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12-02-2011, 10:17 AM
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Where is Highschool hockey in the United States the best?

I grew up in New Hamposhire, went to a prep school, and remember that being pretty good hockey but im not sure how that compares to hockey in the north west and in places like minnesota.

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Michigan and Minnesota

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I grew up in New Hamposhire, went to a prep school, and remember that being pretty good hockey but im not sure how that compares to hockey in the north west and in places like minnesota.
Georgia's not bad

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Gonna go with Minnesota on this one.

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Minnesota is clearly the best state for HS hockey. If you look at some of the national rankings, the Minnesota teams dominate those lists. I'm from Mass, and though there are some good teams, I think the quality of hockey being played in the state has gone down over the years. There are a lot of good players coming out of New York now as well.

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http://www.ushsho.com/ushsrank.htm: Here is a list for national ranking at the end of last year...think these are all public and catholic, no MA prep teams, not sure how it works for other states though

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Definitely Minnesota.

Pittsburgh has turned out some players recently but they're not really starring at HS hockey per se. They're usually part of the Pittsburgh Hornets developmental team.

http://www.pittsburghhornets.com/ (Click Alumni to see players who have played for the Hornets)

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New Jersey's isn't great, but it's certainly improving.

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Believe it or not, Raleigh area high schools now have both ice and roller hockey. I don't think it's state-sanctioned yet, but every school has a team and they all play each other.

Far from the best, I'm sure, but it's progress!

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Not sure how league structures and things like that work, but a good amount of current and former NHL players of varying ability played for New England-based prep schools.

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The great thing about MN is how many of their powerhouse hockey teams are public schools.

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the thing that makes MN the best it is a state supported sport. the East coast turns out some great players but generally they come from prep schools. MN kids are coming out of the public school programs. here in Illinois there are some decent high school teams but they are "club" teams which means the only affiliation with the school is the name. They have a board of directors just like any other youth sport. when parents run the clubs politics are sure to follow. Also nothing compares to the MN state tournement if you are a hockey fan you must experience it at least once. youtube some videos then that will end the discussion. 18,000 fans to watch high school games is pretty frigin cool.

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Canada...

but Minnesota or Michigan for sure.

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Canada...

but Minnesota or Michigan for sure.
I dunno much about Canadian high school teams but I'd bet they don't even begin to compare to MN (seeing as how the top 3 tiers of players are playing some sort of junior hockey). Do they even have hockey programs in high school (serious question)?

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I dunno much about Canadian high school teams but I'd bet they don't even begin to compare to MN (seeing as how the top 3 tiers of players are playing some sort of junior hockey). Do they even have hockey programs in high school (serious question)?
Most players are AAA to junior A in my loop, I go to a weaker school so I was able to make the team, I play at a AA to high A level and I'm mostly a 3rd liner/4th line player.

We have the 4th highest scorer in all Ontario on our team this year and he isn't even a senior, kids grade 10. MN is most likely better than my loop but once you get out near Toronto and Vancouver etc the level gets very competitive with a few guys playing CHL and playing highschool. Just a few years ago my school played stamkos when he was a 9th grader for a fun exhibition game. I was in grade 6 then so we were able to go watch.

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I'm going to be biased but I think MN is the best, mainly because as far as I'm aware we are the only state that where its normal to play high school hockey instead of on travel teams.

Here is some highlights of Ryan McDonagh D - New York Rangers high school team #17:



Its probably the best MN high school hockey highlight video imo.

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Minnesota for sure. The talent in that state plays high school hockey.

While the state of Michigan develops a good amount of NHL players, rarely do those players actually play for their high schools. The most developed and talented players typically play travel for well-known clubs such as Compuware, Little Ceasars, and Honeybaked. As a result, Michigan high school hockey shouldn't even be in the same discussion as Minnesota.

Massachusetts has a pretty strong high school level though, don't they?

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Minnesota for sure. The talent in that state plays high school hockey.

While the state of Michigan develops a good amount of NHL players, rarely do those players actually play for their high schools. The most developed and talented players typically play travel for well-known clubs such as Compuware, Little Ceasars, and Honeybaked. As a result, Michigan high school hockey shouldn't even be in the same discussion as Minnesota.

Massachusetts has a pretty strong high school level though, don't they?
New England Prep school hockey is very strong, public highschool and the catholic schools have a few good teams, but overall it's not very strong

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Minnesota for sure. The talent in that state plays high school hockey.

While the state of Michigan develops a good amount of NHL players, rarely do those players actually play for their high schools. The most developed and talented players typically play travel for well-known clubs such as Compuware, Little Ceasars, and Honeybaked. As a result, Michigan high school hockey shouldn't even be in the same discussion as Minnesota.

Massachusetts has a pretty strong high school level though, don't they?
The talent level at the public and catholic level has def. gone down over the last decade or so, partially b/c of the fact that many kids are either playing in prep schools or juniors. Malden Catholic and St. John's Prep both had terrific teams last year, each with a fair share of D1 bound talent on it, but those were the two best teams I had seen at the HS level in a long while...it's hard for the publics and even to a degree, the Catholics, to maintain as high a level of talent as they used to. Catholic Memorial, prob the best program in MA history, missed the playoffs altogether last year, almost unthinkable. I think that illustrates how the Catholic schools aren't getting the same type of players they used to.

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Minn and Mass are one and two in terms of producing NHL players. . Michigan follows behind those two states by quite a bit. If you add in the other 5 New England states it is top producing area for NHL players. But hey don't take my word for it

http://www.hockey-reference.com/friv/birthplaces.cgi

Reason why I am using NHL producing is it gives you a good indication of the hockey programs at a grass root level and the quality of it.

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The talent level at the public and catholic level has def. gone down over the last decade or so, partially b/c of the fact that many kids are either playing in prep schools or juniors. Malden Catholic and St. John's Prep both had terrific teams last year, each with a fair share of D1 bound talent on it, but those were the two best teams I had seen at the HS level in a long while...it's hard for the publics and even to a degree, the Catholics, to maintain as high a level of talent as they used to. Catholic Memorial, prob the best program in MA history, missed the playoffs altogether last year, almost unthinkable. I think that illustrates how the Catholic schools aren't getting the same type of players they used to.
Is that why Hingham won two years ago because the public schools can't keep up? I would say the public schools are getting better and better because the talent overall is growing not the other way around.

So, you say the Catholic schools are struggling but every team you mentioned is Catholic and are almost always the most dominate schools with the except of Highham, Weymouth and Arlington.

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I dunno much about Canadian high school teams but I'd bet they don't even begin to compare to MN (seeing as how the top 3 tiers of players are playing some sort of junior hockey). Do they even have hockey programs in high school (serious question)?
There's some. There's the rather famous Hounds of Notre Dame in Wilcox, SK and I know there's Winnipeg and Manitoba HS hockey leagues. There's a number of current and former players who played HS hockey before moving up to more competitive loops. The problem is that the juniors play more games and involve more travel, so a young player might not want to do that.

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