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03-27-2012, 01:38 PM
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I would use a top 7 pick to pick a potential 2 C
Problem is, there is a very good chance the best players on the board will be d-men. I think Toronto, like most teams picking in the top 10, should just go with the best player available. A guy like Morgan Reilly or Reinhart might be a great pick right there, although nothing wrong with Toronto swinging for the fences with Galchenyuk either.

I'd say #7 is a tad early for Gaunce and Faksa, just because I think their upsides are 2nd liners at best, but the forward crop is pretty thin after the top guys either way, so if you're committing to going for a centerman, I suppose you could do worse. But it's a poor year to be chasing the best forward prospect in the top 15. Better value on the blueline.

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03-27-2012, 02:26 PM
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Problem is, there is a very good chance the best players on the board will be d-men. I think Toronto, like most teams picking in the top 10, should just go with the best player available. A guy like Morgan Reilly or Reinhart might be a great pick right there, although nothing wrong with Toronto swinging for the fences with Galchenyuk either.

I'd say #7 is a tad early for Gaunce and Faksa, just because I think their upsides are 2nd liners at best, but the forward crop is pretty thin after the top guys either way, so if you're committing to going for a centerman, I suppose you could do worse. But it's a poor year to be chasing the best forward prospect in the top 15. Better value on the blueline.
I agree with this. You're drafting 18 year olds who are potentially going to be with your team for a very long time, team needs change over time, the talent/ability of the player you draft does not. This draft reminds me a fair bit of 2008 - lots of high end talent on d, but reasonably slim picking other than a few studs on forward. In 2008 teams chased forwards, and you had guys like Filatov, Boedker, Bailey and Beach go in the 6-11 range, while guys like Myers, Karlsson, Gardiner, Sbisa and MDZ went in the 12-20 range. This draft is unlikely to be AS strong on dmen as 2008, which was one of the best dman drafts ever, but I think it could be similar in that the top dmen are on average a lot stronger than the top forwards, and that teams intent on picking forwards in that sort of 6-11 range could end up looking foolish. IMO every forward except Yakupov and Grigorenko have some fairly serious question marks (offensive upside with most of them, injuries with Galchenyuk, and I can't really comment on Forsberg), while there's a tonne of dmen who look likely to be top 4 guys at the NHL level, or even top pairing.

With that being said, I do like Gaunce. Good size, works really hard, plays a 2-way game, as long as you're not expecting him to be a #1 C offensively he could be a good pick, even decently high in the draft. If absolutely everything goes right in his development, he could end up at a level similar to ROR, and even if his offense doesn't end up on that level he could still be a Brandon Sutter level player (not comparing him directly to these two stylistically, more in terms of level of play/impact). Just don't expect him to be Ryan Getzlaf 2.0, because he doesn't seem to have that sort of elite level hands/skill.


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03-27-2012, 04:27 PM
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I agree with this. You're drafting 18 year olds who are potentially going to be with your team for a very long time, team needs change over time, the talent/ability of the player you draft does not. This draft reminds me a fair bit of 2008 - lots of high end talent on d, but reasonably slim picking other than a few studs on forward. In 2008 teams chased forwards, and you had guys like Filatov, Boedker, Bailey and Beach go in the 6-11 range, while guys like Myers, Karlsson, Gardiner, Sbisa and MDZ went in the 12-20 range. This draft is unlikely to be AS strong on dmen as 2008, which was one of the best dman drafts ever, but I think it could be similar in that the top dmen are on average a lot stronger than the top forwards, and that teams intent on picking forwards in that sort of 6-11 range could end up looking foolish. IMO every forward except Yakupov and Grigorenko have some fairly serious question marks (offensive upside with most of them, injuries with Galchenyuk, and I can't really comment on Forsberg), while there's a tonne of dmen who look likely to be top 4 guys at the NHL level, or even top pairing.

With that being said, I do like Gaunce. Good size, works really hard, plays a 2-way game, as long as you're not expecting him to be a #1 C offensively he could be a good pick, even decently high in the draft. If absolutely everything goes right in his development, he could end up at a level similar to ROR, and even if his offense doesn't end up on that level he could still be a Brandon Sutter level player (not comparing him directly to these two stylistically, more in terms of level of play/impact). Just don't expect him to be Ryan Getzlaf 2.0, because he doesn't seem to have that sort of elite level hands/skill.
Good call. That's a really great way of putting it actually. Chasing a player will often result in a mistake being made. Might as well go with BPA and get the best player available at that point, rather than chasing something you need.

Personally, I'm a big fan of Gaunce but I just think the Leafs have a similar player in Colborne. I wouldn't turn down Gaunce if he is indeed BPA, but if he isn't I'd rather go with a Reilly or Reinhart.

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I'm not a huge fan of Gaunce. Every time I see him he just seems to blend in. He somewhat reminds me of Ryan O'Marra back when he was an Otter.

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Congrats to the Nucks, solid pick at 26th overall. As I said 3 months ago, I don't see huge offensive upside there, but I can certainly see him developing into a solid 2-way #3 center. The Nucks have quite the hole at #3 C with Hodgson gone, not hard to see Gaunce stepping into that role within the next few years (assuming they can get a bandaid solution there in the meantime).

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Congrats to the Nucks, solid pick at 26th overall. As I said 3 months ago, I don't see huge offensive upside there, but I can certainly see him developing into a solid 2-way #3 center. The Nucks have quite the hole at #3 C with Hodgson gone, not hard to see Gaunce stepping into that role within the next few years (assuming they can get a bandaid solution there in the meantime).
Schroeder?

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Schroeder?
Friesen too.

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Friesen too.
Am I ever high on Friesen after reading up on his comparables.

Friesen-Gaunce-Hansen?

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Schroeder?
Yeah, definitely would not surprise me to see Schroeder slotted in as the #3 C next season, with Gaunce pushing him for that role long term. Schroeder definitely isn't your classic crash and bang defensive #3 C, but plenty of teams are going with 3 offensive lines now.

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Am I ever high on Friesen after reading up on his comparables.

Friesen-Gaunce-Hansen?
That'd be a nice 4rth line with Jensen-Schroeder-Kassian being the 3rd. Future looks bright?

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That'd be a nice 4rth line with Jensen-Schroeder-Kassian being the 3rd. Future looks bright?
Droooool.

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Who is on your 1st and 2nd lines if Kassian and Jensen are on your 3rd line

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Am I ever high on Friesen after reading up on his comparables.

Friesen-Gaunce-Hansen?
u mean Gaunce Friesen Hansen

Gaunce plays LW as well as C. Friesen was an elite faceoff and defensive specialist who could put up ppg numbers in the CHL. Theres no way he doesn't stay a center

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Who is on your 1st and 2nd lines if Kassian and Jensen are on your 3rd line
I'm assuming we'd roll with our current configuration of Sedins + Kesler.

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u mean Gaunce Friesen Hansen

Gaunce plays LW as well as C. Friesen was an elite faceoff and defensive specialist who could put up ppg numbers in the CHL. Theres no way he doesn't stay a center
My mistake. This is even better. My fantasy of Friesen becoming Bolland 2.0 can live on.

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you think the Sedin's will still be 1st liners 3-5 years from now?

It's easily possible but I wouldn't bank on it

I can see Kassian on your 3rd line but I'd imagine Jensen getting a long look with the Sedins or Kesler on one of the top 2 lines

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Who is on your 1st and 2nd lines if Kassian and Jensen are on your 3rd line
I'd see Jensen and maybe Kassian. Kesler as well. We'll likely need to start replacing the Sedins at some point. Certianly I would still expect the Sedins to be top liners for another 3 to 4 years.

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anyone else think Gaunce is like Hodgson with less scoring?

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anyone else think Gaunce is like Hodgson with less scoring?
Bigger.

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well ya but playing style wise. Hodgson obviously had better hands buhh Gaunce makes up for that with his size to help him protect the puck

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you think the Sedin's will still be 1st liners 3-5 years from now?

It's easily possible but I wouldn't bank on it

I can see Kassian on your 3rd line but I'd imagine Jensen getting a long look with the Sedins or Kesler on one of the top 2 lines
The Sedins are two of the most durable players in the league. With the style of hockey they play, I have no doubt in my mind that they will be playing until they are 40

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Brendan Gaunce

What do the Canucks have in him. I'd like to hear from people that have seen him on a regular basis. Is this a steal at #26?

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What do the Canucks have in him. I'd like to hear from people that have seen him on a regular basis. Is this a steal at #26?
He has some issues, namely his speed. He is projected as a third line C, which I guess is a "steal" at 26, but nothing too great.

I may be biased, he really played bad in Ottawa this year. Saw him 7 times, he came away with 4 assists, and if I did not know his name beforehand, i would have laughed if someone told me he was a first round pick. Mind you I also know he played much better against other teams given his stats, so there is more to him than I had a chance to observe.

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