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11-28-2011, 11:51 PM
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Kris Letang

Clearly the Pens have no intention of trading Kris Letang (nor should they) but I'm curious to see what you guys think his value is.

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More than Bobby Ryan if that's your implication.

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More than Bobby Ryan if that's your implication.
lol it is not. This is merely a curiosity thread.

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More than Ryan? Ehhhh that's a tough one. Not sure, but I'd be wide open on hearing arguments either way. Dmen are more coveted that's for sure.

Wow if the Penguins traded Letang there'd be a gaping hole in their defense. I don't really see how we could part with him realistically. Plus consider the salary. You're not improving on him for the same price.

Lastly, and it goes with every Penguin trade thread: The Penguins don't need to do anything. I suppose they could tweak the D but the deal would have to be perfectly timed and involve very specific players.

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11-29-2011, 12:15 AM
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More than Bobby Ryan if that's your implication.

That's not true.

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11-29-2011, 12:20 AM
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Letang will most likely hang right around the #20-#30th best dman in the league for the next 5-10 years making him easily a true #1 dman. They are highly valuable and worth a typical top line forward (in the bottom 1/3rd or top liners that is). His value is a trade would probably be pretty close to what Mike Richards or Jeff Carter returned (top prospect not in the NHL + 2nd/3rd liner or a 2nd liner with 1st line potential + top 10 pick in a typical draft, slightly later in a strong draft like this year). He probably holds more value to the Pens than what they could get in return and the only way he'd be dealt is if they either needed to shake things up (ala the Ducks this year if they DO trade one of their big 3) or if they had 2 other top pairing dmen who have climbed the chain and are ready to push him out making him expendable the way guys like JVR and Giroux did with Carter and Richards in Philly.

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That's not true.
#1 two way D-man on a steal of a contract is always more valuable than a 30+ goal sniper even if he's on a good contract himself.

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More than Bobby Ryan if that's your implication.


You can't even speculate on that until we see if Ryan gets traded and what he actually returns in said trade.

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I don't need to speculate. It's the way the NHL works. Gogo is not worth Neal from a pure value standpoint, but puck moving D-men are in demand and therfore that trade occurs.

I'm not saying Letang's value is far beyond Ryan's, but Anaheim would most certainly be adding.

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I agree that Letang is worth more than Ryan.

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Letang will most likely hang right around the #20-#30th best dman in the league for the next 5-10 years making him easily a true #1 dman. They are highly valuable and worth a typical top line forward (in the bottom 1/3rd or top liners that is). His value is a trade would probably be pretty close to what Mike Richards or Jeff Carter returned (top prospect not in the NHL + 2nd/3rd liner or a 2nd liner with 1st line potential + top 10 pick in a typical draft, slightly later in a strong draft like this year). He probably holds more value to the Pens than what they could get in return and the only way he'd be dealt is if they either needed to shake things up (ala the Ducks this year if they DO trade one of their big 3) or if they had 2 other top pairing dmen who have climbed the chain and are ready to push him out making him expendable the way guys like JVR and Giroux did with Carter and Richards in Philly.
20-30...really?

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11-29-2011, 12:53 AM
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Letang definitely has more value then Ryan.

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A top 20-30 dman? He's already a top 10 at the grand old age of 24.

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Letang is NOT elite, no matter what you guys want to think.

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Letang is NOT elite, no matter what you guys want to think.
I wouldn't put him on par with Weber or Chara that's for sure, but he's better than #20-30. I'd put him in the #7-15 range league wide.

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Letang is NOT elite, no matter what you guys want to think.
True, like many young defensemen he has stuff to work on and get better at. But he's made huge strides and you can't honestly list 29 better dmen out there.

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Last year I thought he was overrated. I consider him a top 15 dman in the league. Somewhere between 5-15. I don't feel like listing players.

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He's worth more than anyone would be willing to pay, let's put it that way.

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Letang is NOT elite, no matter what you guys want to think.
He's 2nd in scoring among defenseman, has a good +/-, gets about 2 min of PK time a game, and has 37 hits in 23 games (as proficient as any scoring defenseman in the league).

That's besides the fact that he finished 6th in Norris voting last season.

So the idea of Letang being an elite defenseman is really anything but a minority opinion held by Pens fans. It's the opinion of the majority of professional observers around the league, and it's borne out in the stats.

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He's 2nd in scoring among defenseman, has a good +/-, gets about 2 min of PK time a game, and has 37 hits in 23 games (as proficient as any scoring defenseman in the league).

That's besides the fact that he finished 6th in Norris voting last season.

So the idea of Letang being an elite defenseman is really anything but a minority opinion held by Pens fans. It's the opinion of the majority of professional observers around the league, and it's borne out in the stats.
It depends on how you define elite. For me it's Lidstrom, Chara and Weber. I don't think Letang is there yet. He's more in the Keith, Doughty, Yandle category.

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If both teams had the need:

Kesler

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I'd offer Marc Staal + 1st/2nd depending

Especially since NHL could use a high quality offensive dman.

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Kesler

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I wouldn't trade Kesler ever if I were the Canucks. I hate that pos.....

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It depends on how you define elite. For me it's Lidstrom, Chara and Weber. I don't think Letang is there yet. He's more in the Keith, Doughty, Yandle category.
Certainly better than the "20-30" range that was suggested in this thread. Especially since that was projected for the next 5-10 years, and Letang is already top 10 by almost anyone's reasoning, at 24.

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Certainly better than the "20-30" range that was suggested in this thread. Especially since that was projected for the next 5-10 years, and Letang is already top 10 by almost anyone's reasoning, at 24.
Debatable. I put him there I think, but you could make a case for him not being top 10 too. I don't think you can reasonably put him outside the top 15, but he's not Chara or Weber either.

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