We just need a 13-7 run to get us back to five hundred. That's all I crave for, a run to let Chuckles know that we are not going to be in the draft lottery and maybe just maybe we trade some futures for a playoff berth...Are we better than Pittsburgh or Boston certainly not, but are we equal to the rags or anybody else in the east YES WE ARE...I foam at the mouth for 60 points in 60 games. Just give me a meaningful March that's all I ask for...BTW we won today, make it 12-7...
We just need a 13-7 run to get us back to five hundred. That's all I crave for, a run to let Chuckles know that we are not going to be in the draft lottery and maybe just maybe we trade some futures for a playoff berth...Are we better than Pittsburgh or Boston certainly not, but are we equal to the rags or anybody else in the east YES WE ARE...I foam at the mouth for 60 points in 60 games. Just give me a meaningful March that's all I ask for...BTW we won today, make it 12-7...
Some advice for a meaningful march: become a Duke college basketball fan.
I'm kidding. You're optimism is refreshing. I'd love for it to happen, and I hope it does, but I'm doubtful. Don't hold your breath waiting on chuck wang either, unless you know how to get a new arena with an attached mega development deal to bring him millions.
Some advice for a meaningful march: become a Duke college basketball fan.
I'm kidding. You're optimism is refreshing. I'd love for it to happen, and I hope it does, but I'm doubtful. Don't hold your breath waiting on chuck wang either, unless you know how to get a new arena with an attached mega development deal to bring him millions.
You know deep down that chuckles is similar to the owner to the Indians in major league, everytime we win Garth tries to celebrate he is quickly told knock it off by chuckles...If Grabner, Bailey, and Okposo start to play the way they have been the last three games I think a 13-7 run isn't out of the question...
You know deep down that chuckles is similar to the owner to the Indians in major league, everytime we win Garth tries to celebrate he is quickly told knock it off by chuckles...If Grabner, Bailey, and Okposo start to play the way they have been the last three games I think a 13-7 run isn't out of the question...
I knock Snow/Wang all the time and I've been really disappointed this season, but you're right, a decent run needs only a few more things:
Bailey to play better (he's been pretty good this year, I still have high hopes for him)
Okposo to play better (he's capable, based on his history and talent level)
Montoya to start more, he's solid.
Grabner to keep his feet moving, play harder.
Tavares needs to step up more, Moulson needs to work harder, and Snow needs to add a defenseman for crying out loud.
I knock Snow/Wang all the time and I've been really disappointed this season, but you're right, a decent run needs only a few more things:
Bailey to play better (he's been pretty good this year, I still have high hopes for him)
Okposo to play better (he's capable, based on his history and talent level)
Montoya to start more, he's solid.
Grabner to keep his feet moving, play harder.
Tavares needs to step up more, Moulson needs to work harder, and Snow needs to add a defenseman for crying out loud.
I do agree with you, however the shutouts are alarming, and hopefully they disappear and become a thing of the past. Montoya is playing well, Bailey has been playing well as of late, the same could be said for Okposo and Grabner. If Tavares gets hot it certainly isn't out of the question to string out a bunch of wins in a row. I certainly don't think we will make the playoffs, but you never know stranger things have happened.
sorry to be a negative nancy, but cmon...look at our record....and if youre still unconvinced, look at our play...we are not a good team
although, i will say bailey has looked better the last few games (not just because of the points)...however i want to see this for 20 games straight before i change my opinion of him...in the same spirit...lets win 7 of 10 before we start a thread like this...just my opinion
On paper, this team isn't as bad as their record. But in reality you guys have started very slow. But ther is a silver light on the horizon: Grabner seems to heat up, Bailey wasn't that bad the last few games and montoya should get the starting job.
Oh, and JT needs.to wake the **** up after his hot start he has been sleeping most of the time.
Anything is still possible for the isles but you guys better get your things together soon.... A turn around will be too late in january.
I really hope you start a serious winning record because these rangers fans are starting to annoy me who are laughing at you.
We just need a 13-7 run to get us back to five hundred. That's all I crave for, a run to let Chuckles know that we are not going to be in the draft lottery and maybe just maybe we trade some futures for a playoff berth...Are we better than Pittsburgh or Boston certainly not, but are we equal to the rags or anybody else in the east YES WE ARE...I foam at the mouth for 60 points in 60 games. Just give me a meaningful March that's all I ask for...BTW we won today, make it 12-7...
.500 in the NHL still leaves you about 10 pts out of a playoff spot when all is said and done. Last year's #8 seeds were 11 and 15 games over .500 and squeaked into the postseason.
I'm not going to predict where the team will end up but 6 - 11 is better then last years 5 - 18. If they can go on a second half winning streak without having as big of a hole to get out of as last year who knows?
I'm not going to predict where the team will end up but 6 - 11 is better then last years 5 - 18. If they can go on a second half winning streak without having as big of a hole to get out of as last year who knows?
I hear you, but that would still require them to be the best team from December out for a 10% chance of sneaking in. In other words, all hail the Nail.
I think a big part of the team's problems, which a few guys address from time to time, is contribution offensively from the defensemen. I do believe this is a huge issue this year, where it was not last year as Hamonic and MacDonald were racking up decent point totals. Teams that win in the NHL get offensive contributions from the blue line. We don't have dmen that carry the puck well. It also hurts not having a defensemen coach the defense.
Isles could deal for Kaberle and close this hole quickly. I do believe Reese is a better offensive option than either Staios or Mottau.
I think Okposo and Grabner are out of their funks.
What has been apparent is that Ullstrom will match Martin on an energy level and that is good, perhaps bringing Dibo up might be a good idea too.
The veteran angle has backfired badly on this team. When you add so many veterans at once to a team, they take over the locker room. It is natural for this to happen.
So could this team go on a run... yes. Is it worth it...... not really. It provides a much better fan experience at the cost of still missing the playoffs and a great lottery pick. Like a poster above mentioned, you have to play 11 games over .500 to make the playoffs and it is still nailbiting time at that level. This could only happen if Capuano is fired and the Isles bring in a taskmaster coach, plus adding Kaberle and probably a top 6 forward.
I think a big part of the team's problems, which a few guys address from time to time, is contribution offensively from the defensemen. I do believe this is a huge issue this year, where it was not last year as Hamonic and MacDonald were racking up decent point totals. Teams that win in the NHL get offensive contributions from the blue line. We don't have dmen that carry the puck well. It also hurts not having a defensemen coach the defense.
Isles could deal for Kaberle and close this hole quickly. I do believe Reese is a better offensive option than either Staios or Mottau.
I think Okposo and Grabner are out of their funks.
What has been apparent is that Ullstrom will match Martin on an energy level and that is good, perhaps bringing Dibo up might be a good idea too.
The veteran angle has backfired badly on this team. When you add so many veterans at once to a team, they take over the locker room. It is natural for this to happen.
So could this team go on a run... yes. Is it worth it...... not really. It provides a much better fan experience at the cost of still missing the playoffs and a great lottery pick. Like a poster above mentioned, you have to play 11 games over .500 to make the playoffs and it is still nailbiting time at that level. This could only happen if Capuano is fired and the Isles bring in a taskmaster coach, plus adding Kaberle and probably a top 6 forward.
Hamonic and AMac are FAR FROM a top pairing defense. That's the issue. The team is mis-cast because they don't have good players. They are asking younger players who AREN'T THAT GOOD to play top minutes against teams that are simply far better.
MacDonald is not a PP guy, he's a warm body who plays the point. Hamonic's game is not yet of a PP guy, maybe in a few years. He has other things to focus on. Streit is alone on that defense and he is struggling of late.
Hamonic and AMac are FAR FROM a top pairing defense. That's the issue. The team is mis-cast because they don't have good players. They are asking younger players who AREN'T THAT GOOD to play top minutes against teams that are simply far better.
MacDonald is not a PP guy, he's a warm body who plays the point. Hamonic's game is not yet of a PP guy, maybe in a few years. He has other things to focus on. Streit is alone on that defense and he is struggling of late.
Where's the help?
I think Hamonic and MacDonald were successful last year in offensive roles and are not this year, I think both are top 4 quality dmen, I just think the management of the defense is poor this year and starting to think that is the biggest problem, a hockey team can't have 4 coaches, so that the defensive coach is not on the bench half the time.
If grabs is heating up now, I can see isles going on a bit of a run. I think if they win 2 out of every 3 until christmas, they'll be in good shape. Its basically the same kind of run you suggest, but when worded like I did, it sounds more doable haha. Just basically prevent any sort of losing streak. The playoffs for this team have started...and its November. They cannot afford to lose 2-3-4 games in a row anymore
If grabs is heating up now, I can see isles going on a bit of a run. I think if they win 2 out of every 3 until christmas, they'll be in good shape. Its basically the same kind of run you suggest, but when worded like I did, it sounds more doable haha. Just basically prevent any sort of losing streak. The playoffs for this team have started...and its November. They cannot afford to lose 2-3-4 games in a row anymore
great point. It's getting old seeing the islanders playing meaningful games in November
MacDonald is not a PP guy, he's a warm body who plays the point. Hamonic's game is not yet of a PP guy, maybe in a few years. He has other things to focus on. Streit is alone on that defense and he is struggling of late.
With this in mind, I can say that I feel the 'sluggish' MacDonald we saw the first 15 games has been much more mobile and active lately.
I'm hoping that this is because he's getting back to form after the hip surgery.
If you ask me, now might be the time to start shopping Streit. Or do we take the chance that he's injured come the trade deadline?
He is arguably THE player who would bring back the most in a deal.
With this in mind, I can say that I feel the 'sluggish' MacDonald we saw the first 15 games has been much more mobile and active lately.
I like AMac a great deal, I think he's a very solid defenseman. He struggled quite a bit earlier this year but has been back to his old self. He reminds me of Martinek, he's good in all areas, underappreciated, but not great at any single area.
MacDonald can play on any team in the NHL, for sure. At worst, he's a 5-6 on a championship team but has shown he can be effectve eating up big minutes in all situations against the best players in hockey. Trial by fire, mostly in losses, but I've seen enough from him to see that he can play.
On NO TEAM should AMac be a top pairing defenseman, a shutdown guy and a PP guy. The Islanders simply need to upgrade the roster. They need more size and more skill and more speed - Ideally a player should have at least TWO such traits. Talent and either size or speed.
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I'm hoping that this is because he's getting back to form after the hip surgery.
If you ask me, now might be the time to start shopping Streit. Or do we take the chance that he's injured come the trade deadline?
If Snow and Wang aren't going to make the commitment to bring in good player over the next year or two then they should trade Streit. It's completely opposite to what SHOULD happen, but there's absolutely no point in keeping Streit if you plan to finish bottom five for the next two years.
A team like Detroit might be willing to offer Nyquist, Brendan Smith and a pick to get over the top. Maybe LA offers Toffoli, Hickey and a pick.
Snow's got to decide really quickly what kind of team he's going to ice. Either bring in some vets who can play, and spend the dollars or go with kids and hope to win the lottery every year until a Crosby, Malkin, Letang, Fleury all fall on your lap at the same time, try and compete with children.
I hate the idea of moving Streit but there's absolutely no sense in keeping players like this if you pair them with Staios and you finish last all the time.
So could this team go on a run... yes. Is it worth it...... not really. It provides a much better fan experience at the cost of still missing the playoffs and a great lottery pick.
HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
Only in Islanderville is losing considered a good fan experience!
If Snow and Wang aren't going to make the commitment to bring in good player over the next year or two then they should trade Streit. It's completely opposite to what SHOULD happen, but there's absolutely no point in keeping Streit if you plan to finish bottom five for the next two years.
A team like Detroit might be willing to offer Nyquist, Brendan Smith and a pick to get over the top. Maybe LA offers Toffoli, Hickey and a pick.
Snow's got to decide really quickly what kind of team he's going to ice. Either bring in some vets who can play, and spend the dollars or go with kids and hope to win the lottery every year until a Crosby, Malkin, Letang, Fleury all fall on your lap at the same time, try and compete with children.
I hate the idea of moving Streit but there's absolutely no sense in keeping players like this if you pair them with Staios and you finish last all the time.
Exactly. Well-said.
And yes, I think Streit DOES bring back exactly the kind of returns you mentioned for a team looking to get over the top.
In fact, put him on the teams you mentioned and I see him being a beast,
In any case, I agree - I just don't see why you have a guy of his skillset here if you have no intention of doing what's necessary to even be within air space of a playoff spot.
And sadly, I think he's been wondering why the heck he's here. I think we've seen it in his body language on several occasions thus far this seasons.
