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12-09-2011, 10:46 AM
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Meh, only cheap shots I hate are the ones that result in injury. Otherwise, they're pretty funny.

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12-09-2011, 10:49 AM
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Meh, only cheap shots I hate are the ones that result in injury. Otherwise, they're pretty funny.
oh, no question it was hysterical. no worries. I'm sure sidney sat him down and lectured him about the horror of headshots...

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12-09-2011, 11:50 AM
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tomas fleischmann. tied for 11th in the league in scoring. seems like giving that player every last chance before having to give up on him was the right move.

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12-09-2011, 11:52 AM
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anyone see the attempted decaffination of giroux by malkin? think shanny might take a look at that?
It's the perfect example of a play that illustrates that while intent matters, the extent of the injury also matters. Depending on the degree of contact, no contact, and extent of the subsequent injury, that exact play and decisionmaking on Malkin's part warrants no review, two games, five games, 10 games, 25 games.

I wouldn't even look at it. If he connects, and the player leaves the game with facial fractures, I'd feel far differently.

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12-09-2011, 11:57 AM
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so, just for the purposes of argument, chris simon's samurai attack a few years back (on orr maybe?)... if he pops up from the hit with that deranged look on his face and swings for the fences at the head of the guy who hit him, but misses, nothing happens? does it depend on how egregious the attempt is?

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12-09-2011, 12:00 PM
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I think that saying the injury is all that matters is absurd, but so is that assertion that it's only intent. Part of the problem is the difficulty in making windows into men's souls. It's not always easy to gauge intent.

Every time, the impact on the target is going to be a factor. It shouldn't be all consuming, but it's going to matter. Malkin will walk because he didn't connect.

Had Giroux a black eye, a concussion, or a fractured orbital bone today, you'd see far different reactions from the league, all stemming from an incident in which the transgressor had precisely the same intent.

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12-09-2011, 12:05 PM
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Let's look at another recent incident. If Ryan Miller, freshly crumpled from an aggressive charge, connects with his hard goalie stick swing against the leg of Milan Lucic, and the latter leaves the game with a serious lower body injury, it certainly receives a heck of a lot more attention than it did in the end.

Connecting, not connecting and the consequences for the target are always going to matter. Both Miller and Malkin are fortunate they did not connect.

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12-09-2011, 12:07 PM
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oh, I agree. just wondering how far the crackdown on headshots goes. if I'm shanny, I might call malkin though, tell him he better keep missing.

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12-09-2011, 12:11 PM
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God people are stupid. Injury has absolutely nothing to do with the inherent nature of the act in question.

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12-09-2011, 12:14 PM
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That's a good possibility, and it has the added advantage that it can be done outside the public eye.

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12-09-2011, 12:22 PM
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God people are stupid. Injury has absolutely nothing to do with the inherent nature of the act in question.
It does to the NHL.... Which is the entity that should be labelled "stupid"

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12-09-2011, 12:38 PM
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Whether the extent of the injury should factor into the punishment is irrelevant. In the reality of the NHL disciplinary system, it's an important factor and it's going to remain an important factor.

You are never going to see them issue a good long suspension for a failed attempt to knock someone's block off.

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12-09-2011, 12:52 PM
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It does to the NHL.... Which is the entity that should be labelled "stupid"
Yeah, I know. But it's an important distinction: people (the NHL, some other idiots) think it matters, but that doesn't mean it actually does.

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12-09-2011, 01:25 PM
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ice_chip: On signing Kaberle to $12.75 million, three-year contract, Rutherford said, "I should have known better."

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12-09-2011, 01:51 PM
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Change it to semin, gmgm.... And "I wish it was longer"

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12-09-2011, 02:13 PM
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Change it to semin, gmgm.... And "I wish it was longer"
Insert dirty joke here.

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12-09-2011, 03:27 PM
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ice_chip: On signing Kaberle to $12.75 million, three-year contract, Rutherford said, "I should have known better."
Lol, at least he admitted it. I always like his TV interviews in the past.

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12-09-2011, 04:03 PM
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Paul Stastny is now on IR retroactive to December 4, so he's eligible to play in the Avs' next game (not tonight).

Ryan Wilson is out with what appears to be an eye injury.

Kevin Porter is suspended for 4 games for his incidental knee-on-knee on Booth.

Avs are running very shorthanded tonight, in the second game of a back-to-back.

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12-09-2011, 07:38 PM
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Good, they need to drop back down in the standings some more.

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12-09-2011, 09:35 PM
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About nine minutes to go in a tie game, Buffalo-Florida.

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12-09-2011, 09:37 PM
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About nine minutes to go in a tie game, Buffalo-Florida.
So glad there's no slug... But horrid unis. Are they sponsored by napa auto parts!?

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12-09-2011, 09:40 PM
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Alright anyone gonna be watching the Oilers - Avs game?
Couldn't care less about the Oilers, but you know... Avs.

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12-09-2011, 09:44 PM
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So glad there's no slug... But horrid unis. Are they sponsored by napa auto parts!?
Sabres need to go full retro.

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12-09-2011, 09:46 PM
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Sabres need to go full retro.

I had no problem with the Black and Red jerseys.
Always disliked the Blue and Gold ones with the swords, no matter how the tweaked it.

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12-09-2011, 09:48 PM
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That's crazy. Blue and gold with the buffalo and crossed sabres logo is awesome.

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