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Ducks shopping Bobby Ryan (Speculation at this time)

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11-28-2011, 11:00 PM
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I'm hoping this doesn't happen, as i'm sure i'll hate the return.

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Shot in the dark:
Dubinsky
Anisimov
Zucarello
Kreider
McIlrath
1st
Too much, and too many contracts for Anaheim anyway.

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Krejci + the providence bruins?

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The only deal I can see happening is Staal+Niskanen for Ryan. That's really all that makes sense for both sides.

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As much as I like the guy, and wouldn't mind seeing the Caps look into it, there's no way a deal could be found without Carlson/Alzner (from a Ducks perspective) or maybe Johansson, and I'm not willing to do that.

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I won't argue with you because your a rangers fan but explain to me why is Callahan so much better than Dubinsky since Dubinsky always puts up more points than him and can also play on pp and pk. Plus he has better hands and a better vision. Only thing is Callahan is more of a power forward than Dubinsky and hit a lot more.

I think if you put them both on the market the return would be similar.

Don't get me wrong i like Callahan but from the 40 plus games i'v seen of him and Dubinsky Dubinsky impressed me more.

I won't make a debate here but IMO their value is pretty close and would be clearly missed by the rangers if injured.
Callahan is much more consistent, much better defensively, and a much smarter player. He's also a far better goal scorer than Dubinsky.

Dubinsky is a fine player, don't get me wrong; but, over the course of a full season, Callahan is going to put up more goals and points than Dubinsky. Dubinsky had 54 points in 77 games last year; Callahan, 48 in 60. Was on pace for 60+ points and 30+ goals.

Also, Dubinsky is now on the 4th line for the Rangers. He's really struggled to score goals - he'll eventually get his game back, but he could use a kick in the ass.

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Grabovski + Kulemin + Gunnarson
Well if that's what it would take, then I don't want bobby ryan anymore...

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You win. Everything. Ever. Thank you.

Kadri + 2 of the Grabovski Line + 1st rounder

for

Ryan
(random place fillers for roster problems)

Dont shoot it down, seeing as how bad Burkie fleeced the Ducks with the Lupul trade.

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The main thought here should be quality, not quantity, as has been the majority of these fairy tale deals.

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Too much, and too many contracts for Anaheim anyway.
What's their contract limit?

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Then Ottawa doesn't acquire Ryan.

Most teams would top what is, essentially:

A third line winger
A potentially high first rounder (between 5-15)
A #5/#6 defenseman
A very solid prospect

The only thing in there that would probably entice Murray is the first, and maybe Noesen.
If that's not enough Ottawa won't make the move. We're not going to give up what we've been building at the back-end for Ryan.

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LOL at Zibanejad being untouchable in a trade for Ryan.

It would take either Rundblad+ or Cowen+.

I think a CBJ-ANA deal centered around Carter for Ryan makes the most sense. Carter and Richards can party together again in SoCal, to the delight of their coaches.
When did I say anyone was untouchable? I'm saying that they wouldn't be moved. Rundblad, Cowen and Zibanejad will not be moved.

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Vancouver offers Ballard, Higgins and a 3rd in 2012.

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Is Anaheim trying to salvage the season or are they looking toward the near future with this deal?
Gotta be both.

Some of the "futures" based offers on here while impressive, really aren't what the Ducks need. They have to find a deal that simply means change, without catering more or less towards short term or long term than Bobby Ryan currently does.

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Yeah, maybe actually. As you suggest, Grabovski's value in this specific deal would be limited, so if Toronto added a big piece to him and Kulemin, like a Kadri, then yeah, Anaheim would have to stop and consider that IMO.

That would suck though...
Actually... if Grabovski is to hold the most value to any team in this league right now, Anaheim might be one of them. With a solid two-way guy like Koivu as the #3, what Anaheim really needs is a highly creative #2, and you don't get much more creative & productive for $3m than Mikhail Grabovski. Of course, he's an impending UFA which limits his value, but he's still a really attractive piece to a team like Anaheim.

If Anaheim's goal was to get back into the hunt this season without mortaging the future, and Toronto dangled Grabovski, Kulemin AND Kadri, Anaheim would have to do more than stop & consider. That's a deal you make in a heartbeat if you're prepared to trade Ryan, as nobody else is really in a position to give up two relatively young bonafide top 6 forwards on good contracts, who fit your needs perfectly, + a high end prospect like Kadri.

Maybe you throw in Cogliano and a conditional pick if Grabo walks, and that's a deal that looks great for both teams.

If they're "blowing it up", like most of the offers here would suggest, then they might aswell trade Getzlaf, Perry, Koivu or Selanne.

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Ryan




Stastny
Gaunce
That's also a real good idea... if they can somehow find a way to balance the salaries. (long term as well). Stasty's $6.6m may be slightly too much of a pill to swallow for the Ducks.


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To Anaheim:

D Erik Gudbranson
C Shawn Matthias
2012 1st round pick

To Florida:

LW Bobby Ryan

Fair trade?

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Shot in the dark:
Dubinsky
Anisimov
Zucarello
Kreider
McIlrath
1st
Wayyy, wayyy, WAYYYY too much. That's Two top-6 forwards, two top-tier prospects, a first, and a solid young offensive player for Bobby Ryan; Ryan is great, but this isn't Ovechkin or Crosby.

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Who did you give up for him? Lol

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Shot in the dark:
Dubinsky
Anisimov
Zucarello
Kreider
McIlrath
1st
nooooooooooooooo. Come on man that is way to much. You can't give up 2 recent 1st rounders and a upcoming one , 2 key young members of the team and just throw in Zuccarello

3 of those pieces sure

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To Chicago:

Bobby Ryan

To Ducks:

Brent Seabrook
Marcus Kruger
No way. Chicago has defensive problems as it is. Seabrook is going no where.

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Jordan Staal
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It'll be a little more than this from Buffalo.
We may do something along these lines, if healthy....

Drew Stafford
Brad Boyes
Mike Weber or MA Gragnani
Wait, what you offered is worse... How about

Stafford + Boyes + Pysyk/Weber/Gragnani + 1st

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Jordan Staal
Paul Martin
Staal and Martin is way too much. Plus Paul has a NTC. Doubt he's gonna want to go to Anaheim this year.

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Shot in the dark:
Dubinsky
Anisimov
Zucarello
Kreider
McIlrath
1st
Way too much man.

D + A + M + 1 and Murray would be idiotic to deny that.

I think D + A + 1 might even get it done.

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From Pens, 1st, 2nd, Depres, Kennedy, Bennett. Too much? Too little?

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Buffalo would seem like the most likely destination.
A team with an over abundance of depth at wing and defense.

A deal can be done between these 2 teams and both Anaheim and Buffalo would walk away winners.

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Shot in the dark:

To

Bobby Ryan

To

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