would be traded at the draft, but only what one or two firsts were traded? I think most players in the first round will be good. I personally think we will be picking mid-late teens, so we would be in the Ceci/Maata/Aberg/Hertl/Collberg area.
Based on the latest ranking of MacKenzie it looks like a weak Draft, there are many defensemen but they all have a "low" ceiling (2nd/3rd pairing). I hope Skjei is still available when we draft, seems like a Coburn clone.
Based on the latest ranking of MacKenzie it looks like a weak Draft, there are many defensemen but they all have a "low" ceiling (2nd/3rd pairing). I hope Skjei is still available when we draft, seems like a Coburn clone.
Well I guess it's where we would be drafting. In the mid-late 20s, ya, I can agree with that. But if we are around 18 or so, I think Maata/Ceci/Skjei(who some have around there) could be top pairing guys if played out right. An example is Ceci who many scouts have said could be NHL ready. He is one of the mature, if not the maturest player in the draft. Ceci's only downside is that he isnt too physical. He would probably be top 10 or 5 if he was. That being said, he needs about one more year in the OHL to be ready. Ceci would be a great pickup if there.
Well I guess it's where we would be drafting. In the mid-late 20s, ya, I can agree with that. But if we are around 18 or so, I think Maata/Ceci/Skjei(who some have around there) could be top pairing guys if played out right. An example is Ceci who many scouts have said could be NHL ready. He is one of the mature, if not the maturest player in the draft. Ceci's only downside is that he isnt too physical. He would probably be top 10 or 5 if he was. That being said, he needs about one more year in the OHL to be ready. Ceci would be a great pickup if there.
I doubt Ceci will be around when the Flyers pick. He's probably the best defenseman in the OHL right now (apologies to Matt Finn). I've heard from some scouts that he might even go as high as 5th due to his overall game. Scouts REALLY love this guy.
This is a really good draft year. I know some have said it's weak, but it's a great draft in terms of depth and finding role players/secondary scores and defensemen. There isn't a "franchise" player per se, but there are two sure fire top line players in Grigorenko and Yakupov. And honestly, as much as Yakupov is getting all the hype, I'd say that Grigorenko is the much more complete player of the two. It's like Hall and Seguin all over again.
Cool, thanks. Yeah that's what I figured, but just wanted to make sure. A guy I really like is Teuvo Teravainen, but I don't think he'll be available when the Flyers are on the clock (nor do I necessarily think he's what they want, being a small winger). Super young, if he was born like 5 days late he wouldn't be eligible til the '13 draft. Killed it in the top junior Finnish league this year in limited action, and is producing at a pretty decent clip in SM-Liiga despite his age. Seems to be a good skater with great vision and finishing ability from what I've seen.
I just got back from the Knights-67s game tonight. A couple of things. First, if the Flyers can find a way to move up and grab Ceci, they need to do so. He was a rock back there tonight. I still don't know what scout it was that said he wasn't physical, but he lowered the boom several times tonight and he was also superb defensively. On top of it, he has a superb outlet pass and he has a dynamite shot. He scored a goal tonight with a slap shot that was low and hard.
As well, for the 2013 draft, Sean Monahan should be one of the top picks. I've never seen such a slick center with a matching defensive game. He didn't score any points tonight, but he was absolutely fabulous at both ends of the ice. He's also a big center. I think the CSB site has him listed at 6'3, but he's at least 6'4 - 6'5. He also another one who can throw his body around.
As for London, I still can't put my finger on why Seth Griffith wasn't drafted. The man is a demon on the ice. He's got all kinds of speed, great hands and he's very gritty. He's not afraid to get into people's faces and he can definitely play the game. Hopefully this is one kid the Flyers will consider drafting if he's available.
Another player who will be a top pick is Max Domi. He's another good guy who can finish and he's also very good defensively. I see A LOT of Bobby Clarke in his game in that Domi really is a complete player. He's about the same size as Clarke and has the tenacity to match.
As for Oli Maata, he didn't really stand out offensively, but you can tell that the skill is there. He's also a very physical player who lowered the boom as well. The one thing I really like about Maata, when compared to Ceci, is that Maata skates standing up straight. Ceci kind of has a hunched over stance when he skates.
Unless they want to start trading 2014 picks they have no assets outside of roster players to move up in the draft. well in the 1st round anyway.
When the draft comes around though, teams aren't really interested in draft picks two years down the road, at least high in the draft, but if you are, it's in a bigger package of picks.
I just got back from the Knights-67s game tonight. A couple of things. First, if the Flyers can find a way to move up and grab Ceci, they need to do so. He was a rock back there tonight. I still don't know what scout it was that said he wasn't physical, but he lowered the boom several times tonight and he was also superb defensively. On top of it, he has a superb outlet pass and he has a dynamite shot. He scored a goal tonight with a slap shot that was low and hard.
As well, for the 2013 draft, Sean Monahan should be one of the top picks. I've never seen such a slick center with a matching defensive game. He didn't score any points tonight, but he was absolutely fabulous at both ends of the ice. He's also a big center. I think the CSB site has him listed at 6'3, but he's at least 6'4 - 6'5. He also another one who can throw his body around.
As for London, I still can't put my finger on why Seth Griffith wasn't drafted. The man is a demon on the ice. He's got all kinds of speed, great hands and he's very gritty. He's not afraid to get into people's faces and he can definitely play the game. Hopefully this is one kid the Flyers will consider drafting if he's available.
Another player who will be a top pick is Max Domi. He's another good guy who can finish and he's also very good defensively. I see A LOT of Bobby Clarke in his game in that Domi really is a complete player. He's about the same size as Clarke and has the tenacity to match.
As for Oli Maata, he didn't really stand out offensively, but you can tell that the skill is there. He's also a very physical player who lowered the boom as well. The one thing I really like about Maata, when compared to Ceci, is that Maata skates standing up straight. Ceci kind of has a hunched over stance when he skates.
If we can get Ceci, I would ****ing love Homer, but hope we don't give up a lot for it. Our first plus something else to get him, or at least the pick that he would/could be picked at.
For the highlighted guy, is he a Couturier-like player then?
Please stop throwing comparisons around. So far we have adam oates, kovulchuck and Max Domi is Bobby Clarke. Bobby Clarke was the best player in the league.
Please stop throwing comparisons around. So far we have adam oates, kovulchuck and Max Domi is Bobby Clarke. Bobby Clarke was the best player in the league.
Eh, EVERY prospect has comparisons. Happens before, during, and after the draft. Doesnt mean they will be like those players, just means their style is like them.
Eh, EVERY prospect has comparisons. Happens before, during, and after the draft. Doesnt mean they will be like those players, just means their style is like them.
