As much as I like the guy, and wouldn't mind seeing the Caps look into it, there's no way a deal could be found without Carlson/Alzner (from a Ducks perspective) or maybe Johansson, and I'm not willing to do that.
I won't argue with you because your a rangers fan but explain to me why is Callahan so much better than Dubinsky since Dubinsky always puts up more points than him and can also play on pp and pk. Plus he has better hands and a better vision. Only thing is Callahan is more of a power forward than Dubinsky and hit a lot more.
I think if you put them both on the market the return would be similar.
Don't get me wrong i like Callahan but from the 40 plus games i'v seen of him and Dubinsky Dubinsky impressed me more.
I won't make a debate here but IMO their value is pretty close and would be clearly missed by the rangers if injured.
Callahan is much more consistent, much better defensively, and a much smarter player. He's also a far better goal scorer than Dubinsky.
Dubinsky is a fine player, don't get me wrong; but, over the course of a full season, Callahan is going to put up more goals and points than Dubinsky. Dubinsky had 54 points in 77 games last year; Callahan, 48 in 60. Was on pace for 60+ points and 30+ goals.
Also, Dubinsky is now on the 4th line for the Rangers. He's really struggled to score goals - he'll eventually get his game back, but he could use a kick in the ass.
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Is Anaheim trying to salvage the season or are they looking toward the near future with this deal?
Gotta be both.
Some of the "futures" based offers on here while impressive, really aren't what the Ducks need. They have to find a deal that simply means change, without catering more or less towards short term or long term than Bobby Ryan currently does.
Originally Posted by SpezDispenser
Yeah, maybe actually. As you suggest, Grabovski's value in this specific deal would be limited, so if Toronto added a big piece to him and Kulemin, like a Kadri, then yeah, Anaheim would have to stop and consider that IMO.
That would suck though...
Actually... if Grabovski is to hold the most value to any team in this league right now, Anaheim might be one of them. With a solid two-way guy like Koivu as the #3, what Anaheim really needs is a highly creative #2, and you don't get much more creative & productive for $3m than Mikhail Grabovski. Of course, he's an impending UFA which limits his value, but he's still a really attractive piece to a team like Anaheim.
If Anaheim's goal was to get back into the hunt this season without mortaging the future, and Toronto dangled Grabovski, Kulemin AND Kadri, Anaheim would have to do more than stop & consider. That's a deal you make in a heartbeat if you're prepared to trade Ryan, as nobody else is really in a position to give up two relatively young bonafide top 6 forwards on good contracts, who fit your needs perfectly, + a high end prospect like Kadri.
Maybe you throw in Cogliano and a conditional pick if Grabo walks, and that's a deal that looks great for both teams.
If they're "blowing it up", like most of the offers here would suggest, then they might aswell trade Getzlaf, Perry, Koivu or Selanne.
Originally Posted by Avs44
That's also a real good idea... if they can somehow find a way to balance the salaries. (long term as well). Stasty's $6.6m may be slightly too much of a pill to swallow for the Ducks.
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