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01-10-2012, 12:32 PM
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Ex-champ Sean Sherk aims for spring UFC return, wants to solidify HOF credentials

http://mmajunkie.com/news/26896/ex-c...redentials.mma

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01-10-2012, 10:57 PM
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UFC 146 is on April 21st, and it's coming to Atlanta.

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01-11-2012, 02:35 AM
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If Cyborg wants to clear her name, simple, send the drink to the athletic commission, let them test it. I just don't believe they put it in drinks to LOSE weight. If they DO put roids in, show the drink and her name is cleared. Its what I would do. Like I said before, they all say "I took something over the counter". What? Tell us what you took? Help your fellow fighters not to make the same mistake by accident, just saying
Couldn't agree more. I'm so tired of people getting caught, issuing a statement, but completely lying about what in fact they did. Good to see Bas call them out.

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01-11-2012, 10:53 AM
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Ex-champ Sean Sherk aims for spring UFC return, wants to solidify HOF credentials

http://mmajunkie.com/news/26896/ex-c...redentials.mma
Fighting more than 5 times in the last 5+ years would've been a better way to solidfy his HOF credentials.

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01-11-2012, 02:04 PM
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The UFC and fighter pay will be featured on ESPN's E:60 here soon.


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01-12-2012, 01:22 PM
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Anyone who claims the UFC is a monopoly is an idiot. Shame on E:60 for airing this nonsense. If Ken Shamrock is your star witness then you're grasping at straws.

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01-12-2012, 01:46 PM
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The UFC is a "monopoly" the same way every other business that is far superior to their competition is a "monopoly".

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Things that are true:

The UFC isn't a true monopoly.
The UFC is very aggressive in absorbing or burying competitors.
The UFC is very aggressive with their fighter contract language.
The UFC doesn't pay most fighters very much money.

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01-13-2012, 12:21 AM
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The UFC is a "monopoly" the same way every other business that is far superior to their competition is a "monopoly".
The UFC controls 90% of the revenue in the sport. They may not technically be a monopoly, but that fact allows them to keep fighter pay very low--certainly far less than 50% of all revenue, which is what athletes in the big four sports receive.

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01-13-2012, 02:40 AM
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To be fair, that small clip doesn't say that the UFC is a monopoly, just that it is well on the way to becoming one, which is very true if you look at the big picture. They've been able to absorb or bury most of the competition they have faced.

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01-13-2012, 09:45 AM
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The UFC controls 90% of the revenue in the sport. They may not technically be a monopoly, but that fact allows them to keep fighter pay very low--certainly far less than 50% of all revenue, which is what athletes in the big four sports receive.
Did the show get into what percentage the fighters actually receive? I know its nearly impossible because of so many unreported bonuses, but it would be interesting.

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01-13-2012, 09:50 AM
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To be fair, that small clip doesn't say that the UFC is a monopoly, just that it is well on the way to becoming one, which is very true if you look at the big picture. They've been able to absorb or bury most of the competition they have faced.
The barrier for entry into promoting MMA is so low that the UFC will never become a monopoly. Bellator, King of the Cage, MFC & Pro Elite are reputable promotions in North America. Bellators deal with Viacom alone is enough to throw out the monopoly argument.

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The barrier for entry into promoting MMA is so low that the UFC will never become a monopoly. Bellator, King of the Cage, MFC & Pro Elite are reputable promotions in North America. Bellators deal with Viacom alone is enough to throw out the monopoly argument.
I'm not so sure that is true anymore. Unless the promotion has a huge financial backer, good fighters will always be wary because of past experiences with fighters not being paid and promotions not having proper medical insurance or something of that nature.

Its true that there are other good places to go such as Bellator, but you'll never get the exposure there that you would in the UFC and that could mean major dollars in sponsership deals.

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01-13-2012, 10:27 AM
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Its true that there are other good places to go such as Bellator, but you'll never get the exposure there that you would in the UFC and that could mean major dollars in sponsership deals.
Being the most successful promotion does not make the UFC a monopoly.

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Being the most successful promotion does not make the UFC a monopoly.
Exactly. Its the same in MMA as it is in every other business, even sports. Is the PGA tour a monopoly? The NHL? Where does it end? There are plenty of better examples of "monopolies" that I deal with every day.

I just have never gotten this "UFC monopoly" angle that people try to push. Other MMA companies in North America are making money putting on fights.

I find the business side of the sport very interesting, but this is one aspect of it that is frustrating to hear people talk about. At the end of the day, nothing will come of it anyway.

The UFC will never be legally considered a "monopoly", its just a fancy word that the media likes to use because it gets people's attention. People need to get over it and find something else to complain it. Its something that is pushed by people who have their own agenda and are anti-UFC to at least some level.

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01-13-2012, 01:38 PM
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Being the most successful promotion does not make the UFC a monopoly.
Of course it doesn't.

I think of it like the NHL. Sure you can play in the KHL and make decent money, or play in the ECHL and try and get moved up or noticed.

But everyone(Mostly) wants to play in the NHL. Same with the UFC.

Though, that being said, if you don't get a Zuffa contract for either the UFC or StrikeForce then you are probably going to Bellator or over seas. Because honestly if you're an MFC/KOTC fighter you aren't going anywhere good unless you're special and if you really are that special someone would have noticed.

If they have a monopoly on anything its talent, but that is ok when you put on a minimum of 2-3 shows a month.

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01-13-2012, 03:01 PM
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Anderson Silva says he's hurt again.

http://www.mmaconvert.com/2012/01/13...8MMAConvert%29

Maybe the "Breaking News" deal with Dana is letting people know that Sonnen/Munoz is for a interim title?

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The UFC is not a monopoly but they certainly take advantage of the lower tier fighters as far as pay equity goes.

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The UFC is not a monopoly but they certainly take advantage of the lower tier fighters as far as pay equity goes.
So what? Lower tier fighters are dime a dozen. It'd be stupid business to pay the bottom 6 guys on the card 20K each.

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01-14-2012, 10:19 AM
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The bottom six guys ate still people with bills to pay dude. A fighters life isnt cheap and 5-10 g a fight prob barely covers their camp. If they get to the big show they should be rewarded in turn.

Sweat shops are "smart business" also, doesn't make them correct.

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The bottom six guys ate still people with bills to pay dude. A fighters life isnt cheap and 5-10 g a fight prob barely covers their camp. If they get to the big show they should be rewarded in turn.
Why would anyone work at a job where they can't afford to pay their bills?

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01-14-2012, 11:32 AM
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The bottom six guys ate still people with bills to pay dude. A fighters life isnt cheap and 5-10 g a fight prob barely covers their camp. If they get to the big show they should be rewarded in turn.

Sweat shops are "smart business" also, doesn't make them correct.
Don't boxers on undercards get paid ridiculously low amount as well? Nothing seems to have changed there over the years.

Besides, it seems like most fighters make the bulk of their cash through their sponsorships. When Matt Mitrione fired his agent partly over a lack of sponsorship money his agent stated that the average fighter on the undercard received between $10,000-$20,000 in sponsorships. The low end fighters are probably still likely pulling in around $15,000 minimum to show for a fight, more if they win.

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Yeah, these guys are doing just fine. I also don't get why MMA fans feel like its their job to campaign for fighter pay. I'll worry about my pay in my profession that is paying for the PPV's, I can't get worried about whether an undercard fighter is only making 30k a year.

There are a slew of bonuses in the UFC, and for some of these guys if they get a sub/KO of the night they're cut a cheque for more than most people make in a year. Life isn't that bad.

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As a couple others have said, fighters get a lot more than just the base fight salary and win bonus money. In addition to the sponsorship money, fighters also get a portion of PPV buys and live gate money. It's also not like anybody is forcing a fighter to choose this way of life.

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Anthony Rumble Johnson released. Would give a link but I don't know how to get the direct link to tweets. Per Ariel Helwani via Dana White.

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