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11-29-2011, 12:27 PM
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Wouldn't mind a package for Ryan from Anaheim if he is being shopped.

Anaheim receives:
Semin
Capitals 1st round pick
Schultz and/or Eakin

Capitals receives:
Ryan

I know they are up to 49 contracts so something else would need to be involved coming back.

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11-29-2011, 12:29 PM
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dashtray... dashtary? Did he fix that, like JaPSer became JaSPer all of a sudden one day after years and years?
Oh did I make a boo boo... so sorry.

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Speaking of the Ducks, Andrew Gordon has been bad.

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11-29-2011, 12:31 PM
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In addition to the Hunter gaining familiarity with the team, the dust settling, etc., something to keep in mind is the holiday roster freeze other than LTIR returns and call-ups as needed for a short period starting approx. three weeks from now:

NHL holiday roster freeze: Dec 19 midnight to Dec 27 midnight.

Caps schedule after tonight:

DEC 1, 2011 PENGUINS CAPITALS
DEC 3, 2011 SENATORS CAPITALS
DEC 5, 2011 CAPITALS PANTHERS
DEC 7, 2011 CAPITALS SENATORS
DEC 9, 2011 MAPLE LEAFS CAPITALS
DEC 13, 2011 FLYERS CAPITALS
DEC 15, 2011 CAPITALS JETS
DEC 17, 2011 CAPITALS AVALANCHE

then 3 games during the holiday roster freeze:

DEC 20, 2011 PREDATORS CAPITALS
DEC 23, 2011 CAPITALS DEVILS
DEC 26, 2011 CAPITALS SABRES

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11-29-2011, 12:35 PM
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Speaking of the Ducks, Andrew Gordon has been bad.
The whole team has been bad.

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11-29-2011, 12:50 PM
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Speaking of the Ducks, Andrew Gordon has been bad.
Most Ducks fans I've spoken with have been satisfied with his overall play and work ethic, but are growing frustrated with his lack of production. But the whole team isn't producing and he's not exactly with high-end linemates.

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11-29-2011, 01:07 PM
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Oh did I make a boo boo... so sorry.
Weird, I always read it as Dashtray.

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11-29-2011, 01:44 PM
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3 30 goal seasons as a 24 year old. Legitimate power forward.

Not sure how he's overrated. He's a younger, better player than Semin on a better contract.
Not sure the stats agree with you. He's more durable and has played more games per season, but per game stats Semin is right up there if not ahead. Also his +/- is generally higher, even last season when Anaheim was good.

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11-29-2011, 02:30 PM
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Not sure if this is the right place to post - but anyone betting on how long Semin lasts under Hunter if he doesn't step up?

I'd love to see David Perron in a caps jersey. Not sure how much we'd have to pay the Blues to take Semin from us, though.

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11-29-2011, 02:45 PM
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Semin for Stuart + 2nd

Perreault + Kuznetsov + Neuvirth + Schultz + Was 1st + Bos 2nd for Iginla + Bourque

Hamrlik + Det 2nd + Brett Flemming for Gleason

OV-Mojo-Brouwer
Bourque-Backstrom-Iginla
Chimera-Laich-Ward
Hendricks-Halpern-Knuble

Stuart-Green
Alzner-Carlson
Gleason-Wideman
Erskine-Orlov

Great lineup

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11-29-2011, 04:31 PM
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Wouldn't mind a package for Ryan from Anaheim if he is being shopped.

Anaheim receives:
Semin
Capitals 1st round pick
Schultz and/or Eakin

Capitals receives:
Ryan

I know they are up to 49 contracts so something else would need to be involved coming back.
I would much rather use that for a defenseman.

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11-29-2011, 04:36 PM
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Semin for Stuart + 2nd

Perreault + Kuznetsov + Neuvirth + Schultz + Was 1st + Bos 2nd for Iginla + Bourque

Hamrlik + Det 2nd + Brett Flemming for Gleason

OV-Mojo-Brouwer
Bourque-Backstrom-Iginla
Chimera-Laich-Ward
Hendricks-Halpern-Knuble

Stuart-Green
Alzner-Carlson
Gleason-Wideman
Erskine-Orlov

Great lineup
Looks pretty good to me. Getting two forwards with size that will finish checks and win puck battles. The defense get some muscle and experience. Might not even need Stuart, just get Gleason and keep Orlov. Trade Semin for a NHL ready defensive prospect.

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11-29-2011, 04:38 PM
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I would much rather use that for a defenseman.
Agreed, though in the coming weeks I want to see how much of the problems were a result of the system and how much was a result of personnel. On paper they look good with Alzner-Carlson, Orlov-Green, Erskine-Wideman (if I had a say) and even Hammer if we can get his confidence back but yeah right now I would much rather get a defenseman.

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11-29-2011, 04:46 PM
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Wouldn't mind a package for Ryan from Anaheim if he is being shopped.

Anaheim receives:
Semin
Capitals 1st round pick
Schultz and/or Eakin

Capitals receives:
Ryan

I know they are up to 49 contracts so something else would need to be involved coming back.
I don't see why the Ducks would do it, nor will Ryan fix our 2nd line.

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11-29-2011, 04:48 PM
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Semin for Stuart + 2nd

Perreault + Kuznetsov + Neuvirth + Schultz + Was 1st + Bos 2nd for Iginla + Bourque

Hamrlik + Det 2nd + Brett Flemming for Gleason

OV-Mojo-Brouwer
Bourque-Backstrom-Iginla
Chimera-Laich-Ward
Hendricks-Halpern-Knuble

Stuart-Green
Alzner-Carlson
Gleason-Wideman
Erskine-Orlov

Great lineup
Not sure I like Kuznetsov in there. I realize that's what it would take, but if this guy turns out to be a stud trading Semin alone may make us complete.

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11-29-2011, 04:51 PM
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this is probably nitpiking, but an nhl ready defenseman prospect would be hard to find a place for if you hope to have any experience balance. weve been thru this for years now.

the caps have alzner and carlson who are babies, not veterans. they will not be established veterans for years. add orlov by next season and thats half a starting 6.
that is the max. period.

there is no room for a legit, nhl prospect on defense

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11-29-2011, 04:58 PM
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Meh, I don't think that trades and acquisitions will fix this team. Most of our core is struggling (with the exception of Backstrom and Alzner). They display a lack of fundamentals, and a lack of hockey IQ. Ryan or Iginla or anyone else will not make muchof a difference. Instead of making big trades we should concentrate on fixing what we already have.

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11-29-2011, 05:17 PM
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this is probably nitpiking, but an nhl ready defenseman prospect would be hard to find a place for if you hope to have any experience balance. weve been thru this for years now.

the caps have alzner and carlson who are babies, not veterans. they will not be established veterans for years. add orlov by next season and thats half a starting 6.
that is the max. period.

there is no room for a legit, nhl prospect on defense
What we've been through, imo, is players called defensemen that cannot play defense. I'm not talking about Alzner or Carlson. I'm talking about the other guys. Jurcina, Morrison, Schultz, Pothier, Corvo are fringe NHL defensemen. Poti and Erskine do ok. Orlov is just a baby Cap and already playing great. Right now we have 5 NHL caliber defensemen (Alzner, Carlson, Green, Orlov, Erskine) playing and we need the depth on the Caps home and farm team. Hamrlik is an established veteran and he is terrible. He just decided to play longer than he can. I would much rather go with a faster, enthusiastic youngster than keep giving these washed up veterans a chance. Sadly, Schultz is considered a veteran . There would be room if GMGM gets past his fascination with Schultz. For the time being I'm going to give Schultz a chance under DH, but he has already been scratched so that tells me DH is unimpressed or going with the established, tenured veteran in Hamrlik.

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11-29-2011, 05:24 PM
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Interesting that Sjogren is thinking of returning to Sweden. Especially now that we have a coaching change and his physicality may be more appreciated.

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It's becoming obvious to me that a big problem with the Caps as they are currently constructed is:

Chimera = Laich = Knuble = Ward = Brouwer

I'll wait and see what Hunter can teach them, but none have ever been particularly good when it comes to puck possession and are all extremely similar players.

Very, very one note.

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Interesting that Sjogren is thinking of returning to Sweden. Especially now that we have a coaching change and his physicality may be more appreciated.
i was checking bourque's stats earlier this evening before this came out and i noticed that sjogren was -6. i think he's struggling and not enjoying the ahl.

i really wonder whether he signed to come to NA with the idea that he very well might be in the A. i dont think that was his idea of what was the plan.

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Sjogren doesn't have the footspeed to excel in a more up-tempo environment. If everyone else is really going maybe but as it is wingers like Hendricks & Knuble aren't that fast either.

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Interesting that Sjogren is thinking of returning to Sweden. Especially now that we have a coaching change and his physicality may be more appreciated.
he's getting bad advice, sounds like. given who his agent is, i'm not remotely surprised.

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11-29-2011, 09:32 PM
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i think he probably was locked into an nhl job with a couple other teams and they blew it. particularly when he failed to outplay perreautl in camp

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Since it's a two year deal, and this is an out-clause rather than contract termination, might as well see what he can do next year. He wasn't exactly forcing the Caps to call him up with his play. Disappointing in that the longer Beagle's out, the nicer it would be to have a Sjogren type available to call up. But I can't say would have wanted them to call him up by now, especially if it was just to keep him in NA.

I mean, does anyone think he'd be happy if he chose to stick around due to an early callup, then was stashed in Hershey the rest of the season? (Would depend on the wording of his out clause of course but I'm assuming there was some sort of decision point put in and that's why this is happening now; maybe not though.)

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