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11-29-2011, 12:38 PM
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Is Gleason really the one you guys want to move?

I thought he was pretty solid, affordable and dependable.

Aren't you guys pretty soft on D beyond him (other than Allen)?

(not trolling, legitimate question)
Well, nobody wants Kaberle and trading someone like Joslin or Allen probably won't get the return we're looking for.

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11-29-2011, 01:18 PM
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Well, nobody wants Kaberle and trading someone like Joslin or Allen probably won't get the return we're looking for.
+ Gleason will be UFA

As a Hawks fan I would love Gleason on team ,, But I think Canes will give Muller some time to see if he can turn ship around before making any roster shakeups

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11-29-2011, 01:19 PM
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I think Kaberle would work great in Chicago's system, especially being insulated by their other big guys.

Although, I also thought he'd work well in Carolina and that's been a tire-fire so far, so I might be completely out to lunch.

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11-29-2011, 01:25 PM
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i'd guess probably a pick or a prospect ...

a dman like Kuba, Komisarek, etc could come cheap .... they both have improved drastically this season ....

i could see the Hawks tossing a mid-pick/prospect for either of them
In whos world are Kuba or Komisarek a marque defensman?

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11-29-2011, 01:28 PM
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I think Kaberle would work great in Chicago's system, especially being insulated by their other big guys.

Although, I also thought he'd work well in Carolina and that's been a tire-fire so far, so I might be completely out to lunch.
Kaberle is hot garbage and 2 more years at 4.25M is horrendous

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11-29-2011, 01:32 PM
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In whos world are Kuba or Komisarek a marque defensman?
In what world other than the OP's did anyone credible introduce the word "marquee?"

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11-29-2011, 01:50 PM
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They were more like the #15/16 PK in the league prior to those two blowouts.

The Hawks don't give up a whole lot of goals on the PK because they are rarely short handed, but their PK% sucks and is sensitive because of the low number of opportunities.
No, they had the #1 PK prior to the first game against Vancouver.

Due to their several blowout losses, their PK numbers and percentage look significantly worse than they actually are.

Not that they're actually #1 good, but on a game-to-game basis, they're not actually #30 bad.


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Jay-Bo, Kaberle, Visnovsky are the best ideas so far.

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11-29-2011, 02:18 PM
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Jay-Bo, Kaberle, Visnovsky are the best ideas so far.
If Gleason is available and UFA, then he's a great option too...

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11-29-2011, 02:19 PM
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Jay-Bo, Kaberle, Visnovsky are the best ideas so far.
Two of the three eat the valuable cap space the Hawks got with the Campbell trade. Not the type of dmen I think they need. Maybe Beauchemin from Ana?

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Maybe they shouldn't have traded Brian Campbell.

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Maybe they shouldn't have traded Brian Campbell.
They had to or risk disrupting keeping their core together long term

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11-29-2011, 02:35 PM
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Maybe they shouldn't have traded Brian Campbell.
Leddy has replaced Campbell as PMD and is coming along nicely

+ Cap room >>>> No Cap room and constant cap hell

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11-29-2011, 02:49 PM
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Kaberle is hot garbage and 2 more years at 4.25M is horrendous
Marquee doesn't necessarily mean good, it just means recognizable. And Kaberle is much more recognizable than Gleason.

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Frolik for Gleason

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11-29-2011, 03:05 PM
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Marquee doesn't necessarily mean good, it just means recognizable. And Kaberle is much more recognizable than Gleason.
Oh, come on.

In this context it clearly means top-end. They didn't free up $ simply to get a recognizable name. They aren't looking for an after-dinner speaker, they need someone to contribute on the blue line.

Kaberle wouldn't even qualify for an after-dinner speaker but he could be mistaken for gelatin.

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Marquee doesn't necessarily mean good, it just means recognizable. And Kaberle is much more recognizable than Gleason.
May as well sign Owen Nolan then. The Hawks are looking for the kind of players that are the good marquee, not just in name only.

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11-29-2011, 03:12 PM
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And also, regarding Kaberle, the Hawks had the space to sign him and chose not to so they're not going to trade for him only months later.

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11-29-2011, 03:20 PM
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Bieksa + for Bolland


I'd love to have Bolland though. That guy just kills the Canucks ever playoffs.

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Bieksa + for Bolland


I'd love to have Bolland though. That guy just kills the Canucks ever playoffs.
The orca hunter, sharpening his spear somewhere in Chicago right now.

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11-29-2011, 04:55 PM
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Frolik for Gleason
I would do it (Even add a 2nd or prospect)

I am a Frolik fan and his D game has developed but he gets no PP time and no top 6 chances

He cant create much offense playing 3rd line shutdown role

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11-29-2011, 05:01 PM
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espn rumour,

Hawks may trade for marquee d-man
They now have the cap space to do so.

who might that be?

Anyone else hear it? Read it on Twitter as well.

MOD EDIT: SUPPORTING LINK
Brian Campbell?

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11-29-2011, 05:06 PM
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Brian Campbell?
Brian Campbell
23 GP
2 goals
17 assists
19 pts
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TOI = 26:38
32 yrs old = 7.1M+ cap hit for this year and next 4

Nick Leddy
24 GP
2 goals
14 assists
16 pts
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TOI = 22:07
20 yrs old = 1.116M+ cap hit for this year and next (Then a RFA)

Hawks aren't missing Campbell and his contract

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11-29-2011, 05:12 PM
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Jay-Bo, Kaberle, Visnovsky are the best ideas so far.
Aside from Visnovsky, those are horrible ideas.

Bouwmeester? Why? and for 6.5mil when they just unloaded another overpaid Dman for 7mil.

Kaberle? The same guy they decided to not offer a contract in the offseason? Suddendly they will trade away assets for him + his horrendous contract?

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Maybe they shouldn't have traded Brian Campbell.
Why? They don't lack a PMD, who is soft. They need a big physical guy who can PK, Campbell doesn't fit either of those descriptions and is overpaid for too many years.

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I would do it (Even add a 2nd or prospect)

I am a Frolik fan and his D game has developed but he gets no PP time and no top 6 chances

He cant create much offense playing 3rd line shutdown role
In a heart beat, get's us out of that contract...which I was not a fan of from the beginning, and adds a grizzled vet who is physical and PK's.

I would even add a 3rd rounder too if necessary.

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If people could please stop saying Brian Campbell and marquee Dman, because Campbell isn't needed or wanted, and marquee was never in the rumour.

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