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12-16-2011, 07:25 PM
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12-16-2011, 08:17 PM
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Who do you guys prefer between Cirella and Skrastins?

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I see Travis Green was picked. He deserves to be remembered here if only for his yeoman work in the 2002 playoffs. He stepped up and played over 20 minutes per game in 20 playoff games as an injury-plagued Leafs team made the conference finals, and he took and won a ton of big faceoffs.

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12-16-2011, 09:43 PM
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I will no longer be a co-manager of the Soviet Wings, as I've been much more busy than I officially anticipated. If I had known I would not have committed to this.

I'd like to give my thanks to Reen who has done an excellent job keeping up on things albeit being busy.

I'll be at the ATD with bells on!

Good luck with the rest of the draft guys!

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12-16-2011, 11:02 PM
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HC Krylya Sovetov select: Dan Girardi D a good defensive defenseman playing insane minutes since the day he entered the league.He is currently playing 27 minutes a night on the Ranger squad.


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12-17-2011, 04:23 AM
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The Engineers draft Gord Lane, a stay-at-home defenseman who was a three-time leader in PIMs for Washington, winning the most improved award from the franchise the year before the NYI signed him to bring a much needed grit and toughness to the back end ("the missing piece" coach Arbour would later say), so Lane became a role-playing contributor to a Stanley Cup dynasty playing the lion's share of all four cup postseason victories with significant playoff PIMs (set an NHL then-record number in the 1980 postseason, led the team in PIMs in two of the four cup-winning playoff years) and two decent regular season +/- seasons. He was paired with Langevin and at least one championship season with Morrow (1980-81). He actually scored 17 points in the four Stanley Cup postseasons, significant in showing he was on the ice throughout the dynasty years. If he had had more full regular seasons he'd have been drafted much earlier this year. But there's no mistaking his playoff role mixing things up on the blueline AND playing decent defensively! A quality role-playing third pairing defenseman! At worst he's a quality 6/7 guy for certain game situations.



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He was paired with Dave Langevin and as a duo the two played solid, kitty-bar-the-door defense that laid the necessary foundation to help lead the club to four-straight Stanley Cup victories. Lane has been credited as being the team's most effective defender during that era.
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Every championship team needs that one player to do the little things that may go unnoticed, but certainly not unappreciated. Gord Lane was the defender the Islanders needed to help bring greatness to Long Island.

Lane was drafted by the Pittsburgh Penguins in the 1973 NHL Entry Draft, but at the time was known more for his fists than his hockey play while in the minor league system. After several years in the minor leagues, Lane signed a contract with the Washington Capitals in 1976. After leaving the Capitals early in the 1979-80 season because of a contract dispute, Lane was ready to explore a new career path when Islanders GM Bill Torrey came calling.

Paired with Dave Langevin, Lane flourished in his new role with the Islanders. He was the tough stay at home defender that the Islanders had been looking for. It turned out to be a match made in heaven, as the Islanders won their first of four straight championships that season.

Lane would play a total of six seasons with the Islanders, totaling nine goals and 51 assists in 304 regular season games. In six playoff seasons on the Island, Lane tallied 17 points in 75 games.
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The Isles’ head coach, Al Arbour, immediately recognized Lane’s value as a stay-at-home defenseman. While not putting up a ton of points from the blue line, Lane is credited by the Islanders with anchoring the defense that helped win four straight Stanley Cups between 1980 and 1983. He was injured and missed most of the 1984 playoffs when the high flying, Edmonton Oilers’ offense out skated the Islanders to the Stanley Cup. There has been speculation that the outcome of that Cup Final and subsequent Oilers’ dynasty would have looked much different if Lane had been patrolling the Isles’ end.

Gord Lane was a prototypical, shutdown defenseman. If he were still playing in the league today, he would be one of those names that would pop up at the trade deadline as GMs look for solid defensemen for Cup runs.
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12-17-2011, 10:04 AM
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I can talk about Gord Lane's merits later, but for now - thank the hockey gods we all came to our senses and at least made him wait longer than Craig Muni this time.

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12-17-2011, 10:12 AM
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where do you guys find your PP and PK stats , or any shady stats like this? Sometimes you guys come out with stats I just don't know where to find.

Like PP points or % ( same with PK ).

Also I know there's way , but how you check out for defensemen points ranking for a single year?

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12-17-2011, 11:01 AM
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12-17-2011, 11:01 AM
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Pentti Lund was only the second Finnish born player in the NHL ever (after Al Pudas). He was also the second European born player ever to win the Calder Trophy as the Rookie of the year in 1949 (after Dave "Sweeney" Schriner).

Pentti was born in Karijoki, Finland 1925 and came to Thunder Bay in Canada as a six-year old. He got all his hockey training over in North America. Before he came to the NHL he played for the Port Arthur West-Enders / Navy in the Thunder Bay junior hockey league where he led the league in scoring two seasons in a row. He also spend three years in the Canadian navy during WW II. Pentti continued with his success in the EHL where he played for the Boston Olympics. He led all playoff scorers in the 1946 playoffs with 13 goals. The next season (1946-47) he dominated the EHL and scored a league high 49 goals and 92 pts in 56 games for the Olympics. He was also the leading scorer in the playoffs with 8 assists and 15 pts. His impressive season even gave him the opportunity to make his NHL debut with the Boston Bruins in the 1947 playoffs (one game).

He played in two more playoff games the next season before Boston shipped him to the NY Rangers to complete an earlier transaction involving Grant Warwick on February 6, 1948. As a rookie for the NY Rangers, Pentti was an instant hit,scoring 30 points (14+16) in 59 games. Although his numbers aren't impressive by today standards it was enough to earn him the Calder Trophy.

The next season (1949-50) Pentti scored 18 goals,but he was more noted for his heroics in the playoffs. He not only led all playoff scorers with 11 points (6+5) in 12 games but also managed to shut down Montreal's super star Maurice "Rocket " Richard. Richard only managed to score in one of the five games thanks to Pentti's relentless checking of him
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Pentti himself managed to score a hat trick in a 4-1 win in game 3. After the series he was dubbed "Lucky Lund" by the Montreal media. He then continued with his fine play in the finals where the Rangers eventually lost in 7 games to Detroit.

His playoff heroics proved to be his last big moment in the NHL. He slumped to just four goals and 20 pts in 1950-51. He was dealt back to Boston with Gus Kyle for Paul Ronty on September 20, 1951. Pentti suffered a serious eye injury during the 1951-52 season that almost ended his career. He rebounded back from the injury and played the entire season in Boston where he scored 17 points (8+9). Pentti finished his career with the Soo Greyhounds of the NOHA. (North Ontario Hockey Association). where he played until 1955.
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Menin kuitenkin varsin pian jäälle, enkä tunnustanut, että silmävamma oli niin paha kuin se todellisuudessa oli. Näin toisella silmällä vain vähän valoa, mutta ajattelin, että voin silti jatkaa uraani.

" I returned to ice quite soon and didn't confess how bad my eye injury really was. I only saw some light on my other eye, but I though I could still continue my career"
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Olin kauden alla aika hyvässä kunnossa, mutta valmennusleirillä selkäni kipeytyi ja jouduin olemaan pari viikkoa sivussa otteluista. Selkä vaivasi jatkossakin jonkin verran, mutta pelasin kuitenkin 54 ottelua ja niissä kertyi 17 (8+9) tehopistettä.

"I was in quite good shape before season started, but at the training camp I hurt my back and I missed couple weeks. I had some back problems during season, but I still played 54 games and got 17 (8+9) points."


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12-17-2011, 11:08 AM
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HC Krylya Sovetov select a player that might even end up being a spare but since I know him well maybe I can sell some intangibles here and there.He's got four 50 pts seasons including a 60 pts one and two 30 goals season + decent playoff success.He is also a underrated hitter and a good powerplay sniper.His defensive flaws are also exaggerated by many people.Even if I use him as a spare , this player can back any wingers on the team easily and is therefore a luxury to have in case of injuries: Michael Ryder RW



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12-17-2011, 11:09 AM
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12-17-2011, 11:26 AM
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Just to confirm, do you mean Dave McLlwain?

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Just to confirm, do you mean Dave McLlwain?
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where do you guys find your PP and PK stats , or any shady stats like this? Sometimes you guys come out with stats I just don't know where to find.

Like PP points or % ( same with PK ).

Also I know there's way , but how you check out for defensemen points ranking for a single year?
http://www.hockey-reference.com/play...psl_finder.cgi

->Search for Combined Seasons

->Type in the year (1980-81 to 1980-81)

->Position: Defensemen (can do any position)

->Sort by: Points (or goals or assists or whatever you want)

I'll do my best to explain the % thing, but it might not be totally clear. I'll use Gretzky as the example:

Go here

http://www.hockey-reference.com/play...gretzwa01.html

Scroll down to the table with points per game stats and that stuff and pick a year, let's say 85-86. Go to PGF(power play goals for) and PGA(power play goals against), where Gretzky has 69 and 42 respectively. Then, click on the blue EDM thing corresponding to 85-86. At the top there is a table with PP(power play goals for) and PPA(power play goals against). PP is 78, and PPA is 77. You divide the PPG for Gretzky was on the ice for (69) by 78, which equals 88%. Same thing for PPA, which equals 54%. I'm not sure where PP points comes from, but PP goals can be found on any player's page on hockeyreference. I don't know where seventies gets the % league averages though.

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12-17-2011, 12:22 PM
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Solid pick with Dafoe. Surprised someone who was a second team all star to Hasek would still be available. He never repeated that great season but it's not like he was awful otherwise.

Also, he totally had our numbers in NHL 2000

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Solid pick with Dafoe. Surprised someone who was a second team all star to Hasek would still be available. He never repeated that great season but it's not like he was awful otherwise.

Also, he totally had our numbers in NHL 2000
My guess is that the way he went out of the league makes people forget how good he were before that.

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Dafoe was #1/2 on my list for a backup.

He did haved a great season there,but at the time I was not convinced he was actually close to the leagues 2nd best goalie, and I still am not. But he did have a solid, decent length career.

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Dafoe was #1/2 on my list for a backup.

He did haved a great season there,but at the time I was not convinced he was actually close to the leagues 2nd best goalie, and I still am not. But he did have a solid, decent length career.
I think at this point it's only natural I correct my Larocque mistake and put Dafoe as my starter and Larocque as my back up.Larocque is a natural in this situation and I trust Dafoe to handle the big games.

I can't say for sure he was the 2nd best that year but a I clearly remember the Dafoe era and he was a pretty solid goalie overall.

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http://www.hockey-reference.com/play...psl_finder.cgi

->Search for Combined Seasons

->Type in the year (1980-81 to 1980-81)

->Position: Defensemen (can do any position)

->Sort by: Points (or goals or assists or whatever you want)

I'll do my best to explain the % thing, but it might not be totally clear. I'll use Gretzky as the example:

Go here

http://www.hockey-reference.com/play...gretzwa01.html

Scroll down to the table with points per game stats and that stuff and pick a year, let's say 85-86. Go to PGF(power play goals for) and PGA(power play goals against), where Gretzky has 69 and 42 respectively. Then, click on the blue EDM thing corresponding to 85-86. At the top there is a table with PP(power play goals for) and PPA(power play goals against). PP is 78, and PPA is 77. You divide the PPG for Gretzky was on the ice for (69) by 78, which equals 88%. Same thing for PPA, which equals 54%. I'm not sure where PP points comes from, but PP goals can be found on any player's page on hockeyreference. I don't know where seventies gets the % league averages though.
thanks

seventies , care to tell us where you get your league average or PP points stats?


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My public dropbox folder: http://db.tt/EcAoCpnF

There are a couple other files in there that would be meaningless to you, but the four spreadsheets come in handy. 95% of the time I am using a spreadsheet, it is one of these four.

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I will just pick 4 guys tomorrow.

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