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12-03-2011, 01:46 PM
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I actually think this could be Sweden's year. They may not have the most hyped players around (aside from Zibanejad, who I actually think has become overrated) but they looked really solid in my viewings at the Lake Placid summer tournament.

I don't really know what to expect from the US. I was disappointed with their showing at Lake Placid and I have some concerns with the defense given all the question marks of who will be available and who will be in game shape. I wouldn't be surprised if they fall short of some of these prognostications.

Canada always has to be considered a favorite, regardless of how many players they lose to the NHL. I actually find the people who try and make more out of a Canadian loss than they should to be more annoying than the Canadian fans who point to those they're missing. I'd love to see all players released for this tournament but I don't expect it to ever happen. Canada would probably win the majority of the time but a win against them would be so much more meaningful.

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12-03-2011, 01:48 PM
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lol I'm not going to sit here and say I know everything about Swedish or Finnish hockey, not many people can. I know enough. All I got from your post was that it wasn't the rosters going to the U20s so I guess we'll see what happens ye?
So you don't know much at all, but just have the gutfeeling Finland will overwhelm Sweden? To each to his own.

My predictions:

Group A
Russia/Sweden will fight it out for first place. Russia takes it.
Switzerland/Slovakia will fight it out for the last quarterfinal spot.
Latvia relegated

Group B (Much tougher than Group A, my guess is that the finns make it over czech republic).
Canada
USA
Finland
Czech republic
Denmark

Quarterfinals:
Sweden-Finland (Sweden wins a hardfought game)
USA-Switzerland (USA wins pretty clearly)

Semifinals:
Canada-Sweden (Canada wins when it matters)
USA-Russia (The americans wins in a shootout)

Finals:
USA-Canada (USA claims the gold)
Russia-Sweden (Sweden continues the bad habit of losing important games )

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12-03-2011, 02:01 PM
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I see the Russians as the top favourite this time. Many people are mentioning the US, but I don't know much about their team, so I cannot tell.

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12-03-2011, 02:02 PM
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I agree with you on Team Canada and the defense, the guys who picked it once again are boneheads. The forwards will score goals, WHY can't we have dmen who are just reliable in their own zone? Can't believe they left Stuart Percy and Duncan Siemens off, those two aren't as good offensively as some of the other ones but they're solid in their own end and you don't need a bunch of guys who can run a PP anyways, just 2 or 3 like Hamilton or Gormley.

However, I like the forward group more, especially Scheifele+Huberdeau+Strome should make a huge difference in terms of creativity.

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12-03-2011, 02:14 PM
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The Finns have some VERY good up-and-coming players so be weary of them.

Gold - Russia
Silver - USA
Bronze - Sweden

4th - Canada

Canada has finished in either first or second for the past 10 years but I am not that excited about their chances this year. Honestly, if the Finns play well enough, 4th might be lucky.

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12-03-2011, 02:21 PM
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I know this will draw howls of laughter, but I really believe by the end of this tourney Team USA will outscore all opponents combined by 2 or 3 to 1. The defensive prospects are huge, experienced and able to shut it down like no one else. This will come down to coaching. Will Blais put the shut down specialists out against the oppositions' best forward lines, or will he lean more heavily on high scoring offense? If he puts puck movers out against Yakupovs and the like, USA will get creamed. If he gets the right pairings, we will see very low goals against the US squad. Campbell's been a backbone for this team, but since he's been in the OHL we've seen some vulnerability. The difference will be the d-corp in front him in Alberta. He will make some spectacular demoralizing saves, but he should see far fewer shots than any of this opponents imo.

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12-03-2011, 03:20 PM
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I believe Duncan Siemens is out for the season.

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12-03-2011, 03:31 PM
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I actually think this could be Sweden's year. They may not have the most hyped players around (aside from Zibanejad, who I actually think has become overrated) but they looked really solid in my viewings at the Lake Placid summer tournament.
No one's been talking about him.

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12-03-2011, 03:52 PM
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I know this will draw howls of laughter, but I really believe by the end of this tourney Team USA will outscore all opponents combined by 2 or 3 to 1. The defensive prospects are huge, experienced and able to shut it down like no one else. This will come down to coaching. Will Blais put the shut down specialists out against the oppositions' best forward lines, or will he lean more heavily on high scoring offense? If he puts puck movers out against Yakupovs and the like, USA will get creamed. If he gets the right pairings, we will see very low goals against the US squad. Campbell's been a backbone for this team, but since he's been in the OHL we've seen some vulnerability. The difference will be the d-corp in front him in Alberta. He will make some spectacular demoralizing saves, but he should see far fewer shots than any of this opponents imo.
I don't think they will out socre there opponents by that much they will win alot but most will be very close games.

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12-03-2011, 03:52 PM
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1. Canada
2. USA
3. Russia
4. Sweden

Rest are irrelevant.

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12-03-2011, 04:09 PM
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1. Canada
2. USA
3. Russia
4. Sweden

Rest are irrelevant.
Hate this. Hope someone proves you wrong (I realize it isn't that likely).

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12-03-2011, 04:15 PM
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Hate this. Hope someone proves you wrong (I realize it isn't that likely).
Heh. I think that was little bit flaming towards the finns here. He is probably right about the top 4 though.

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12-03-2011, 04:23 PM
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1. Sweden
2. USA
3. Russia
4. Canada



i have good feeling about the swedes this year.

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12-03-2011, 04:27 PM
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Heh. I think that was little bit flaming towards the finns here. He is probably right about the top 4 though.
I expect every comment like that is taken hardest by the Finns here.

Hope they make some noise.

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12-03-2011, 04:34 PM
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The truth is nobody cares about this tournament outside of Canada and that's why its always held there.. when was the last time the junior championships were held on large ice?

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12-03-2011, 04:39 PM
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1. Canada
2. IDK
3. IDK

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12-03-2011, 04:45 PM
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The truth is nobody cares about this tournament outside of Canada and that's why its always held there.. when was the last time the junior championships were held on large ice?
Since 2000, it has been held on a large ice surface six times, and has been in the States twice. Buffalo last year, Czech Republic in 2008, Sweden in 2007.

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12-03-2011, 05:38 PM
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I really like the Swedes, i'm gonna say:

Gold: Sweden
Silver: Canada (less superstar prospects = better team play)
Bronze: USA
4th: Finland / Russia (I just don't trust Finland, feels like they will rely on Granlund too much.)

Johan Larsson is going to carry Sweden.

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12-03-2011, 06:05 PM
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It's lost on people that this is Canada's best team since 2005.......

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12-03-2011, 06:19 PM
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The truth is nobody cares about this tournament outside of Canada and that's why its always held there.. when was the last time the junior championships were held on large ice?
It has grown in Sweden last couple of years. This and OG are the only national team tournament I care about, couldnt care less about WC.

Should be held in Canada every year imo

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12-03-2011, 06:22 PM
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Canada is going to **** everyone up

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12-03-2011, 06:23 PM
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Group B is tougher, but also more predictable. The Danes and Czechs are more than likely going to the relegation round. The Swiss, Slovaks and Latvians should have some tight games in group A, so any two of those three could be in the bottom two after prelims. It will be interesting to see how the Latvians do with a team that finally has prolific scorers on both offence and defence, and decent goaltending (although Gudlevskis does not seem to be as effective as he was last year. Their backup actually has better numbers at the moment in the MHL).


The top teams are all a crap shoot and I'm not too familiar with Finland or Sweden this year, but based on what I know and what I've read here, I'll go with:


1.Russia
2. Sweden
3. USA
4. Canada

Relegated: Denmark


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12-03-2011, 06:24 PM
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Ah.. gotta hype Russia a bit:

-Kuznetsov - arguably 1 of 2 best players outside NHL (w/ Granlund)
-Yakupov - probably 1st overall next year
-Grigorenko - probably 1st or 2nd overall next year
-Gusev and Kucherov - Chemistry with above will be insane and best in in the tournament
-Gusev with 52 points in 22 games in MHL - 2.36 PPG
-Apalkov - The most consistent Russian player from SSS, a talented creative Center, very underrated!
-Namestnikov and Khokhlachev - Good producing forwards from OHL
-Arzamastsev - A very good Defenseman playing in KHL for his 2nd year!


Of course, the negatives are Goal and Defense. But if they get decent defense and occasionaly good Goaltending, they may just score enough to put up a fight.

The OP calling last year's Russia win a 'fake' reeks of uninformed. There is no team out there that can 'fake' as many come backs as Russia had, + SSS last year where they showed their character. No one gets simply "lucky" that many times. You need character to win games the way Russia did.

Hype over.


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12-03-2011, 06:25 PM
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It has grown in Sweden last couple of years. This and OG are the only national team tournament I care about, couldnt care less about WC.

Should be held in Canada every year imo
It has grown in popularity in Slovakia as well snce it´s available on TV starting in 2009. Nowhere near as popular as OG or WC though.

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12-03-2011, 06:26 PM
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1. Canada
2. Russia
3. USA
4. Sweden
5. Finland

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