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12-03-2011, 05:47 PM
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12-03-2011, 06:43 PM
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Ah.. gotta hype Russia a bit:

-Kuznetsov - arguably 1 of 2 best players outside NHL (w/ Granlund)
No way.

Best U20, but not close to being the best player outside the NHL.

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12-04-2011, 02:41 AM
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No way.

Best U20, but not close to being the best player outside the NHL.
I think that is what he meant.

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12-04-2011, 06:46 AM
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I don't think they will out socre there opponents by that much they will win alot but most will be very close games.
2-1 is close, but it's also twice as much.

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12-04-2011, 07:03 AM
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No way.

Best U20, but not close to being the best player outside the NHL.
That's what I meant.

Although, tbh, it's an interesting point. Those 2 would be among the most talented outside of NHL. Of course players like Radulov are better right now, but talent-wise- who knows...

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12-04-2011, 08:20 AM
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lol isn't there only like 22 Russian NHLers right now? I doubt 8 of them are U20 eligible.
I could really care less if Canada wins gold or not, I watch the tournament to see prospects. This season I'm picking Finland as my team to watch because of the strength of the team. I'm picking Canada as my team to fail because they don't have a good roster due to the simple fact that 8 guys are in the NHL. That's a serious kick in the nuts to a team. If it was only 1 or 2 like other countries, I think Canada would be able to compete.
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12-04-2011, 08:39 AM
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Switzerland win the tournament.

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12-04-2011, 10:20 AM
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Just glanced at what the rosters where at Lake Placid and Finland was missing Grandlund, Pokka, Ristolainen, Mustonen, Teräväinen and Barkov. So I wouldn't put too much weight on those practice games.

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12-04-2011, 10:35 AM
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Just glanced at what the rosters where at Lake Placid and Finland was missing Grandlund, Pokka, Ristolainen, Mustonen, Teräväinen and Barkov. So I wouldn't put too much weight on those practice games.
Finland had its best team there at that time (minus Granlund ofc) And Sweden had pretty much its best team at that time. Now both teams have changed a bit.

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12-04-2011, 10:41 AM
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Just glanced at what the rosters where at Lake Placid and Finland was missing Grandlund, Pokka, Ristolainen, Mustonen, Teräväinen and Barkov. So I wouldn't put too much weight on those practice games.
I think you're expecting too much of the 16 and 17 year olds if you believe they'll make the difference.

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12-04-2011, 11:20 AM
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I think you're expecting too much of the 16 and 17 year olds if you believe they'll make the difference.
Not really, they are some of Finland's best players. Pokka and Ristolainen are Top 4 d-men for Finland, Barkov will center the 3rd line and Teräväinen will be in the bottom 6. Only reason why they weren't at Lake Placid is because they were too busy playing great at the Ivan Hlinka. These players will huge for as in the WJC, expecially Ristolainen and Barkov.

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12-04-2011, 12:17 PM
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The Lake Placid games means little now, but truth to the matter is that both Sweden and Finland played with teams they thought were very close to their best coming into this season. The tournament had high class. The players mentioned for Finland, well the same could be said for Sweden missing Aberg, Forsberg, Collberg and Karlsson at that tournament mainly because they are younger players. But I still expect the older guys to be leading players on both squads.

That said, it's the WJC that means anything.

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12-04-2011, 12:32 PM
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1 Finland
2 Sweden
3 Canada
4 USA
5 Russia
6 Switzerland
7 Slovakia
8 Czech
9 Denmark
10 Latvija

MVP: Mikael Granlund
Best forward: Mikael Granlund
Best d-man: Brandon Gormley
Best goalie: Johan Gustafsson

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Evgeny Kuznetsov - Mikael Granlund - Johan Larsson
Brandon Gormley - Jonas Brodin
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12-04-2011, 12:48 PM
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1 Finland
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10 Latvija

MVP: Mikael Granlund
Best forward: Mikael Granlund
Best d-man: Brandon Gormley
Best goalie: Johan Gustafsson

Allstar:

Evgeny Kuznetsov - Mikael Granlund - Johan Larsson
Brandon Gormley - Jonas Brodin
Johan Gustafsson
Quite optimistic. If Finland somehow manages to win, I will change my username to RaipeIsGod.

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Canada will win!
Hamilton will lead all in points.
Missing superstar NHLers or not Canada is the best and will play a all around physical game that the other teams can't "hang" with. It's gonna feel good to Be the best again!!!!

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12-04-2011, 12:59 PM
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If Team Canada doesn't screw up the roster (which they probably will, like they always do), I think they will win gold. I really like Tyler Bunz and I think he's better than the goalies we've had the last two years.

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12-04-2011, 01:51 PM
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Denmark

MVP- MacKinnon

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Canada
Russia
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Latvia
Denmark

MVP- MacKinnon
Unsure if that is a joke or not since Mackinnon wasn't invited to Canada's WJC camp.

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12-05-2011, 04:02 AM
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12-05-2011, 07:24 AM
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Last year’s gold medal victory for Russia was a fluke. And by “fluke” I mean, it should never have happened. I watched a few Russian games in person at the First Niagara HSBC arena and Niagara University to know Russia didn’t have what it took to win a gold medal. And after the first two periods of the gold-medal game, it certainly looked like Russia was down and out. But miraculously they came back.

How was last year's victory a fluke? How can a team who "doesn't have what it takes to win" win gold?......especially in the way it was done (3 come from behind victories)?

Last year's gold was all about talent, great coaching and especially heart and clutch play.

If Canada or USA pulled that off, it would be considered one of the greatest WJC stories of history.

Definitely a well deserved gold.

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12-05-2011, 08:41 AM
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How was last year's victory a fluke? How can a team who "doesn't have what it takes to win" win gold?......especially in the way it was done (3 come from behind victories)?

Last year's gold was all about talent, great coaching and especially heart and clutch play.

If Canada or USA pulled that off, it would be considered one of the greatest WJC stories of history.

Definitely a well deserved gold.
I wouldn't go that far. One one of the more epic collapses you'll see in international play.

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12-05-2011, 09:04 AM
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No such thing as a fluke game. Fluke goal, sure.

a 1 in a 1,000 type game , which is what makes sports great. Canada was ripe for the let down and Russia was ripe for taking it.

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12-05-2011, 09:08 AM
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I think that Finland has 2 youngest top prospects for this tourny. Barkov and ristolainen. That is nice to see. Barkov might be youngest player of the tournament. How about Jones? Will he make it?

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I wouldn't go that far. One one of the more epic collapses you'll see in international play.
Depends how you look at it.

Every great come from behind victory can be countered with a "we collapsed" excuse from the other side.

Is America's 1980 victory less of an achievement because the Soviets collapsed in the 3rd?

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12-05-2011, 09:23 AM
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No such thing as a fluke game. Fluke goal, sure.

a 1 in a 1,000 type game , which is what makes sports great. Canada was ripe for the let down and Russia was ripe for taking it.
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