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09-10-2004, 03:35 PM
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Future of Phily in goal

Just wondering what are your toughts on these Phily prospects in goal?

- Bernd Bruckler

- David Tremblay

- Rejean Beauchemin

- Dov Grumet-Morris

- Roman Malek (not really a prospect but more of a will he come)

What do you know of these guys and what do you expect fron each of them

P.S. before you ask I didn't put Niittymäki cause I think he'll be number two as of this year

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I expect them all to backup Robert Esche for quite some time.

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mostly trade bait.

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mostly trade bait.

Yeah, Esche is number one

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Okay I think that's already clear... but aside from that you see any of them with NHL future???

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Okay I think that's already clear... but aside from that you see any of them with NHL future???
I think Tremblay has the most potential, for one he's from Quebec.
And for two he carried his team to the memorial cup.
I would hold on to him and see how he progresses.

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I think Tremblay has the most potential, for one he's from Quebec.
And for two he carried his team to the memorial cup.
I would hold on to him and see how he progresses.
Personally, I think Beauchemin's shown more than Tremblay. I think Tremblay benefited from a very good team. Hell, Beauchemin may be Canada's WJC goalie this year.

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Personally, I think Beauchemin's shown more than Tremblay. I think Tremblay benefited from a very good team. Hell, Beauchemin may be Canada's WJC goalie this year.
Actually, that is not a fair statement at all. Beauchemin has come A LONG way since joining the Hull Olympiques (or Gatineau Olympiques). Truth of the matter is that Tremblay is a great prospect and so is Beauchemin. The only reason why Beauchemin was called up during the Philadelphia playoff run was because Tremblay was in the middle of a playoff run himself. And I'll also add this about Tremblay. He beat some of the "great" goaltending prospects during the QMJHL playoffs. You can say all what you want about the team in front of him, but truth of the matter is that the goalie is the last line of defence and Tremblay proved every bit of his worth. As for Esche being number 1 for quite some time, I'm gonna hold off on that until Niitymaki is finally ready. Niitymaki showed last season he could step in and play with the best. Truth of the matter is that we have some very, very good goaltending prospects that we haven't had in quite some time.

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Actually, that is not a fair statement at all. Beauchemin has come A LONG way since joining the Hull Olympiques (or Gatineau Olympiques). Truth of the matter is that Tremblay is a great prospect and so is Beauchemin. The only reason why Beauchemin was called up during the Philadelphia playoff run was because Tremblay was in the middle of a playoff run himself. And I'll also add this about Tremblay. He beat some of the "great" goaltending prospects during the QMJHL playoffs. You can say all what you want about the team in front of him, but truth of the matter is that the goalie is the last line of defence and Tremblay proved every bit of his worth. As for Esche being number 1 for quite some time, I'm gonna hold off on that until Niitymaki is finally ready. Niitymaki showed last season he could step in and play with the best. Truth of the matter is that we have some very, very good goaltending prospects that we haven't had in quite some time.
I never said Tremblay sucked, but I DO feel he benefited from a great team. My statement was more high marks for Beauchemin than a Tremblay sucks comment.

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I think the Flyers are pretty content to have Esche-1 Niittymaki-2 right now.

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I never said Tremblay sucked, but I DO feel he benefited from a great team. My statement was more high marks for Beauchemin than a Tremblay sucks comment.
The funny thing is that these where the two I first wanted to ask about... but after thinking about it I decided to include all the other as well. I really like Beauchemin long term potentiel... And I too think Tremblay had a lot better team in front and therefore benefit from it... wich dosn't mean he wasn't ghood... but that sure helped him a bit

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I think the Flyers are pretty content to have Esche-1 Niittymaki-2 right now.
With Clarke as GM he will never be happy with his goalie unless Bernie comes back.

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Beauchemin and Tremblay both look to have good long-term outlooks. Don't forget about Chris Houle too. He took over Fleury's spot in Cape Breton (and posting good numbers) while M-A was sucking it up in Steeltown. Probably a bit of a project, but French-Canadian goalies can never be overlooked.

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Actually, that is not a fair statement at all. Beauchemin has come A LONG way since joining the Hull Olympiques (or Gatineau Olympiques).
I have Beauchemin as a member of the Prince Albert Raiders(?).

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The Flyers have a string of good goalies. The question is which one of them will make the next step and be exceptional. I don't think that Esche will do that. He'll be good but not the kind of goalie that can steal a late playoff series like Parent or Lindberg. Maybe one of these young guys will go down that road. Last year Nittymaki did show signs of brilliance. He might have a chance.

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The Flyers have a string of good goalies. The question is which one of them will make the next step and be exceptional. I don't think that Esche will do that. He'll be good but not the kind of goalie that can steal a late playoff series like Parent or Lindberg. Maybe one of these young guys will go down that road. Last year Nittymaki did show signs of brilliance. He might have a chance.
You didn't happen to see Esche in last year's playoffs did you? He routinely stopped 30-40 shots per game and the team won. WC performance was also something to see, pretty much all of the goals except for Kozlov's, he had no chance on. You can say a guy is an elite goalie, but I'd love to see Parent or Lindbergh try to stop Koivu at the side of the net when Koivu had no D on him and 1/2 the net to shoot at. (Not dissing Bernie or Pelle, just an example). It's too early to write off Esche.

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Beauchemin and Tremblay both look to have good long-term outlooks. Don't forget about Chris Houle too. He took over Fleury's spot in Cape Breton (and posting good numbers) while M-A was sucking it up in Steeltown. Probably a bit of a project, but French-Canadian goalies can never be overlooked.
Martin Houle plays for CB, Chris Houle plays for the Trenton Titans, and is from Ontario. BTW Fleury wasnt sucking it up.

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Ok but he didnt make the best impression

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Ok but he didnt make the best impression
His season can be described as one of those rolller coasters that goes up really high, but then drops even lower than it started.

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Martin Houle plays for CB, Chris Houle plays for the Trenton Titans, and is from Ontario. BTW Fleury wasnt sucking it up.
I stand corrected, I meant Martin, the Flyers draftee from the '04 draft.
And BTW Fleury is on my sh... um, crap-list after he fired the puck right off the Canada defender in the WJC's for the winning/losing goal. Idiot, rinks have boards for a reason.

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I stand corrected, I meant Martin, the Flyers draftee from the '04 draft.
And BTW Fleury is on my sh... um, crap-list after he fired the puck right off the Canada defender in the WJC's for the winning/losing goal. Idiot, rinks have boards for a reason.
He got Canada a silver and 2003 when they didnt even deserve medal. Dont worry he'll make up for it in a future Olympic/World Cup Im sure.

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He got Canada a silver and 2003 when they didnt even deserve medal. Dont worry he'll make up for it in a future Olympic/World Cup Im sure.
Hope so but I remember them saying the same thing about Jimmy Wait and Stefon Fiset.

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He got Canada a silver and 2003 when they didnt even deserve medal. Dont worry he'll make up for it in a future Olympic/World Cup Im sure.
Not to open a can of worms, but how can you say we didn't deserve a medal? We had a far superior team to the USA... on paper anyways. Fleury had to be our best player in the tourney and he clearly wasn't. A more accurate statement would be, "Canada got a silver in spite of Fleury's poor play."

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