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11-27-2011, 01:06 PM
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Wouldn't mind a Bobby Ryan, Jonas Hiller combo coming our way. Double the Jonas!
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I've been hearing "sabres showing interest" in Bobby Ryan on Twitter for the last few days already...

Would love Bobby Ryan .. just wouldn't want to lose Miller for him tho.
Ducks struggling right now. why not trade Miller and Roy for Hillier and Ryan ?

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Ducks struggling right now. why not trade Miller and Roy for Hillier and Ryan ?
Because Miller is better than Hiller .... and Ryan is not a center...so why give up Roy?

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Ducks struggling right now. why not trade Miller and Roy for Hillier and Ryan ?
How quickly the "You must have quality centers to win" approach is abandoned by some. Is Adam our #1 center after this deal? Hecht? Gaustad?

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Because Miller is better than Hiller .... and Ryan is not a center...so why give up Roy?
I know that but I want to see the Sabres get bigger up the middle and I want Roy gone....Picking up Ryan would make us bigger maybe not in the middle but it would be a big upgrade on our wings....We can address the center issue later.

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How quickly the "You must have quality centers to win" approach is abandoned by some. Is Adam our #1 center after this deal? Hecht? Gaustad?
But Bobby Ryan played center last year when Getzlaf was out!! Shifting wingers to center has worked so well before

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Obviously we'd have to give up another rostered player for cap purposes but value wise, I don't think it would take Miller + Roy to land Ryan + Hiller. Ennis + Miller could get it done I think.

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I know that but I want to see the Sabres get bigger up the middle and I want Roy gone....Picking up Ryan would make us bigger maybe not in the middle but it would be a big upgrade on our wings....We can address the center issue later.
Siphoning more resources away from the center position and into the wings? Darcy, is that you?

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Siphoning more resources away from the center position and into the wings? Darcy, is that you?
naw just a fan that's tired of derek roy, and I see this as an opportunity to do so.

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11-27-2011, 01:18 PM
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Siphoning more resources away from the center position and into the wings? Darcy, is that you?
Some wings actually can play center. Poms as #1, initiate sequence .

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Obviously we'd have to give up another rostered player for cap purposes but value wise, I don't think it would take Miller + Roy to land Ryan + Hiller. Ennis + Miller could get it done I think.
Not a chance. I doubt Anaheim even does it for Miller and Roy.

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Siphoning more resources away from the center position and into the wings? Darcy, is that you?
Exactly. Nobody can convince me that Vanek, Pominville, Ennis, Stafford, Leino, Boyes, Gerbe, McCormick, Kaleta isn't good enough and that's including Hecht playing at center. Even if Leino shifts back to center at some point (which I don't advise because he's been playing well) the other 8 are plenty good. We absolutely don't need another winger at any cost.

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11-27-2011, 01:24 PM
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Miller + Stafford + CGY's 2nd + Prospect? = Hiller + Ryan

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11-27-2011, 01:27 PM
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Miller + Stafford + CGY's 2nd + Prospect? = Hiller + Ryan
Far more reasonable, though I don't think Anaheim does it. At the very least, nice job not using the proposal as the impetus to get rid of players you subjectively dislike. It makes sense given the current composition of our roster.

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Not a chance. I doubt Anaheim even does it for Miller and Roy.
Is Hiller that valuable?

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More baseless innuendo from garbage sportwriters whoring for pageviews.

Everyone KNEW Miller wanted to play in Detroit before he signed his extension. Now everyone KNOWS he wants to be out west because of his wife.

Quick, how many Sabres players are married or dating someone who doesn't live in town? Do all those players want out too?

BS. All of it.

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11-27-2011, 01:31 PM
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More baseless innuendo from garbage sportwriters whoring for pageviews.

Everyone KNEW Miller wanted to play in Detroit before he signed his extension. Now everyone KNOWS he wants to be out west because of his wife.

Quick, how many Sabres players are married or dating someone who doesn't live in town? Do all those players want out too?

BS. All of it.
This guy had the baseless innuendo about Pegula before anyone else.

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11-27-2011, 01:32 PM
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Siphoning more resources away from the center position and into the wings? Darcy, is that you?
Can't be, Darcy would never trade away his precious Roy.

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11-27-2011, 01:37 PM
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This is going to spawn a lot of stupid proposals on the trade boards. By Tuesday people are going to have this spun into Miller making Hasek-like trade demands.
Yay.
Let's get ourselves a sulking Russian 2nd liner.

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11-27-2011, 01:41 PM
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Yawn

Anytime you have a starter out/struggling and a backup playing well, these will creep up.

Up until Thomas won the conn smythe, all it took was Rask winning a start for the rumor mills to start churning.

If Enroth continues to play well AND Miller comes to Regier and says he wants to move some place to be closer to his wife, ok, let's look at potential trades. And in the offseason.

Trading a 6 million dollar goalie isn't something you do in season. And if they trade him, we are looking at the Luongo return:

A salary dump (Bertuzzi), a decent asset (Allen), and a veteran goalie (Auld)

The only potential trading partner I see that could work isn't a west coast team, but I think Miller would gladly accept a trade to is Chicago.

Something like Crawford+Hjalmarsson for Miller+ Leopold gives Buffalo some immediate cap relief, gives Buffalo a good veteran netminder to platoon with Enroth, and gives us the that OTHER stay at home d-man we need in the top 4.

Miller won't accept a trade for Phoenix.
Colorado just paid through the nose for Varalamov.
SJ, LA, and Anaheim have been covered as to their situations.

But again, this will always happen with a high profile goalie+ backup playing well. The only fire we can expect to see from this smoke is a writer trying to get some attention.

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Yay.
Let's get ourselves a sulking Russian 2nd liner.
That's "proven winner" to you .

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Kopitar and Quick for Miller and Roy/Stafford

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At the very least, nice job not using the proposal as the impetus to get rid of players you subjectively dislike. It makes sense given the current composition of our roster.
But I put Stafford in there.

I just think if you're going to make a move of that magnitutde, you need to gut some of the core and shake things up.

I'd prefer dealing those assets for a C though, Ryan can't play C. I included Stafford because he's a part of the core, but also if we're getting a W back, one needs to go out as well.

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Yay.
Let's get ourselves a sulking Russian 2nd liner.
Miller for Semin.

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This guy had the baseless innuendo about Pegula before anyone else.
No, he did not. He had concrete information about Pegula before anyone else. He wasn't speculating then. He is now.

Read what was written. That's not someone who has facts that Miller wants out. That's someone speculating that Miller wants out, and saying he wants to be out west because of his wife.

Just because he got one thing right once doesn't mean people should ******* the guy and instantly believe everything he says in the future.

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"We keep hearing... he wouldn't mind if the Sabres traded him." That's not speculation.

Also, discussing it is whatever you intend ******** to show up as? Get over yourself.

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