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11-29-2011, 09:24 PM
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Plus/Minus Pens v Rags

+ Coming back when down 4-1.
+ Malkin
+ Neal
+ Sid and Duper

- Stupid ****ing penalties, way too many.
- Fleury, first game I'm giving him a minus. he really needed to play well for us tonight and those softies in the 2nd really hurt. Especially needed a strong showing from him with Z and Letang out

- Kunitz, yea, he got hosed at the end, but still looked pretty bad out there

- First line as a whole looks horrible tbh, even with the goal.

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11-29-2011, 09:25 PM
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+ Coming back when down 4-1.
+ Malkin
+ Neal
+ Sid and Duper

- Stupid ****ing penalties, way too many.
- Fleury, first game I'm giving him a minus. he really needed to play well for us tonight and those softies in the 2nd really hurt. Especially needed a strong showing from him with Z and Letang out

- Kunitz, yea, he got hosed at the end, but still looked pretty bad out there

- First line as a whole looks horrible tbh, even with the goal.
..None of the Rangers goals were soft.

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11-29-2011, 09:25 PM
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The Rangers are the first team I've seen a while that can give the Pens a real push back for extended periods of time. They'll be a good team this year.

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11-29-2011, 09:25 PM
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- An entire month of pathetically stupid defense. Starters outplayed by AHLers tonight.
- Selfish jags slashing and crashing people with abandon to flush the game, especially Orpik who does the same thing twice in a row and should have had two penalties.
+ Malkin other than his stupid penalty.
- Sullivan who can't hit the net, is easily pushed off the puck, and doesn't know when he should shoot
+ Refs. Didn't see anything egregiously wrong. I guess that's not a ver high standard.
- Kunitz left his feet TWICE to charge guys. The first one was ignored in order to call Malkin's slash. I didn't even notice him the rest of the game.
- Not bothering to shoot on PP.

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+ Coming back when down 4-1.
+ Malkin
+ Neal
+ Sid and Duper

- Stupid ****ing penalties, way too many.
- Fleury, first game I'm giving him a minus. he really needed to play well for us tonight and those softies in the 2nd really hurt. Especially needed a strong showing from him with Z and Letang out

- Kunitz, yea, he got hosed at the end, but still looked pretty bad out there

- First line as a whole looks horrible tbh, even with the goal.
I noticed him falling a lot. Not his best game.

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11-29-2011, 09:26 PM
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I'll post a summary instead of a list. *My list would be way too long*

I have no problem with the reffing. The boarding near the end was questionable, but... are ya gonna blame a loss on one blown call or countless stupid penalties taken by the players (Kunitz and Orpik) ? Good resiliency shown by the Pens to try and tie, but they only have themselves to blame for the hole. Bad defense and stupid penalties were the story of the game.

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-Kunitz
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11-29-2011, 09:27 PM
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I missed the 2nd so take it for what it's worth, but I thought Staal played great for not having any points. He looked proactive with the puck and using his body, which is when he's at his best. He looked like the horse everyone wants to see.

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Rangers played a good game and capitalized on some defensive blunders and made a couple of nice passes. Penguins still showed some battle, but took too many stupid penalties in the 3rd at the worst time.

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11-29-2011, 09:28 PM
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..None of the Rangers goals were soft, jesus.
On a regular night?

Maybe not, but with our two top D we needed a big game from Fleury.

He could've stopped both of those goals.

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+The difference between the maturity level between Pens And Rags fans after a loss including questionable calls is staggering

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On a regular night?

Maybe not, but with our two top D we needed a big game from Fleury.

He could've stopped both of those goals.
They were both corner snipes, right from the slot, one after a nice shifty pass completely changing the angle and the other using Orpik as a screen. Really, sorry, but anyone who calls those goals soft doesn't know what they are talking about. They were great shots by the Rangers.

He may not have stolen the show, but the score wasn't on him.

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+The difference between the maturity level between Pens And Rags fans after a loss including questionable calls is staggering
^ Wow, weakest silver lining ever. Just take the loss.

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..None of the Rangers goals were soft, jesus.
Agreed.

+ Vitale, he battled out there
+ Picard and Bort, they played a solid game, looks like it helps they play together in the AHL

- Dumb penalty by Orpik and Malkin, Kunitz didn't get the first penalty, it was the slash by Geno
- Missed assignments on defense, screening our own goalie and not doing anything to prevent a shot from the slot
- not using Malkin on the powerplay properly, one or two set ups for the onetimer from the right circle would be nice in the future
- Martin is just awful on the powerplay, he is just passing around

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+'s

Sid and Geno: Both did a pretty good job but neither had that many solid chances
Dupuis: Very pleased with his game tonight
Vitale: Hustled non-stop
Engelland: Did great again tonight.
3 on 5 PK: Should have been like that alllll night...but...

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MAF: Saved a few good ones...but let those two back to back glove hand snipes in.
Orpik: Terrible
Martin: Not as bad as Orpik but still bad
Sullivan: On the PP. Worthless.
Kunitz: A rare minus but...he wasn't very good tonight
Defense: Everyone sucked...lets face it.
Bort/Picard: Scary having these guys as the 3rd pairing.
Penalties: Decided the game

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+The difference between the maturity level between Pens And Rags fans after a loss including questionable calls is staggering
I absolutely refuse to conduct myself in a manner that some of them do.

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Anyhow, a huge minus is regardless of who's at fault, whether it be Fleury, Johnson, the defence, mixture, or hell, just great play from the other team, we have to stop allowing 3 or more goals a game.

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- Defense
- Fleury's glove
- Sullivan, I thought he was really rough tonight.

+ Sid racking up points while looking like the 2009 version of himself
+ Malkin in general.. although his passing left a bit to be desired at times.

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^ Wow, weakest silver lining ever. Just take the loss.
Dont tell me im wrong.Because im not.You should see the stuff they say about us.And no i dont think the refs were to blame for our epic collapse.

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They were both corner snipes, right from the slot, one after a nice shifty pass completely changing the angle and the other using Orpik as a screen. Really, sorry, but anyone who calls those goals soft doesn't know what they are talking about. They were great shots by the Rangers.

He may not have stolen the show, but the score wasn't on him.
Doesn't matter. Fleury needed to be stellar tonight and wasn't.

Sorry, but anyone who says "doesn't know what they are talking about" needs to really come off their high horse, it's an internet forum, it's my opinion, no need to insult people, come on

Is it really hard to respectfully disagree? Like JTG did? Sheesh.

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MAF: Saved a few good ones...but let those two back to back glove hand snipes in.
back to back doesn`t make any difference, he can`t guess the corner and just hopes the shot goes that way

Can`t believe some guys try to fault Fleury for those goals. He gave us a chance to get a point out of this game.

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Anyhow, a huge minus is regardless of who's at fault, whether it be Fleury, Johnson, the defence, mixture, or hell, just great play from the other team, we have to stop allowing 3 or more goals a game.
This.

It's getting frustrating seeing what is supposed to be a very good defensive team, giving up 3 goals or more in almost every game. And yes I'm well aware of the injuries our defense has had so far.

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+Martin was actually pretty damn good tonight.

+Bortuzzo and Picard didn't suck. Not bad for #9 and #10 on the depth chart.

+Staal was a force out there on the cycle and the PK.

-/+Crosby looks out of sync more than I would like to see, but 2 points is 2 points...

-/+ Malkin kept them in the game with his goal. He set them back with his penalty.

-Kunitz got away with a clear charge on the play Malkin got called for a slash even if he didn't deserve the boarding call at the end. He also sent a blind pass to no one at the end of the game.

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..None of the Rangers goals were soft.
But two cleanly beat Fleury to his glove hand, the game after the Habs targeted his glove hand. Soft? No. A weakness? Perhaps.

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Tell me im wrong.Because im not.You should see the stuff they say about us.And no i dont think the refs were to blame for our epic collapse.
6 shots on 4 PPs.

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