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11-29-2011, 12:39 PM
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hopefully burke can find a way to fleece them

Like Beauchemen for Gardner, Lupol and a 4th rounder?

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11-29-2011, 12:40 PM
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We have nothing to trade for Ryan, other than 1st round draft picks and we all know how bad that turned out last time.
I hope you're kidding because, for the right price everyone is available besides Kessel and Phaneuf.

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Stay away from Ryan. We don't need him. Especially for $5.1mill for the next 3 seasons.

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11-29-2011, 12:41 PM
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There's no need to give up any significant assets for Bobby Ryan right now. The Leafs aren't going to win the Cup in their first playoff experience. Let the kids get a taste of the playoffs, to learn what it takes to win and what kind of sacrifices you have to make to succeed in the post-season.
This. He's not even a centerman. Yes he is still a very good player, but if it's not addressing our biggest hole, why trade?

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11-29-2011, 12:43 PM
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i would lol if a trade was made and lupul was going back the other way

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11-29-2011, 12:44 PM
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This. He's not even a centerman. Yes he is still a very good player, but if it's not addressing our biggest hole, why trade?
1 Bobby Ryan can be used to trade for 1 Paul Stastny, for example

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11-29-2011, 12:46 PM
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If we have to give up WAY too much then it's not worth it. If we have to give a little more than other teams are offering, I'm all for it.

Players like Ryan aren't available very often in the league. The last time Ryan threads were all over this boards were because he turned RFA and Burke had drafted him, people around here went crazy.

Right now the situation is a whole lot different, he's actually being shopped.

Having Kessel and Ryan is 2/3rds of the problem solved for our first line for the foreseeable future. Now given how talented these two are, you don't even need a legit #1C, if Colborne can become a steady consistent player.

Also, Cox is wrong, Ryan does have a physical part in his game. He has ~37 hits so far in 23 games, that's more than Lupul + Kessel combined.
"Also, Cox is wrong, Ryan does have a physical part in his game. He has ~37 hits so far in 23 games, that's more than Lupul + Kessel"

LOL at you even trying to make an argument using this example.... Really???

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11-29-2011, 12:48 PM
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Lupol is good for the buds...don't even consider him.

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"Also, Cox is wrong, Ryan does have a physical part in his game. He has ~37 hits so far in 23 games, that's more than Lupul + Kessel"

LOL at you even trying to make an argument using this example.... Really???
I think if you look at our roster, a Malone type PWF wouldn't be able to keep up. We need size but that size has to have hands and skating or they'll never get into the zone fast enough to help out down low.

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11-29-2011, 12:50 PM
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Or...Lupul, Gardiner and a pick for Ryan
Lupul > Ryan

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Schenn + Gunnarsson + Colborne is what it would take I bet; and in my opinion there is no call back from the Leafs.

With the Ducks looking for a stabilizing force on their second line, an ideal second/first line center, its a non-starter for the Leafs, and I hate to say it.

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11-29-2011, 12:56 PM
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Lupol is good for the buds...don't even consider him.
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Lupul > Ryan
you both missed the joke...

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We have nothing to trade for Ryan, other than 1st round draft picks and we all know how bad that turned out last time.
I disagree. We have Schenn, Kadri etc.

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11-29-2011, 12:58 PM
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Anaheim doesn't HAVE to trade him.

They'll create a bidding war and get what they want.







That's not me btw, but the guy likely doesn't even wanna play here. Even in 2010 when there were rumors, he said something like "If I get one more e-mail about a Toronto rumor, I'll lose it".
That doesn't mean he doesn't want to play here. It just means he was annoyed being asked the same question over and over.

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11-29-2011, 12:59 PM
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Build something around phaneuf for ryan. Phaneuf is overrated. Curious what it'd take for Ryan and Fowler. Phaneuf+ what?

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We have nothing to trade for Ryan, other than 1st round draft picks and we all know how bad that turned out last time.
You are kidding right?

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I can't wait to see how this situation will unfold. The Ducks are too young to rebuild, too financially strapped to dump their coach and lack depth. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the Ducks shake up their team with a quantity deal in an effort to get back into the playoff picture this year to ensure their attendance doesn't drop off. I'm not so sure this team is prepared to tank this year.

I think their problem narrows down the list of compatible teams substantially. Our history with Anaheim and our depth make us a compatible trading partner, but I doubt we're wanting to make big changes right now while the team is winning.

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11-29-2011, 01:00 PM
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I have heard that Burke is in talks with Anaheim. (Take it for what its worth as usual)

Whether or not these discussions amount to anything is yet to be seen, and its really not easy to get a gauge as to what the pieces would be in discussion.

But we can all imagine and hope.

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Build something around phaneuf for ryan. Phaneuf is overrated. Curious what it'd take for Ryan and Fowler. Phaneuf+ what?
Yeah he's very overrated...Let's trade him back and get Hagman.

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11-29-2011, 01:00 PM
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Build something around phaneuf for ryan. Phaneuf is overrated. Curious what it'd take for Ryan and Fowler. Phaneuf+ what?
This team needs Phaneuf more than it needs Bobby Ryan given what assets it'll take to get him.

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11-29-2011, 01:01 PM
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Schenn + Gunnarsson + Colborne is what it would take I bet; and in my opinion there is no call back from the Leafs.

With the Ducks looking for a stabilizing force on their second line, an ideal second/first line center, its a non-starter for the Leafs, and I hate to say it.
Why would we do this right now

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11-29-2011, 01:03 PM
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Thats Phaneuf of that

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What the Ducks want, and what teams offer are two different things. I'm sure the Ducks want Schenn, Kadri, Percy and a first. Doesn't mean it'll be offered, and let's be honest here, it shouldn't. Ryan is a good young player, but he's not a superstar. He's not even an all-star. He's not particularly physical nor does he have a strong two-way presence, as Cox pointed out. Neither is he a game-breaker. He's a big-body that can put up 30-40 goals a season and just as many assists. He's also currently struggling, and not earning his paycheque. Valuable overall given his potential, but whoever trades for him is unlikely to put forth a huge offer.

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I have heard that Burke is in talks with Anaheim. (Take it for what its worth as usual)

Whether or not these discussions amount to anything is yet to be seen, and its really not easy to get a gauge as to what the pieces would be in discussion.

But we can all imagine and hope.
Burke is probably dealing directly with Anaheim's ownership.


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You are kidding right?
I was kidding about having nothing to trade, but not about how bad it turned out.

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