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11-26-2011, 09:18 PM
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Being on the opposite side is all the more reason for blowing the whistle.

Montreal defense also needs to explain why they stopped playing but the Penguins didn't.

$20 says that goal just saved Max a suspension though.
I completely agree with you, that is why I am shocked the whistle was not blown, but some people have said the referee was in terrible positioning when that isn't the case. The problem was the fact he didn't blow the whistle, which was clearly an error.

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11-26-2011, 09:18 PM
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This is how I see it:

1. Play to the whistle-habs really needed to keep playing
2. Bad call-but the ref saw something to make him believe it was loose
3. The NHL has to be better in these situations. Why didn't the other ref call it dead?
That's the one problem with this rule.... if one ref can't see it he is suppose to blow the whistle, there is that chance that the other ref has a clear view.

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Referee is out day to day with a broken whistle.

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11-26-2011, 09:18 PM
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Bad call no doubt, but I don't have any pity for the habs considering the no call on Pacioretty.

The reffing in this game was beyong brutal... wow

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11-26-2011, 09:19 PM
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lol the goal was bs, and both goal waived off earlier were bs also, unless punching the puck into the net with your glove is allowed now?

That being said I don't mind losing the game too much because the Pens played much better and the habs kept making stupid play in the defensive zone. They didn't deserve a point.

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11-26-2011, 09:19 PM
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Not one Pens fan would be complaining had that play been blown dead, Price clearly had the puck.

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11-26-2011, 09:19 PM
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That's the one problem with this rule.... if one ref can't see it he is suppose to blow the whistle, there is that chance that the other ref has a clear view.
I see. But the other ref can blow it dead right?

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11-26-2011, 09:20 PM
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It doesn't necessarily have to be covered, just immobilized. Which it was for a good 4-5 seconds; 2-3 of those where he had his glove over it.
The whole play lasted 3 or 4 sec (watch the clock, not guess). And price never had his glove flat on the ice covering it, he was looking for it the whole time.

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Not one Pens fan would be complaining had that play been blown dead, Price clearly had the puck.
You really can't say that.

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Brutal Call is anyone really surprised Crosby's team on HNIC

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11-26-2011, 09:21 PM
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Not one Pens fan would be complaining had that play been blown dead, Price clearly had the puck.
Guess he should have leaned on it until he heard the whistle. He has to accept a little responsibility for not bearing down on the puck.

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Brutal Call is anyone really surprised Crosby's team on HNIC
The calls were bad both ways tonight champ...

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I see. But the other ref can blow it dead right?
Yes...... and blowing the whistle runs the risk that the puck is wide open.

But that's the way it's written, both refs must have full view of the puck which clearly wasn't the case here.

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I stand by my statement. Habs had 59 minutes and 59 seconds to win even if not clowing the whistle was incorrect, which I do not think it was. They did not lose because of that call anymore than Pittsburgh would have after all the bad calls went the Habs way. There was a lot of hockey, including a lot of it the refs tilted the ice the Habs way, other than that call.

In the end bad calls are part of the game. Winners play through them losers complain.
By this logic the pens are the biggest losers because they almost complain on every call the refs make. (BTW I don't think the pens are losers)

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11-26-2011, 09:22 PM
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Get your foil hats out!


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Refs were horrible period. Has nothing to do with the Pens getting the game "gift wrapped" to them. Just a bad break for the Habs since the ref decided facing Price's back was a smart idea. His responsibility to be in position to see the puck.

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Price's words: "I had the ****ing thing covered, that's what I had. And they didn't blow the whistle and they poked it out rammed it right out from underneath me and they put it in the net. So that's how that went down" "I clearly clearly had my hand over the put, CLEARLY!"

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11-26-2011, 09:23 PM
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Guess he should have leaned on it until he heard the whistle. He has to accept a little responsibility for not bearing down on the puck.
It's easy to say that now, but he knew he had the puck covered.

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He keeps looking for an official to blow the play dead. You would too, if you were waiting around for that length of time.

Robbery, pure and simple.
Are you ****ing kidding me? No goalie softly covers the puck then looks for the ref to see if he blows the whistle. Price's body language told the ref that it was a lose puck, and it was.

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11-26-2011, 09:23 PM
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That's the one problem with this rule.... if one ref can't see it he is suppose to blow the whistle, there is that chance that the other ref has a clear view.
Many times especially at some of the lower levels the other officials will scream loose when the puck isn't covered to help the referee closest to the play, however you very rarely see it other way to let them know its covered. My opinion is this is the case because I don't think plays like the one in this game happen too often, as usually its the other way around when there is quick whistle.

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11-26-2011, 09:24 PM
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2 Disallowed Goals for Pittsburgh
Letang head shot, draws blood, no penalty called
MTL give up 3-1 lead

Price softly covers the puck, whistle not immediately blown, Letang takes puck and scores.

Yes, it was the Ref which handed the game to the Penguins. Perhaps if the Canadiens could have held the lead given their abundance of lucky breaks during regulation they wouldn't be crying about a weak non-whistle in OT.
The missed call in OT resulted in the winning goal which made a direct impact on the outcome of the game. The hit on Letang which I agree there should have been a penalty which MIGHT have made a difference to the game. That was the main difference.

Other than that bad/missed calls were made against both teams tonight and the two disallowed goals were rightfully well, disallowed.

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11-26-2011, 09:24 PM
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Are you ****ing kidding me? No goalie softly covers the puck then looks for the ref to see if he blows the whistle. Price's body language told the ref that it was a lose puck, and it was.
He was looking for it, but I don't think it was loose. It was under his pad.

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Yes...... and blowing the whistle runs the risk that the puck is wide open.

But that's the way it's written, both refs must have full view of the puck which clearly wasn't the case here.
I wonder what the referee's have to say.

It'd be pretty cool to hear them after the game-don't they get graded every game?

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Did you see the play with 2 seconds left in regulation, where Price was fooling around with Subban, slipping the puck between his skates ? Too cool / too casual.

Same thing in OT, Price was being too cool / too casual, he should have frozen that puck with all his strength, but couldn't be bothered.

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11-26-2011, 09:25 PM
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It's easy to say that now, but he knew he had the puck covered.
Maybe, but then he has to lean on it to make sure a little flick of the wrist doesn't dislodge it. Goaltending 101.

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