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11-29-2011, 03:30 PM
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Justin Braun to Worcester 11/29

No link yet but my source is batting 1.000 in two seasons so I'm confident enough to report it.

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11-29-2011, 03:32 PM
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Ouch, 2 bad plays last night and he gets the boot.

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And Demers rests easy now.

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It's now being reported on theahl.com.

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Ouch. Come back better than ever JB.

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Hope Braun comes back to the big club soon.

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Roster space for Niitty?

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I think that fact he's the only guy on the roster that doesn't need to clear waivers is the main reason he was sent back to Worcester.

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Roster space for Niitty?
They won't need roster space for Niitty for at least a couple more weeks...

I'm guessing they just want to get both he and Demers some consistent playing time.

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Shepppppppparddddddddd!!! ... :-D

We just fixed our 3rd line problems guys ...

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I think that fact he's the only guy on the roster that doesn't need to clear waivers is the main reason he was sent back to Worcester.
This, add he finally had a game that provided the coaches with a reason to send him down. He will be back for the last 20 games or so and playoffs.

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I'm ok with it. Let Demers find his game, let braun get some time in the A. Maybe a trade is coming soon?

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This, add he finally had a game that provided the coaches with a reason to send him down. He will be back for the last 20 games or so and playoffs.
I don't think last night's game played a role at all...my guess is this was part of the plan when McLaren was sent to Worcester to condition a couple weeks ago.

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I'm ok with it. Let Demers find his game, let braun get some time in the A. Maybe a trade is coming soon?
Exact thought crossed my mind.

If DW has been watching our last few games then that is definitely a possibility ..

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11-29-2011, 04:12 PM
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Shepppppppparddddddddd!!! ... :-D

We just fixed our 3rd line problems guys ...
Praise Toews!!

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Does anyone think he may be showcasing Demers with this move? yes, Braun is prone to mistakes, but so far this season, they way he carries himself and plays the puck he seems to have a higher ceiling than Demers.

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Does anyone think he may be showcasing Demers with this move? yes, Braun is prone to mistakes, but so far this season, they way he carries himself and plays the puck he seems to have a higher ceiling than Demers.
And this is exactly the way folks were describing Demers last season or the one before that (prone to mistakes, seems to have a higher ceiling [than Joslin AND Braun at the time]). Demers is struggling a bit. Not getting consistent playing time is no doubt feeding into it. But showcasing Demers because he's struggling a bit right now would be retarded beyond belief. Since it's DW we're talking about, I wouldn't put it past him, but hopefully even he's not so stupid as to try and trade Demers right now.

Demer's hasn't even played the equivalent of two full seasons of NHL hockey yet. Let's give the kid a bit of leeway to continue his development. Just as folks were saying Murray didn't even belong in the NHL for much of his first 2 seasons. Demers will need time to continue growing. But you don't showcase a d-man with top-4 potential who can run your PP just because he's struggling to start the season out. Especially when in last years playoffs he was one of the teams best defensemen.

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And this is exactly the way folks were describing Demers last season or the one before that (prone to mistakes, seems to have a higher ceiling [than Joslin AND Braun at the time]). Demers is struggling a bit. Not getting consistent playing time is no doubt feeding into it. But showcasing Demers because he's struggling a bit right now would be retarded beyond belief. Since it's DW we're talking about, I wouldn't put it past him, but hopefully even he's not so stupid as to try and trade Demers right now.

Demer's hasn't even played the equivalent of two full seasons of NHL hockey yet. Let's give the kid a bit of leeway to continue his development. Just as folks were saying Murray didn't even belong in the NHL for much of his first 2 seasons. Demers will need time to continue growing. But you don't showcase a d-man with top-4 potential who can run your PP just because he's struggling to start the season out. Especially when in last years playoffs he was one of the teams best defensemen.
I don't like the idea of having 8 d-men and scuffling 4 in and out every other game. The only one out of those 4 who have played well when he's come in is Vandermeer.

I don't want Demers traded, either. But with the way the team is being run at the moment, it doesn't make very much sense to play a guy and send him down the very next night when ,aside from the errant pass to Moreau, he's played very well. Just seems fishy.

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11-29-2011, 05:34 PM
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Trading Demers, unless it's in a package for a spectacular young two-way top six forward, would be a bigger mistake than trading Ehrhoff was. You could easily make the argument that he was the Sharks' best defenseman last season (which you could have never, ever said about Ehrhoff). Yeah he's sucked this year but hopefully this move with Braun allows him to play his way out of a slump.

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11-29-2011, 05:37 PM
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Trading Demers, unless it's in a package for a spectacular young two-way top six forward, would be a bigger mistake than trading Ehrhoff was. You could easily make the argument that he was the Sharks' best defenseman last season (which you could have never, ever said about Ehrhoff). Yeah he's sucked this year but hopefully this move with Braun allows him to play his way out of a slump.
Uhm, I could absolutely say that about Ehrhoff, and did, loudly, before he was traded. He was also Vancouver's arguably best d-men after that.

That said, Demers was great last year, and I don't want to see him traded. The problem is, even if you do trade him for a stud forward, the likelyhood of getting one of equivalent salary is pretty small. At this point I would actually prefer trading Murray, of all our D-men he seems to be getting the most slack for his performance but is having the worst season of all of them. He's also not long for this team with the emergence of Vlasic, so if you are going to move a defensemen, move him.

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TMac and Co aren't very happy with the play in the past couple games. There is no room this season for accepting poor execution. That means they should respond a little faster in getting guys playing or making a move to get the team's attention. That move can be in less PT (something they are using), they can take people off lines and elevate others (something they are doing), they can demote and promote (what they just did), or they can make a trade. There is an order of moves with this team to 1) get the players attention, 2) expect results or make changes of the people in the lockerroom. We aren't yet at the stage where I expect a trade will be made, but I doubt DW waits to the deadline to make it this season.

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TMac and Co aren't very happy with the play in the past couple games. There is no room this season for accepting poor execution. That means they should respond a little faster in getting guys playing or making a move to get the team's attention. That move can be in less PT (something they are using), they can take people off lines and elevate others (something they are doing), they can demote and promote (what they just did), or they can make a trade. There is an order of moves with this team to 1) get the players attention, 2) expect results or make changes of the people in the lockerroom. We aren't yet at the stage where I expect a trade will be made, but I doubt DW waits to the deadline to make it this season.
Yeah, good luck with that "promote" thing.

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Uhm, I could absolutely say that about Ehrhoff, and did, loudly, before he was traded. He was also Vancouver's arguably best d-men after that.
Well you would have been wrong. Carle and Vlasic were both better than Ehrhoff in 07-08 while Blake and Vlasic were both better than Ehrhoff in his final season. I'd like to hear the argument that he was Vancouver's best defenseman either of his seasons there. Best point producer from the back end? Sure, he was gifted gobs of PP time and used in heavily sheltered situations at even-strength, almost always playing behind the Sedins who are the poster boys for line sheltering in the NHL, to ensure offensive production. Willie Mitchell was the Canucks' best defenseman in 09-10 and Dan Hamhuis was their best last season. Alex Edler was also better than Ehrhoff both years and I'd probably even put Bieksa ahead of Ehrhoff last season although it's clear he was heavily dependent on Hamhuis.

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