The Sens do offer a very tempting chance for this NCAA defenseman. Over the next 3 years starting this off season there are going to openings. Kuba, Gilroy Gonchar, Phillips all have expiring contracts and will give younger players to step in over the next couple of years. A player should recognize and understand that they may need to spend some time in the AHL to round out their game and if they can play well will get the opportunity as this contracts expire.
This kid and Cowan would provide a scary tandem for years if things work out. If Murray can get this guy or another dman signed I think he focuses on getting a goalie prospect in the draft.
Goalie prospect? I like our odds right now with Lehner and Bishop, not to mention Andy is still signed. We are deeper than most teams as far as prospects go between the pipes
Goalie prospect? I like our odds right now with Lehner and Bishop, not to mention Andy is still signed. We are deeper than most teams as far as prospects go between the pipes
6'8", 21 years old, 17 points in 31 games so far this year. Yeah I guess I'd be interested. He could do a lot worse than signing with the Sens. Our defense prospects, while intriguing, are not exactly sure things.
Well boys we have some good news, even though it is far from a surprise.
Andrej Sustr, Defence
Nebraska-Omaha
Age: 21. Height: 6-8. Weight: 200.
Hometown: Pizen, Czech Republic
The skinny: A huge player, he attended the prospects camp of the New York Rangers last summer ... Ottawa Senators are believed to have interest in this defenceman.
Murrays have great success in the past signing UFA NCAA players, even before the Senators organization. I remember the Sens management saying they had interest in a 2nd year NCAA defenceman who chose to stay in NCAA for another year (Hope Sustr), would mean alot if they have been going after him for more then a year
The Sens do offer a very tempting chance for this NCAA defenseman. Over the next 3 years starting this off season there are going to openings. Kuba, Gilroy Gonchar, Phillips all have expiring contracts and will give younger players to step in over the next couple of years. A player should recognize and understand that they may need to spend some time in the AHL to round out their game and if they can play well will get the opportunity as this contracts expire.
This kid and Cowan would provide a scary tandem for years if things work out. If Murray can get this guy or another dman signed I think he focuses on getting a goalie prospect in the draft.
I think Gilroy can be in the Senators organization for next couple years, not sure if he fits into the same degree as the other three names. Wouldn't mine getting him into a two year, three million dollar type contract
Sounds like he might be worth taking a chance on, does anyone have a scouting report on him or can give some background info as to what type of defensemen he is/ his potential?
Well boys we have some good news, even though it is far from a surprise.
Andrej Sustr, Defence
Nebraska-Omaha
Age: 21. Height: 6-8. Weight: 200.
Hometown: Pizen, Czech Republic
The skinny: A huge player, he attended the prospects camp of the New York Rangers last summer ... Ottawa Senators are believed to have interest in this defenceman.
Murrays have great success in the past signing UFA NCAA players, even before the Senators organization. I remember the Sens management saying they had interest in a 2nd year NCAA defenceman who chose to stay in NCAA for another year (Hope Sustr), would mean alot if they have been going after him for more then a year
I would love to grab this kid. You have to think the Sens are interested in Dan DeKeyser as well, but the odds of stealing him from Detroit are slim.
I remember listening to some of the interviews by the Murray's at the time of signing Da Costa and they discussed their approach to NCAA & CHL free agents. They talked about how they only target a very select few of players, deciding that they only had interest from Wacey Hamilton of WHL and only targeted two NCAA guys (One of them was a junior player deciding not to sign at the time, really hope that they have inside on Sustr). Has helped them get the top guys so far.
JUst some small notes from article possibly giving a better inclination on who we are targeting.
We traded away a second round pick to get Turris,” Murray says. “We think we can get that second round pick back as a free agent.”
Assistant GM Tim Murray is out scouting a prospective free agent college player this weekend.
“They’re leaving earlier, no question,” Murray says, of the top prospects from the NCAA. “We’re talking this year about (signing) a freshman.”
It's nice to know that we're still hunting college free agents despite the depth we've acquired over the last few drafts. You can never have too many prospects.
Winchester and Butler were negligible acquisitions, but Da Costa is a very promising prospect with top-six potential. The beauty in adding a kid like Sustr is that it's a low-risk, high-reward move. Even if he's an absolute bust, he'll still provide a certain amount of competition come training camp.
It's nice to know that we're still hunting college free agents despite the depth we've acquired over the last few drafts. You can never have too many prospects.
Winchester and Butler were negligible acquisitions, but Da Costa is a very promising prospect with top-six potential. The beauty in adding a kid like Sustr is that it's a low-risk, high-reward move. Even if he's an absolute bust, he'll still provide a certain amount of competition come training camp.
Butler was a tank for us down the strech in the Binghamton Championship team, would not classify him as negligible.
Agreed on the never enough prospect approach, I am not a big believer that are prospect pool is that deep yet, we need to expand our depth like crazy to compensate for the loss of draftpicks in the coming years.
IE: 2012 2nd rounder(Turris), 2013 2nd Rounder(Bishop), and 2013 7th rounder(If Kilinkhammer plays three more games).
Our AHL team is not that good right now, wouldn't mind adding atleast two free-agent bodies to the line-up sooner rather then later
I remember listening to some of the interviews by the Murray's at the time of signing Da Costa and they discussed their approach to NCAA & CHL free agents. They talked about how they only target a very select few of players, deciding that they only had interest from Wacey Hamilton of WHL and only targeted two NCAA guys (One of them was a junior player deciding not to sign at the time, really hope that they have inside on Sustr). Has helped them get the top guys so far.
JUst some small notes from article possibly giving a better inclination on who we are targeting.
We traded away a second round pick to get Turris,” Murray says. “We think we can get that second round pick back as a free agent.”
Assistant GM Tim Murray is out scouting a prospective free agent college player this weekend.
“They’re leaving earlier, no question,” Murray says, of the top prospects from the NCAA. “We’re talking this year about (signing) a freshman.”
Could be Joey Laleggia...2nd in Dmen scoring in the entire NCAA to Justin Schultz. Undersized...but he plays the way we want our Dmen playing nowadays.
82 points in 58 games as an 18 year old in BCHL last year compared to Schultz' 50 in 49 games at the same age.
37 points in 36 games as a freshman compared to Schultz' 22 in 43 games as a freshman at the same age.
Could be Joey Laleggia...2nd in Dmen scoring in the entire NCAA to Justin Schultz. Undersized...but he plays the way we want our Dmen playing nowadays.
82 points in 58 games as an 18 year old in BCHL last year compared to Schultz' 50 in 49 games at the same age.
37 points in 36 games as a freshman compared to Schultz' 22 in 43 games as a freshman at the same age.
I wonder if he's grown/gotten bigger. Skill was never the issue for him, but he was really small if I remember correctly. Like 5'9 160 or something.
I wonder if he's grown/gotten bigger. Skill was never the issue for him, but he was really small if I remember correctly. Like 5'9 160 or something.
5'10 180 listed now.
I find people concern themselves way too much with height over weight. A kid that is 5'10 180 is often the same thickness as a kid that is 6'1 190...the taller kid probably has more room to grow but at 5'10 180....it's not so bad if his skills are high end.
I find people concern themselves way too much with height over weight. A kid that is 5'10 180 is often the same thickness as a kid that is 6'1 190...the taller kid probably has more room to grow but at 5'10 180....it's not so bad if his skills are high end.
5'10 180 is fine, but I think you'd agree 5'9 160 is too small. That's not nitpicking, that a reasonable conclusion about a persons ability to handle the physical demand of being an NHL player.
If he has indeed gotten bigger that would be an excellent signing.
EDIT: forgot to say that I totally agree with you re: height vs weight. Weight is key.
5'10 180 is fine, but I think you'd agree 5'9 160 is too small. That's not nitpicking, that a reasonable conclusion about a persons ability to handle the physical demand of being an NHL player.
If he has indeed gotten bigger that would be an excellent signing.
EDIT: forgot to say that I totally agree with you re: height vs weight. Weight is key.
Ya at some point a guy is just too light. But I've read from some pretty credible people that on average for a guy that is a similar "thickness" it's for every inch = 5 pounds. Not always the case, but supposed to be a good guess.
5'9 just won't fly for any scout, even by the off chance a kid is good enough....seeing that "9" instead of "10" likely makes GMs cringe that much more. It just looks way too small. Taking about Dmen here too.
Can anyone think of good Dmen that have been listed at 5'9 or below? Pretty sure Rafalski was listed 5'10 and even he had to bust ass and over prove himself to make it.
Can anyone think of good Dmen that have been listed at 5'9 or below? Pretty sure Rafalski was listed 5'10 and even he had to bust ass and over prove himself to make it.
Jared Spurgeon (Cowen's Spokane team mate) 5.08 175
Leads Wild in Points and +/- among D
I would think there are many D-men that would jump at the chance of maybe being paired with Karlsson in the future. Pick up some 2nd assists and it's insta-payday.
