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12-05-2011, 12:40 AM
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This team is built for the playoffs

In years past, the wings were almost like a Washington type team it seemed. They relied on all offense through the regular season, and once scoring gets tougher in the playoffs, they suddenly werent doing as well.

This year the wings have the 6th best GA/G, and are .07 off from number 1.

There PK has been great the last little while, seemingly now that they are adjusted to their new systems they've been using. They said they have been top 5 or so the last month on the broadcast tonight.

They have the second lowest shots against per game.

Theyre top half of the league on faceoffs

Theyve also got the 8th ranked PP.

This team is finally a defense first team it seems, like they were back in 08. The last few seasons they havent been all that great defensively and now they finally are. I think this is gonna make for some much better outcomes against teams like the sharks in the playoffs this year.

Having good special teams is critical come playoffs and both seem to be great.

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12-05-2011, 01:15 AM
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Respect for putting this up right after a loss. Usually this board is very 'knee jerky' if ya know what I mean.

The defense has definitely been great. I think the whole puck possession game hasn't looked this good since 08 (strictly regular season). I'm not saying it looks the same as 08, just closer than in recent years.

I've always been a believer of the old phrase "defense wins championships".

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The defense has been better, I wouldn't call it great.

A lot of games it has been Howard that is stellar.

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This is the same team as last year.

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This is the same team as last year.
not necessarily,I think you're underestimating the difference that two new assistant coaches can make

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This is the same team as last year.
In some ways it is, but definitely not totally the same team.

1. Howard is looking more solid than ever.

2. Filppula is on fire. Hopefully it stays that way.

These two factors alone give me much more hope.

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12-05-2011, 02:49 AM
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Having good special teams is critical come playoffs and both seem to be great.
And here I thought you were going to post a lineup with Shane Doan in it. Or at least one with more size and grit in the top six.

The PK still needs to take some massive steps forward but they've still shown some significant improvements on defense.

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12-05-2011, 04:24 AM
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The defense has been better, I wouldn't call it great.

A lot of games it has been Howard that is stellar.
Howard's high save percentage is a combination of him playing very well and the D controlling the play. No goaltender can have a high save percentage if there are rebounds that don't get cleared up or odd man rushes.

So far Jimmy has had the make the first save and he's been incredible at controlling the rebound. When he doesn't, the D has been there to tie up the opponents or clear the puck. Really, the two are working together so very well.

Part of why Howard looks so much better than Conklin is that rebound control. Note tonight, against the Avs, that huge rebound that Landeskog pounded on net. He got back to back slap shots, basically. It's the little things like that which lead to more scoring chances against and make the life of a defender and goaltender harder.

The only goalie I've seen be truly great and put up great numbers without great D? Hasek. That guy was unreal in Buffalo. But all the other great goalies, including Thomas, get a ton of help. Tons.

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PP has to be better (has allowed too many SH goals)
PK has to be much better.

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No it's not, not enough heavy bodies, not enough aggresiveness and the lack of another top-6 forward is very obvious.

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What's best at this season, the 5 vs. 5 play is extremely better than last seasons.

That's what matter at the playoffs, when the referees will swallow their whistles.

Boston Bruins is the best 5 on 5 team in the league, not a surprice they are the champions.

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In years past, the wings were almost like a Washington type team it seemed. They relied on all offense through the regular season, and once scoring gets tougher in the playoffs, they suddenly werent doing as well.

This year the wings have the 6th best GA/G, and are .07 off from number 1.

There PK has been great the last little while, seemingly now that they are adjusted to their new systems they've been using. They said they have been top 5 or so the last month on the broadcast tonight.

They have the second lowest shots against per game.

Theyre top half of the league on faceoffs

Theyve also got the 8th ranked PP.

This team is finally a defense first team it seems, like they were back in 08. The last few seasons they havent been all that great defensively and now they finally are. I think this is gonna make for some much better outcomes against teams like the sharks in the playoffs this year.

Having good special teams is critical come playoffs and both seem to be great.
I agree completely about the defense being where it needs to be in order to be a successful playoff team. We weren't far from being able to knock off the Sharks last year, I think we were more competitive than the previous year in the playoffs. I do think we need a bit more scoring depth. I'd be shocked if Ken Holland didn't make an acquisition prior to the trade deadline given the amount of cap space we have available.

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12-05-2011, 11:08 AM
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not necessarily,I think you're underestimating the difference that two new assistant coaches can make
Yeah if you watch the games or look up the statistics this is a much more responsible team on defense. It's blatantly obvious.

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12-05-2011, 11:31 AM
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Agreed that this team is built for the playoffs, but they have been for a while. I know the conventional wisdom is that the Wings have sucked the last two years, but their playoff performances were actually really good. Even when they lost to San Jose in 5 games they were still close games. Every player steps up their game in the playoffs and the only team I'm concerned about is San Jose. They play us tough, like Anaheim used to, and sooner or later the Wings will get past them.

Their struggles in the regular season usually don't carry over into the playoffs. But with them being a more sound defensive team, I feel more comfortable than the last few years going into the playoffs. Only now I tend to worry about their scoring but I guess the stats show I shouldn't be.

EDIT: And I get so tired about hearing about size. The Wings don't get pushed around anymore. They don't usually dominate the other team but they hold their own. Again, the only team that really gives us trouble is San Jose, and they're not as big anymore. Would be nice to have someone who can shut down Thornton's long reach, though. Breaking up their cycling play is how the Wings will beat them in the playoffs.

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12-05-2011, 12:21 PM
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built for the playoffs as long as they don't meet san jose.

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Howard's high save percentage is a combination of him learning to control rebounds and the D not screwing up.
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The only goalie I've seen be truly great and put up great numbers without great D? Hasek. That guy was unreal in Buffalo.
Buffalo's defense, despite the lack of big-names, was excellent at keeping the opponent from getting doorstep chances and slot chances. They sacrificed offense and other defensive coverage to cover Hasek's one major flaw-rebound control. His defense was far from the Swiss cheese everyone makes it to be.

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Would be nice to have someone who can shut down Thornton's long reach, though. Breaking up their cycling play is how the Wings will beat them in the playoffs.
Well, if he's not on a scoring line, then I present your new checking line center...


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12-05-2011, 12:40 PM
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This is the same team as last year.
Thankfully San Jose and Anaheim aren't...

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really needed a 3000px picture of hudler for no reason.

great work, eva.

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12-05-2011, 12:59 PM
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This is the same team as last year.
Teams can't play better from year to year? Is everyone on the team still playing the same as last year?

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12-05-2011, 01:27 PM
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The main thing I see is we are not turning the puck over like last year. Last year were turned the puck over 12~14 times a period. Half of the goals we gave up were gifts and then ozgood was crap.

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Teams can't play better from year to year? Is everyone on the team still playing the same as last year?
Sorry.
Like last year, but another year older/slower.

You want to believe that this team is better, and therefore do nothing to improve it, good for you.

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really needed a 3000px picture of hudler for no reason.

great work, eva.
Ya, what the hecht!? Is Hecht our new checking line center?

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Sorry.
Like last year, but another year older/slower.
So none of our young players have improved at all, eh? Everyone is older, slower and worse?

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You want to believe that this team is better, and therefore do nothing to improve it, good for you.
rofl what? How do you come up with this ****?

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Teams can't play better from year to year? Is everyone on the team still playing the same as last year?
Flip is better, Howard is better.

Z is worse (on pace for 48 pts), Cleary is way worse.

I see a team that has improved defensively but has regressed on the offensive side and has thus far been buoyed by all-star caliber goaltending and an incredibly productive blueline. I guess whether this team is better or a 'contender' really depends on whether those two trends can endure right up through April; seems dubious.

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Lol this is not the same team defensively and it's blantanly obvious

CB is just trying to argue for the sake of argueing

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