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If Makarov would come to NHL in his prime

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12-05-2011, 06:13 PM
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If Makarov would come to NHL in his prime

I mean not being 31 years old, but say 24-25, what statistics he could have?

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12-06-2011, 01:31 AM
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well, if he could score almost 90 points on the wrong side of thirty and adjusting to a completely new rink size and style of play, and score 30 goals twice in the years leading up 35, my guess is at least 50 goals/100 points every season of his prime.

michel goulet's peak was 55 goals, 120 points. that sounds like a good ballpark for makarov. no idea how goulet got that many assists in any year, but makarov was an excellent playmaker, probably the best playmaking winger of his generation. 65-70 assists would not be out of the question, neither would 60 goals. not sure he could put together 60 goals and 70 assists in the same season though.

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40|70 110 - 45|75 120

depends on what teams he plays on too, linemates, coach

look at peter stastny's stats, i think he would have done something like that, and stastny got 139 points in a season, kent nilsson got 131

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He would have been at least a Stastny/Hawerchuk/Savard level performer. Personally I think he was better than any of those guys.

2nd best forward on the planet from about 1981 until the rise of Lemieux in 1987.

It can't be said too many times what an utter travesty his non-induction to the HHOF is. He is a more worthy canditate than 75% of the players currently enshrined.

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He would have been at least a Stastny/Hawerchuk/Savard level performer. Personally I think he was better than any of those guys.

2nd best forward on the planet from about 1981 until the rise of Lemieux in 1987.

It can't be said too many times what an utter travesty his non-induction to the HHOF is. He is a more worthy canditate than 75% of the players currently enshrined.
Better than Bossy and Trottier?

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Better than Bossy and Trottier?
I can see that argument for the 7 year period between 81-87

Here is the scoring list from that period

http://www.hockey-reference.com/play...rder_by=points

Makarov would have been 22-28 in those years.

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He would have been at least a Stastny/Hawerchuk/Savard level performer. Personally I think he was better than any of those guys.

2nd best forward on the planet from about 1981 until the rise of Lemieux in 1987.

It can't be said too many times what an utter travesty his non-induction to the HHOF is. He is a more worthy canditate than 75% of the players currently enshrined.
I will never understand it. And let's be honest here, it's not like Makarov is the only non-NHL player who deserves a place there. I can see quite robust cases for at least Vasiliev, Petrov, Mikhailov, Krutov, Suchy and Holecek as well. I mean I do like that Larionov, Fetisov, Kharlamov and Tretiak are in there, but I don't understand why they are. It should be obvious to anyone that the induction committee doesn't consider international records.

The Hall that exists is not the Hockey Hall Of Fame, it's the NHL Hall of Fame with three Soviet guest stars.

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Better than Bossy and Trottier?
Sacrilege.

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I think had Makarov came to the NHL in the early 80's he would have been a perennial 100-point scorer.

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I think he would have been the dominate RW of the 80's. He had more talent than Bossy or Kurri and if he had broken in the NHL as a 20 year old, I think only Gretzky would have gotten more points in the 80's.

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Better than Bossy and Trottier?
Fact is he was the dominate Soviet forward of the era. Do you really think Canada had three forwards better than the best the Soviets had to offer? Considering how good those Soviet teams were, it seems impossible that their best wouldn't be a top 2 or 3 forward in the world.

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Fact is he was the dominate Soviet forward of the era. Do you really think Canada had three forwards better than the best the Soviets had to offer? Considering how good those Soviet teams were, it seems impossible that their best wouldn't be a top 2 or 3 forward in the world.
I think there's a very good case that Makarov was the 2nd best forward in the world until Lemieux came along. He was the dominant non-Gretzky performer at Canada Cups, after all.

But I'd like to see the case developed further.

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