They looked a lot better against the Jets than against Dallas and Miami and NY theoretically has a better D (though I'll be the first to say they're overrated as hell). If they can play like they did yesterday the rest of the season, they'll get a couple more wins.
edit: I should say they SEEMED a lot better as I was only following online/listening briefly
At this point I hope they lose out. I think the talent is getting there and the team is improving. With all the injuries they have this year (and every year it seems), you really can't expect them to keep winning.
Now that the playoffs aren't a possibility we need to start thinking draft and start losing.
Maybe the 3 year rebuilding plan is right on track.
I agree with Mergus. We've had over a decade of the Bills being a perennial .500 team. I'd rather the Bills either be good enough to make the playoffs outright or tank to get key players. This team needs to tank hard since there are a couple franchise QBs in this draft. I think there's zero chance that the Bills will stink enough to offset the Colts, but perhaps they have a chance at drafting Barkely. Even if you feel that Fitzbpatrick is the long-term answer at QB, I don't think that you'd disagree that we're still missing some key playmakers that we'd be better served by tanking rather than being a .500 team, at best. If we don't draft a QB, I hope we go for an OLB.
Dunno why people are arguing, Takeo's right. Darreus has been good, but he hasn't been a game changing player. Not even close. That's what you expect from a draft pick that high, and that's what Von Miller has been so far. I still think he'll get there at some point and still think he was a good pick, but he hasn't been overly noticeable yet.
Pretty much every defensive stat is identical to last year so far. I'd expect a top 3 pick taken on the defensive line to bolster those numbers. Hasn't happened yet.
Huh?
We had the worst run defense in the league last year by 15 yards/game. We were 36 yards/game out of 29th place! We gave up an almost unfathomable 2714 yards on the ground. That's abysmal.
This year we're in 22nd place. Certainly nothing to write home about, but it's a noticeable and obvious improvement. And that's been with Pro Bowler Kyle Williams injured all season.
As Zman pointed out in the last thread, there's only been two notable additions to our front 7 this year: Barnett and Dareus. What more does he have to do to be a "game changing player" in his rookie season?
I can't believe Buddy Nix drafted Troup over Gronkowski. How do you build through the draft when you don't know how to draft? Maybe if we are lucky and lose every game remaining we can draft a #1 O.L.B who is capable of sacking the Q.B. atleast 10 times a yr. Starting next yr. It would be nice though if we can get our hands on Quinton Coples. Bring in a W.R. free agent like Pierre Garcon etc. Sign Fred Jackson. Sign Steve J. Do you think O.B.D is capable of doing these things? These are the things we need to get done next year. Also i would not mind signing a #1 corner back in free agency also. The o.linemen can come through the draft.
Is O.B.D. going to spend money next year? or is it gonna just be the same old story?
I will pray every day. That R.W. will actually care and go all out next year and spend the bank to bring this fanchise back to being a contender.
I agree with Mergus. We've had over a decade of the Bills being a perennial .500 team. I'd rather the Bills either be good enough to make the playoffs outright or tank to get key players. This team needs to tank hard since there are a couple franchise QBs in this draft. I think there's zero chance that the Bills will stink enough to offset the Colts, but perhaps they have a chance at drafting Barkely. Even if you feel that Fitzbpatrick is the long-term answer at QB, I don't think that you'd disagree that we're still missing some key playmakers that we'd be better served by tanking rather than being a .500 team, at best. If we don't draft a QB, I hope we go for an OLB.
Look at the 2006 draft. At the time many teams did not "need" a QB, but how many of those on the list wish they had drafted Rodgers now?
We had the worst run defense in the league last year by 15 yards/game. We were 36 yards/game out of 29th place! We gave up an almost unfathomable 2714 yards on the ground. That's abysmal.
This year we're in 22nd place. Certainly nothing to write home about, but it's a noticeable and obvious improvement. And that's been with Pro Bowler Kyle Williams injured all season.
As Zman pointed out in the last thread, there's only been two notable additions to our front 7 this year: Barnett and Dareus. What more does he have to do to be a "game changing player" in his rookie season?
Also as a 3-4 DE, he is not supposed to put up flashy stats. He is supposed to stop gaps and occupy opposing linemen. He has been fine.
We had the worst run defense in the league last year by 15 yards/game. We were 36 yards/game out of 29th place! We gave up an almost unfathomable 2714 yards on the ground. That's abysmal.
This year we're in 22nd place. Certainly nothing to write home about, but it's a noticeable and obvious improvement. And that's been with Pro Bowler Kyle Williams injured all season.
As Zman pointed out in the last thread, there's only been two notable additions to our front 7 this year: Barnett and Dareus. What more does he have to do to be a "game changing player" in his rookie season?
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Also as a 3-4 DE, he is not supposed to put up flashy stats. He is supposed to stop gaps and occupy opposing linemen. He has been fine.
I just don't understand the angle in the first place. Miller was drafted #2, we picked Dareus #3. Therefore Miller was never an option, yet there are many people who treat it like we passed over him to get 'just' Dareus.
I love dareus but getting Miller would have been awesome....maybe looking at a different record right now with him, but the same could probably be said about dareus...with the much improoved run defense this year id say he is an impact player.
We had the worst run defense in the league last year by 15 yards/game. We were 36 yards/game out of 29th place! We gave up an almost unfathomable 2714 yards on the ground. That's abysmal.
This year we're in 22nd place. Certainly nothing to write home about, but it's a noticeable and obvious improvement. And that's been with Pro Bowler Kyle Williams injured all season.
As Zman pointed out in the last thread, there's only been two notable additions to our front 7 this year: Barnett and Dareus. What more does he have to do to be a "game changing player" in his rookie season?
It's a sad commentary that going from "really really really bad" to just "bad" is what Bills fans can look forward to.
The problem with the defense is we are running a 34 without any capable pass rushing OLBs. I would want to do the following based on availability at the draft: Draft Courtney Upshaw as a pass rushing ROLB and keep a 34, or draft Quinton Coples as a 43 RDE and go back to a 43 with Dareus and Williams as tackles.
Apparently the Bills are about to get a blackout this week....about 12k tickets short....
Does anyone really wanna watch the Bills get torn up by Chris Johnson? I don't. I'm just sick and tired of the same old B.S. every yr. Injuries, Injuries, Injuries, No depth, Injuries, Injuries, Injuries, no depth. No playoffs. Watch and see the Bills dont go after any free agents next yr. Same old story it will be. Build through the draft, and give our receivers another chance.
The problem with the defense is we are running a 34 without any capable pass rushing OLBs. I would want to do the following based on availability at the draft: Draft Courtney Upshaw as a pass rushing ROLB and keep a 34, or draft Quinton Coples as a 43 RDE and go back to a 43 with Dareus and Williams as tackles.
I agree. I would rather do the 4-3 de with Coples. They need to go after free agents next yr. If they don't I will just be very sad.
The problem with the defense is we are running a 34 without any capable pass rushing OLBs. I would want to do the following based on availability at the draft: Draft Courtney Upshaw as a pass rushing ROLB and keep a 34, or draft Quinton Coples as a 43 RDE and go back to a 43 with Dareus and Williams as tackles.
I also think they should fire George Edwards now and let Dave W. run this De from now on. Like this needs to be done A.S.A.P. Why are they still letting this guy coach? Who makes more money Edwards or Dave W.?
Boy, I sure would have been mad back in August if you'd told me by week 12 the Bills would be 5-6.
I could have told you that. The Bills had no depth at any position and were 25million under the cap. And they were still letting players go to save even more money. I can not wait until they have to spend like every one else has to. I believe 90% of the cap. I could be wrong. When is that 2013?
I could have told you that. The Bills had no depth at any position and were 25million under the cap. And they were still letting players go to save even more money. I can not wait until they have to spend like every one else has to. I believe 90% of the cap. I could be wrong. When is that 2013?
I'm pretty sure he meant "if you told me back in the lockout that the Bills would win 5 games this year with a quarter of the season to go, I'd be thrilled because I honestly did not expect they would win that many."
