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12-04-2011, 12:29 PM
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Lets not expect unreasonable things from Hagelin. Even Callahan did not start out as a 30-30 player. Effective here tonight after his first 20-goal season that it's a fluke.

Hagelin still has a lot of time to mature. A 10 goal, 20 assist rookie season from him would leave me very happy.

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12-04-2011, 12:59 PM
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The guy is buzzing all over the ice, getting his nose dirty, and is a pleasure to watch. How about we grade him on that.

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The guy is buzzing all over the ice, getting his nose dirty, and is a pleasure to watch. How about we grade him on that.
He only has 4 points in 5 games though. Not enough AT ALL. You people amaze me with how much you praise a guy who has only played 5 NHL games....






















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12-04-2011, 02:12 PM
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Great to have a young kid showing he can play when given a chance. I hope he gets steady 3rd line minutes or more for most of the season.

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After having a quiet last few weeks, Hagelin was flying all over the place tonight. Had a few nice shots and had that beautiful pickpocket on Fogliano to set up Richards on the 4th goal.

And, I didn't realize he had such amazing flow until his helmet got knocked off.

No wonder Torts told Kreider to watch Hagelin play, best I've seen a rookie play for us in the playoffs thus far.

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04-13-2012, 12:00 AM
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And, I didn't realize he had such amazing flow until his helmet got knocked off.
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04-13-2012, 01:46 AM
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Hagelin is going to be a superstar

He is that good.

I think he's going to have an insane playoffs, possibly even leading the team in scoring.

I think he's going to score 70-80 points next season.

He has the potential to be a faster Zetterberg.

He is elite and will become a superstar in this league. It's so easy to forget he's a rookie without even a full year under his belt yet, and he's so consistently productive, in forechecking, in causing turnovers, in scoring.

We are so lucky.

I truly think we've hit the jackpot with this kid.

GO HAGELIN GO

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04-13-2012, 01:51 AM
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i don't think he'll be a superstar. He's good though. Fast. his hands seem to be improving. I hope is is, don't get me wrong, but i don't think so.

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04-13-2012, 01:55 AM
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Superstar?

70-80 pts?

This is a tad premature.

I don't think he is anywhere near the two way player of a guy like Zetterberg.

He is probably going to be a really fast very good second line player. But I am still not really sure he is a first line guy.

He doesn't have the best hands, he isn't dominating on the boards, his shot needs significant work, as well as more confidence with his passing.

He is super fast(great at chasing down pucks), smart, defensively responsible(most of the time), and hard working.

He is a really good player and has a bright future. But lets not overdo it.

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04-13-2012, 02:16 AM
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Superstar?

70-80 pts?

This is a tad premature.

I don't think he is anywhere near the two way player of a guy like Zetterberg.

He is probably going to be a really fast very good second line player. But I am still not really sure he is a first line guy.

He doesn't have the best hands, he isn't dominating on the boards, his shot needs significant work, as well as more confidence with his passing.

He is super fast(great at chasing down pucks), smart, defensively responsible(most of the time), and hard working.

He is a really good player and has a bright future. But lets not overdo it.
He's the type of guy who doesn't NEED the best hands. Stepan doesn't have the greatest physical gifts, but he sees the play better than most. Hagelin is the same way. He reads the game and reacts to it better and faster than most.

He does as well against the boards as anyone on this team. His stick is very good, and he rolls off contact like its nothing.

Confidence comes with experience and success.

His speed is lethal. It allows him to be an absolute turnover-causing machine. His brain and his legs will get him to the show. And I think he's going to continue to develop into a point per game player and more. Don't think so? Watch.

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04-13-2012, 02:24 AM
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He's the type of guy who doesn't NEED the best hands. Stepan doesn't have the greatest physical gifts, but he sees the play better than most. Hagelin is the same way. He reads the game and reacts to it better and faster than most.

He does as well against the boards as anyone on this team. His stick is very good, and he rolls off contact like its nothing.

Confidence comes with experience and success.

His speed is lethal. It allows him to be an absolute turnover-causing machine. His brain and his legs will get him to the show. And I think he's going to continue to develop into a point per game player and more. Don't think so? Watch.
He doesn't play the boards better than anyone else. We certainly have players that are better challenging the D-men physically. Don't let Ottawa's soft D fool you, against Big physical Dmen Hags will be pushed around. His only hope is that he can beat them in a foot race.

His speed is outstanding, no question. But its going to take more tools than speed to become a SUPERSTAR. Your making lofty expectation. Better hands would certainly help.

Btw, Stepan hasn't proven he is a superstar either. He has the brains but his physical tools are holding him back. But I believe if Steps develops those tools he can be a dominating player.

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04-13-2012, 02:26 AM
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i'll be beyond thrilled to see 50 points

Superstar? really?

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04-13-2012, 02:33 AM
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i'll be beyond thrilled to see 50 points

Superstar? really?
38 points in 64 games. Pro-rated to 82 games is 48 points. So you're going to tell me he's going to be what he is right now and not improve? He's played less than a season and hopefully with the playoffs will get into 82 games in the NHL this season.

He reminds me of a faster version of Callahan. Cally never had the best hands or the best playmaking ability, but he works hard and does all the small things correct.

Hagelin should evolve his game into Cally's and I think he could be just as good as him. He's off to a flying start, but I don't see him becoming a big time superstar for the Rangers. Although, with his start to his career, you never know where hard work will take him. He has the desire to be great.

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04-13-2012, 02:33 AM
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He was on pace for about 50 points this season. I wouldn't be "beyond thrilled" if he didn't improve next year. I'd be ok with 50 people, happy with 55, very happy with 60, thrilled with 65.

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04-13-2012, 02:36 AM
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38 points in 64 games. Pro-rated to 82 games is 48 points. So you're going to tell me he's going to be what he is right now and not improve? He's played less than a season and hopefully with the playoffs will get into 82 games in the NHL this season.

He reminds me of a faster version of Callahan. Cally never had the best hands or the best playmaking ability, but he works hard and does all the small things correct.

Hagelin should evolve his game into Cally's and I think he could be just as good as him. He's off to a flying start, but I don't see him becoming a big time superstar for the Rangers. Although, with his start to his career, you never know where hard work will take him. He has the desire to be great.
That is pretty exactly what he is- a faster/ less physical second line player. Aint no shame in that. I can see him putting up between 45-60 pts a season.

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04-13-2012, 02:39 AM
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I don't think he has the overall puck skills to be a superstar, but he seems like the kind of guy that is very well-suited to play with top line players (like Richards and Gaborik). Partly because he's a turnover machine and an overall very smart player who makes quick decisions. And partly because those kind of players know how to take advantage of his blazing speed and quickness.

His speed has really rubbed off on Richards' game as well. It has forced Richie to use his feet more and play a more up-tempo game.

I'm really excited about Hags' future. The kid has already exceeded expectations in just his first year in the pros, so who knows really how far that can go as his career progresses.

I'm just really happy we got him and so very pleasantly surprised that he's responded so well to being given such a prominent role on our team.

Kudos to both him and the coaching staff!

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04-13-2012, 03:10 AM
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Cally managed 54 points this year. Granted, about 30 of those were goals, and 9 of which were game winning, + shootout goals.

You're telling me You're expecting Hags to pretty much equal our Captains point production.

I would freaking love this. I'm not expecting it. Maybe he'll pick up a ****ton of assists playing with Richie and Gabby, but I'm not ready to pencil him in for that yet.

I'm expecting in the mid 40s, maybe hit 50. Possibly match Step.

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Superstar?no.scratch that,hell no.

solid 25-25 guy whos responsible defensively every year?yes

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I think of Hagelin as a very flexible piece who can help any line. But - on offense - I don't see him as a focalpoint-type player. He's not really a setup man and not really a finisher. But he's a fine player and certainly fits the system. I like watching him play.

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if Hagelin can become a perennial 20g scorer, I would be very happy with just that

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20-30 player that is very good defensively. Superstar? I doubt it but hope I'm wrong.

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He was on pace for about 50 points this season. I wouldn't be "beyond thrilled" if he didn't improve next year. I'd be ok with 50 people, happy with 55, very happy with 60, thrilled with 65.

He did somewhat benefit from playing with Gaborik and Richards.

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38 points in 64 games. Pro-rated to 82 games is 48 points. So you're going to tell me he's going to be what he is right now and not improve? He's played less than a season and hopefully with the playoffs will get into 82 games in the NHL this season.

He reminds me of a faster version of Callahan. Cally never had the best hands or the best playmaking ability, but he works hard and does all the small things correct.

Hagelin should evolve his game into Cally's and I think he could be just as good as him. He's off to a flying start, but I don't see him becoming a big time superstar for the Rangers. Although, with his start to his career, you never know where hard work will take him. He has the desire to be great.
Cally has a better shot though. However, I'm not sure if he started off with a better shot. He really developed his game. I think Hags is a better passer though.

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BTW in Cally and Hags we're talking about 2 great 4th and 6th round picks. Why the hell did we throw away a 5th round pick for John Scott again?

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