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11-28-2011, 12:38 PM
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Eh. You need to have guys willing to play that way, and I don't think Washington does. Hell, BB was trying to get them to play a tougher two-way game, and their entire game went to hell after he tried doing so.

What would be scary is if McPhee backs Hunter's philosophies and starts making trades for players who do play the way Hunter wants it done. Then I'd be scared.


I think people comparing our coaching change to theres are off. Our situation was a team that just needed to reigns pulled off of it, so it could play to its capability. Our entire game plan didn't need altered.

What Hunter is trying to make that team do is what BB was trying to make that team do, and I just don't think they have the locker room to get it done at the moment.
This. If Ovechkin was sad to be benched by Boudreau for not trying, he'll be mad when Hunter does the same to him. Boudreau wanted to make the stars accountable, I wouldn't expect anything different from Hunter. Sure, it will be difficult for Hunter to be as dumb as Boudreau, but I guess we'll see. One thing for sure, the Caps will probably go on a tear for a while. Will they do better in the playoffs? That's the real question.

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11-28-2011, 12:53 PM
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I never got the impression that his nastiness translated to coaching though. I mean, the Knights weren't exactly roughing up the OHL.
Actually, the London Knights are notorious for pulling "Dale Hunter" moves when they're losing games. They're one of the chippier teams in the league, every season.

Hunter's been a dominant coach in junior. It'll be interesting to see if his success can translate to the NHL level.

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11-28-2011, 01:19 PM
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Here's the Knight's record under Hunter:

Season Games Won Lost Tied OTL SL Points Pct % Goals Goals Against Standing
2001–02 68 24 27 10 7 - 65 0.478 210 249 5th West
2002–03 68 31 27 7 3 - 72 0.529 220 205 2nd Midwest
2003–04 68 53 11 2 2 - 110 0.809 300 147 1st Midwest
2004–05 68 59 7 2 0 - 120 0.882 310 125 1st Midwest
2005–06 68 49 15 - 1 3 102 0.75 304 211 1st Midwest
2006–07 68 50 14 - 1 3 104 0.765 311 231 1st Midwest
2007–08 68 38 24 - 4 2 82 0.603 250 230 2nd Midwest
2008–09 68 49 16 - 1 2 101 0.743 287 194 1st Midwest
2009–10 68 49 16 - 1 2 101 0.743 273 208 1st Midwest
2010–11 68 34 29 - 4 1 73 0.537 230 253 5th Midwest

Playoffs
2000–01 Lost to Erie Otters 4 games to 1 in first round.
2001–02 Defeated Plymouth Whalers 4 games to 2 in first round.
Lost to Erie Otters 4 games to 2 in quarterfinals.
2002–03 Defeated Windsor Spitfires 4 games to 3 in first round.
Lost to Plymouth Whalers 4 games to 2 in quarterfinals.
2003–04 Defeated Windsor Spitfires 4 games to 0 in first round.
Defeated Erie Otters 4 games to 0 in quarterfinals.
Lost to Guelph Storm 4 games to 3 in semifinals.
2004–05 Defeated Guelph Storm 4 games to 0 in first round.
Defeated Windsor Spitfires 4 games to 0 in quarterfinals.
Defeated Kitchener Rangers 4 games to 1 in semifinals.
Defeated Ottawa 67's 4 games to 1 in finals. OHL CHAMPIONS
Finished Memorial Cup round-robin in first place.
Defeated Rimouski Ocιanic 4-0 in the championship game. MEMORIAL CUP CHAMPIONS
2005–06 Defeated Sault Ste. Marie Greyhounds 4 games to 0 in first round.
Defeated Owen Sound Attack 4 games to 2 in quarterfinals.
Defeated Guelph Storm 4 games to 1 in semifinals.
Lost to Peterborough Petes 4 games to 0 in finals.
2006–07 Defeated Owen Sound Attack 4 games to 0 in first round.
Defeated Sault Ste. Marie Greyhounds 4 games to 3 in quarterfinals.
Lost to Plymouth Whalers 4 games to 1 in semifinals.
2007–08 Lost to Guelph Storm 4 games to 1 in first round.
2008–09 Defeated Erie Otters 4 games to 1 in first round.
Defeated Saginaw Spirit 4 games to 0 in quarterfinals.
Lost to Windsor Spitfires 4 games to 1 in semifinals.
2009-10 Defeated Guelph Storm 4 games to 1 in first round.
Lost to Kitchener Rangers 4 games to 3 in quarterfinals.
2010–11 Lost to Owen Sound Attack 4 games to 2 in first round.

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11-28-2011, 01:20 PM
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Hunter's an icon in Washington. Ovi (or anyone else) won't be able to run the show anymore. And I think that's a good thing for them. Hunter has enough pull, enough weight, enough of an ego, to stand up to the players.

Also, Hunter's developed a LOT of NHLers, and I think this is going to really help that franchise. He's been the heir apparent to take over for a while now. Hopefully for us, he will need some time to adjust.

I think we've seen the last of the defense-first Caps for a while. And I think we've seen the last of a struggling Ovi.

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11-28-2011, 01:20 PM
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Actually, the London Knights are notorious for pulling "Dale Hunter" moves when they're losing games. They're one of the chippier teams in the league, every season.

Hunter's been a dominant coach in junior. It'll be interesting to see if his success can translate to the NHL level.
Do you have any recollection of their style or system?

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11-28-2011, 01:28 PM
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Any deviation from the plan that has been the Capitals MO the last few years is bad news, in my opinion. Although I don't really think BB was that big of a factor in the Capitals underachieving. Yeah he was a goof, a loudmouth and a slob... but there are bigger problems in and around that organization than the now-former head coach.

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11-28-2011, 01:29 PM
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Do you have any recollection of their style or system?
He tended to adapt his team's style of play depending on whether he had high octane offensive players that season or not. If he had the offensive guns, he'd play a more aggressive style (similar to the Pens' current style). When he didn't have the guns, they played a bit more of a conservative style.

But they were always a tough team to play against. Tough on the forecheck, deadly on the PP (where he often employed a 5-man forward unit), worked hard, gritty, and in your face. And they were always dirty. If they were losing, even the star players on the team started hacking and wacking.

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11-28-2011, 01:34 PM
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Nothings going to change. Hunter can't coach an NHL team, all he knows how to do is hit from behind. He's a huge ******.

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11-28-2011, 01:45 PM
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Under the assumption that Hunter will want his team to play like he played. The Washington Capitals rank 23rd in the NHL in penalty killing.

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http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/sp...134585513.html

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Damn. I wanted him to be a life-long coach. He's horrible.
Yeah, me too.

This is nothing but bad news for the rest of the East. A team like Washington in the hands of a coach who is even mildly competent is going to be TERRIFYING.

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11-28-2011, 02:16 PM
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Well...they'll win the cup now

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Coaching kids is a lot different than coaching grown men. Just look at Nick Saban. Good coaching kids, horrible coaching pro's.

Now, I'm not saying this means Hunter won't make a good NHL coach, but let's not praise him before he's done anything as an NHL bench boss.

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11-28-2011, 02:31 PM
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I'm not buying it, Dale Hunter will get a surge out of them but the problems are too deep and until they purge those other problems filling in the voids. They're are still some time away from being A Penguin or Flyer team that went onto great runs.

Lets see what else they do.

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He tended to adapt his team's style of play depending on whether he had high octane offensive players that season or not. If he had the offensive guns, he'd play a more aggressive style (similar to the Pens' current style). When he didn't have the guns, they played a bit more of a conservative style.

But they were always a tough team to play against. Tough on the forecheck, deadly on the PP (where he often employed a 5-man forward unit), worked hard, gritty, and in your face. And they were always dirty. If they were losing, even the star players on the team started hacking and wacking.
Thanks for the insight, really appreciate it. I'm definitely not looking forward to the Capitals if that style translates. Which as a Caps fan, you should want.

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11-28-2011, 03:12 PM
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With this POS goon as their new coach, anyone kinda worried about the sake of our players health in Thursday night's game?

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Meh. Boudreau wasn't a great coach by any means, but the problem in that locker room had more to do with the twenty or so guys who did whatever the **** they felt like doing, instead of the one guy trying to tell them what to do.

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Again, I would underrate the Caps at our peril. Hunter is as much of a Caps icon as Ovechkin, and I suspect he was chosen primarily because he could control the players where BB couldn't.

I would expect them to come out flying against us on Thursday. I'm also thinking he's not exactly going to reign in any chippy behavior, especially after the Asham incident the previous time these two clubs met.

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11-28-2011, 04:08 PM
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Has Bruce spoke yet? I kind of hope he spills some beans about the locker room.

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Again, I would underrate the Caps at our peril. Hunter is as much of a Caps icon as Ovechkin, and I suspect he was chosen primarily because he could control the players where BB couldn't.

I would expect them to come out flying against us on Thursday. I'm also thinking he's not exactly going to reign in any chippy behavior, especially after the Asham incident the previous time these two clubs met.
I'd still take our roster over theirs any day of the week.

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Has Bruce spoke yet? I kind of hope he spills some beans about the locker room.
He's waiting until his own HBO special: "Bruce Boudreau - The Barbeque Sauce Bandit" is finalized. That way he can let the expletives fly without being censored by regular TV.

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Again, I would underrate the Caps at our peril. Hunter is as much of a Caps icon as Ovechkin, and I suspect he was chosen primarily because he could control the players where BB couldn't.

I would expect them to come out flying against us on Thursday. I'm also thinking he's not exactly going to reign in any chippy behavior, especially after the Asham incident the previous time these two clubs met.
Agreed.

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I don't see Ovechkin blossoming under a new coach. Prior to the strategy change for the Caps Bruce had a system that was taylor made for Ovechkin and it is largely the biggest reason for his gaudy stats. After seasons of superior regular season play and playoff collapses he adapted to a more balanced style but never got the rest of the guys to buy in. I don't see Dale Hunter getting that kind of production out of AO because from everything I have read is that Hunter wants a defensive system.

I think the Canes are the team that made the better coaching change today. Boudreau is ridiculed by many and I understand it's easy to with the rivalry but man I'd be lying if I didnt envy the style of play he had the caps playing prior to when he switched to a defensive style. He'll find work with another team and likely be successful there, way too much hate for the guy largely for superficial reasons like his weight.

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I don't see Ovechkin blossoming under a new coach. Prior to the strategy change for the Caps Bruce had a system that was taylor made for Ovechkin and it is largely the biggest reason for his gaudy stats. After seasons of superior regular season play and playoff collapses he adapted to a more balanced style but never got the rest of the guys to buy in. I don't see Dale Hunter getting that kind of production out of AO because from everything I have read is that Hunter wants a defensive system.

I think the Canes are the team that made the better coaching change today. Boudreau is ridiculed by many and I understand it's easy to with the rivalry but man I'd be lying if I didnt envy the style of play he had the caps playing prior to when he switched to a defensive style. He'll find work with another team and likely be successful there, way too much hate for the guy largely for superficial reasons like his weight.
Boudreau was fine when he first came in and let Ovi do what he wanted and pretty much was Ovi's b****. Then, when he woke up and realized that Ovi was part of his problem, he tried everything, except perhaps the right thing, to effect change. Is anyone really surprised that it didn't take?

I expect no different with Hunter, although it would be funny to watch his first testy one on one with Semin.

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I don't see Ovechkin blossoming under a new coach. Prior to the strategy change for the Caps Bruce had a system that was taylor made for Ovechkin and it is largely the biggest reason for his gaudy stats. After seasons of superior regular season play and playoff collapses he adapted to a more balanced style but never got the rest of the guys to buy in. I don't see Dale Hunter getting that kind of production out of AO because from everything I have read is that Hunter wants a defensive system.

I think the Canes are the team that made the better coaching change today. Boudreau is ridiculed by many and I understand it's easy to with the rivalry but man I'd be lying if I didnt envy the style of play he had the caps playing prior to when he switched to a defensive style. He'll find work with another team and likely be successful there, way too much hate for the guy largely for superficial reasons like his weight.
I like Boudreau, too. But I lost some respect when he tried to make that team into a defensive squad. That was just dumb and it was never going to work.

I think Hunter is smarter than that. He's going to play a system that caters to his best players, I suspect.

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