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Game 26 | Detroit Red Wings @ St. Louis Blues | 7:30 PM EST | FS-D (HD) | ‎

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Game Information


TV/Radio:
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Referees: Tom Kowal (#32) and Chris Rooney (#5)
Linesmen: Tim Nowak (#77) and Pierre Racicot (#65)

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Team Comparison:
Vs.
25 GP 26
16 Wins 14
8 Losses 9
1 OTL 3
33 Points 31
0.660 P% 0.596
2.96 G/G 2.42
2.24 GA/G 2.12
19.4 PP% 9.2
80.6 PK% 80.2
34.7 S/G 30.6
27.3 SA/G 26.3
51.0 FO% 49.0


Previous game: Chicago Blackhawks @ St. Louis Blues 5 - 2
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St. Louis Blues

Team Statistics:
Goals Scored Assist Points
David Backes (9) Kevin Shattenkirk (12) Alexander Steen (18)
Plus/Minus Goals Against Average Goalie Save Percentage
Alexander Steen (+12) Brian Elliott (1.53) Brian Elliott (.945)
Wins Shut out wins Penalty Minutes
Brian Elliott (10) Brian Elliott (3) Chris Stewart (46)


Team Injuries:
Position Player Injury Status
C Evgeny Grachev Facial Injury Out
RW B.J. Crombeen Shoulder Out
D Carlo Colaiacovo Hamstring Doubtful


Projected Lineup:
Left Wing Center Right Wing
Alex Steen TJ Oshie David Backes
David Perron Patrik Berglund Chris Stewart
Matt D'Agostini Vladimir Sobotka Jamie Langenbrunner
Kevin Porter Jason Arnott Scott Nichol

Left Defenseman Right Defenseman
Carlo Colaiacovo Alex Pietrangelo
Barrett Jackman Kevin Shattenkirk
Kris Russell Roman Polak

Goaltender
Brian Elliott


In the spotlight:
Center Right Wing Defenseman (R)


Roster:
Forwards:
Name POS NO DOB HT WT SH POB DRAFT
Patrik Berglund C 21 6/2/1988 6-3 211 L Vesteras, SWE St. Louis(2006)1,25
Jason Arnott C 44 10/11/1974 6-5 220 R Collingwood, CAN Edmonton(1993)1,7
Evgeny Grachev C 78 2/21/1990 6-4 225 R Khabarovsk, Russia NYR(2008)3,75
Scott Nichol C 12 12/31/1974 5-9 180 R Edmonton, CAN Buffalo(1993)11,272
Andy McDonald C 10 8/25/1977 5-10 190 L Stratford, CAN Undrafted
TJ Oshie C 74 12/23/1986 5-11 201 R Mt. Vernon, USA St. Louis(2005)1,24
Vladimir Sobotka C 17 7/2/1987 5-10 183 L Trebic, CZE Boston(2005)4,106
Alexander Steen C 20 3/1/1984 6-1 205 L Winnipeg, CAN Toronto(2002)1,24
David Perron L 57 5/28/1988 6-0 180 R Sherbrooke, CAN St. Louis(2007)1,26
Chris Porter L 32 5/29/1984 6-2 205 L Toronto, CAN Undrafted
Brad Winchester L 15 3/1/1981 6-5 228 L Madison, USA Edmonton(2000)2,35
David Backes R 42 5/1/1984 6-3 220 R Minneapolis, USA St. Louis(2003)2,62
BJ Crombeen R 26 7/10/1985 6-2 212 R Denver, USA Dallas(2003)2,54
Matt D'Agostini R 36 10/23/1986 5-11 170 R Sault Ste. Marie, CAN Montreal(2005)6,190
Ryan Reaves R 75 1/20/1987 6-2 193 R Winnipeg, CAN St. Louis(2005)5,156
Chris Stewart R 25 10/30/1987 6-2 228 R Toronto, CAN Colorado(2006)1,18
Jamie Langenbrunner R 15 6/24/1975 6-1 202 R Cloquet, USA Dallas(1993)2,35


Defense:
Name POS NO DOB HT WT SH POB DRAFT
Carlo Colaiacovo D 28 1/27/1983 6-1 200 L Toronto, CAN Toronto(2001)1,17
Ian Cole D 23 2/21/1989 6-1 211 L Ann Arbour, USA St. Louis(2007)1,18
Barret Jackman D 5 3/5/1981 6-0 203 L Trail, CAN St. Louis(1999)1,17
Kris Russell D 4 5/2/1987 5-10 172 L Caroline, CAN Columbus(2005)3,67
Kent Huskins D 6 5/4/1979 6-4 210 L Almonte, CAN Chicago(1998)6,156
Alex Pietrangelo D 27 1/18/1990 6-3 199 R King City, CAN St. Louis(2008)1,4
Roman Polak D 46 4/28/1986 6-0 232 R Ostrava, CZE St. Louis(2004)6,180
Kevin Shattenkirk D 12 1/29/1989 5-11 193 R Greenwich, USA Colorado(2007)1,14


Goalies:
Name POS NO DOB HT WT CATCHES POB DRAFT
Brian Elliott G 1 4/9/1985 6-3 204 L Newmarket, CAN Ottawa(2003)9,291
Jaroslav Halak G 41 5/13/1985 5-11 182 L Bratislava, SVK Montreal(2003)9,271


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Previous game: Detroit Red Wings @ Colorado Avalanche 2 - 4
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Detroit Red Wings
Team Statistics:
Team Statistics:
Goals Scored Assist Points
Johan Franzen (12) Pavel Datsyuk (16) Johan Franzen (25)
Plus/Minus Goals Against Average Goalie Save Percentage
Ian White (+13) Jimmy Howard (1.83) Jimmy Howard (.931)
Wins Shut out wins Penalty Minutes
Jimmy Howard (15) Jimmy Howard (3) Jonathan Ericsson (23)


Team Injuries:
Position Player Injury Status
C/LW Valtteri Filppula Deep cut right shin Out
RW Patrick Eaves Fractured Jaw Out
D Mike Commodore Healthy scratch Out


Projected Lineup:
Left Wing Center Right Wing
Johan Franzen Pavel Datsyuk Todd Bertuzzi
Daniel Cleary Henrik Zetterberg Jiri Hudler
Chris Conner Darren Helm Justin Abdelkader
Drew Miller Cory Emmerton Tomas Holmstrom

Left Defenseman Right Defenseman
Nicklas Lidstrom Ian White
Niklas Kronwall Jonathan Ericsson
Jakub Kindl Brad Stuart

Goaltender
Jimmy Howard


In the spotlight:
Right Wing Left Wing Center


Roster:
Forwards:
Name POS NO DOB HT WT SH POB DRAFT
Pavel Datsyuk C 13 7/20/1978 5-11 197 L Sverdlovsk, RUS Detroit(1998)6,171
Cory Emmerton C 48 6/1/1988 6-0 177 L St. Thomas, CAN Detroit(2006)2,41
Valtteri Filppula C 51 3/20/1984 5-11 174 L Vantaa, FIN Detroit(2002)3,95
Johan Franzen C 93 12/23/1979 6-3 220 L Vetlanda, SWE Detroit(2004)3,97
Darren Helm C 43 1/21/1987 5-11 172 L Winnipeg, CAN Detroit(2005)5,132
Jiri Hudler C 26 1/4/1984 5-9 178 L Olomouc, CZE Detroit(2002)2,58
Justin Abdelkader L 8 2/25/1987 6-1 210 L Muskegon, USA Detroit(2005)2,42
Fabian Brunnstrom L 76 2/6/1985 6-2 203 L Jonstorp, SWE Undrafted
Tomas Holmstrom L 96 1/23/1973 6-0 202 L Pitea, SWE Detroit(1994)10,257
Drew Miller L 20 2/17/1984 6-2 185 L Dover, USA Anaheim(2003)6,186
Henrik Zetterberg L 40 10/9/1980 5-11 195 L Sundsvall, SWE Detroit(1999)7,210
Todd Bertuzzi R 44 2/2/1975 6-3 227 L Sudbury, CAN Ny Islanders(1993)1,23
Danny Cleary R 11 12/18/1978 6-0 210 L Carbonear, CAN Chicago(1997)1,13
Patrick Eaves R 17 5/1/1984 5-11 190 R Calgary, CAN Ottawa(2003)1,29

Defense:
Name POS NO DOB HT WT SH POB DRAFT
Mike Commodore D 22 11/7/1979 6-5 228 R Fort Saskatchewan, CAN New Jersey(1999)2,42
Jonathan Ericsson D 52 3/2/1984 6-5 201 L Karlskrona, SWE Detroit(2002)9,291
Jakub Kindl D 4 2/10/1987 6-3 199 L Sumperk, CZE Detroit(2005)1,19
Niklas Kronwall D 55 1/12/1981 6-0 189 L Stockholm, SWE Detroit(2000)1,29
Nicklas Lidstrom D 5 4/28/1970 6-1 193 L Vasteras, SWE Detroit(1989)3,53
Brad Stuart D 23 11/6/1979 6-2 213 L Rocky Mountain House, CAN San Jose(1998)1,3
Ian White D 18 6/4/1984 5-10 191 R Winnepeg, CAN Toronto(2002)6,191

Goalies:
Name POS NO DOB HT WT SH POB DRAFT
Ty Conklin G 29 3/30/1976 6-0 184 L Anchorage, USA Undrafted
Jimmy Howard G 35 3/26/1984 6-0 218 L Syracuse, USA Detroit(2003)2,64

Starting Goaltender



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Mike Babcock: Red Wings need to be more physical, especially against the Blues
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ST. LOUIS -- The Detroit Red Wings haven’t lost many games lately, but when they have, the primary reason is apparent to coach Mike Babcock: a lack of physicality.

That was the case in Sunday’s 4-2 loss at Colorado and in their 2-1 setback at St. Louis on Nov. 15, a game that was more one-sided than the score indicates.

They face the Blues again Tuesday at Scottrade Center, and they better bring their hard hats.

"We weren’t physical enough (Sunday)," Babcock said Monday. "When we play our best, we’re physical on the forecheck, on the grind, we’re wearing the other team out, our (defensemen) are allowed to be up and active. If you want your "D" to play with their face against the glass all night, I don’t know how they’re supposed to have any success and make any plays.

"So you got to decide: Do you want your "D" to get worn out or do you want their "D" to get worn out?"

The Blues have been wearing out teams since Ken Hitchcock took over as coach on Nov. 8. They are 8-2-3 under the defensive taskmaster and are only two points behind the Red Wings.

The Blues outshot the Red Wings 37-22 in their lone meeting, grinding them down. Detroit’s power play went 0-for-6 in its worst performance of the season.

Babcock said his team better not try to "skill" its way around the rink.

"If the other team is going to be physical and on your 'D,' and if you’re not willing to be physical and on their 'D,' eventually they’re just going to wear you out and catch you from behind, and you get turnovers all night," Babcock said.

The Blues are second in the NHL in goals against (2.12 per game) and are allowing the fewest shots (26.3 per game).

Goaltender Brian Elliott (10-2-0), who will start, is first in the league in goals-against average (1.53) and save percentage (.945).

"Just the system that they're playing, they make it hard to get scoring chances on them," Detroit captain Nicklas Lidstrom said. "They play real well, whether it’s in the offensive zone, neutral zone, and especially in the defensive zone. ... They get on top of you when they can. When they can’t, they make it harder in the neutral zone."

Jimmy Howard, second to Elliott in GAA (1.83), will be back in net for Detroit after being given a breather in Colorado, following 17 consecutive starts.


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Sorry for the delay, family was visiting and I got back home late. Anyways, no Filppula, Emmerton back in. Top 6 looks pretty average, let's see what they can do.

Could have called up Nyquist, Brunnstrom or Tatar even, but I guess this is just for one game.

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If I was Commodore I'd be getting pretty pissed by now. Let the guy play before you even bench him for 15 plus games. I have no idea why he's not playing against these physical teams that we obviously have trouble with. He would give us some much needed size and crease clrearing ability, something that we despratly need.

Good to see Bertuzzi back on the first line.

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Another game I can't watch! Let's hope they come out with a better effort. Solid game from 4 lines and we're in good shape. We might need Howard for this one.

Let's get it done boys!

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Might be able to dip in and out to watch this one here on my phone at work. Love technology.

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If I was Commodore I'd be getting pretty pissed by now. Let the guy play before you even bench him for 15 plus games. I have no idea why he's not playing against these physical teams that we obviously have trouble with. He would give us some much needed size and crease clrearing ability, something that we despratly need.

Good to see Bertuzzi back on the first line.
Well he was injured for a lot of those

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So mad Versus picked this up, and it's on TSN 2 no HD for me rage...

Hopefully Wings play a much tougher game, than last time they played the Blues... and hopefully able to rebound from that super sloppy Colorado game.

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Yikes that top six looks a lot worse without Filppula in it.

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Sorry for the delay, family was visiting and I got back home late. Anyways, no Filppula, Emmerton back in. Top 6 looks pretty average, let's see what they can do.

Could have called up Nyquist, Brunnstrom or Tatar even, but I guess this is just for one game.
Still would have liked to see Nyquist back up. Remember when they demoted him it was because the team was playing bad. Not that I really believed it, but if true they are rolling along now, the loss with Conklin in net is not to be counted too heavily. A little disappointed he wasn't given a game in the top 6, seemed to me like this was the opportunity they were talking about.

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If I was Commodore I'd be getting pretty pissed by now. Let the guy play before you even bench him for 15 plus games. I have no idea why he's not playing against these physical teams that we obviously have trouble with. He would give us some much needed size and crease clrearing ability, something that we despratly need.

Good to see Bertuzzi back on the first line.
we hardly needed him while we were on our winning streak

besides, if he comes in, it'll be for kindl, and personally, i don't wnat to see that.

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I think they signed Commodore as a emergency back up just incase Kindl didn't perform...

But Kindl so far has proven himself to be the real deal, which makes it hard for Commodore to play.

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I think they signed Commodore as a emergency back up just incase Kindl didn't perform...

But Kindl so far has proven himself to be the real deal, which makes it hard for Commodore to play.
I think the only thing that Commodore has to be upset about is he isn't even really the seventh d-man. He got hurt during camp and lost his chance to battle for the 6th spot. Kindl and Ericsson have played well enough to keep him out of the lineup. However, when White went down the fact they went with Smith (which I agree with by the way) has to have been upsetting for him.

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I think the only thing that Commodore has to be upset about is he isn't even really the seventh d-man. He got hurt during camp and lost his chance to battle for the 6th spot. Kindl and Ericsson have played well enough to keep him out of the lineup. However, when White went down the fact they went with Smith (which I agree with by the way) has to have been upsetting for him.
Oh for sure, I can see Commodore being upset, whole hearty agree. It is a shame we haven't seen much of him this season, I actually didn't mind watching him with Calgary/Carolina.

I understand why they brought up Smith, but they could have brought him up later, and like stated, allow Commodore some playing time


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this week is hell. no chance to watch any game at all

tonight could get incredibly tough game if Blues decided to show up again. They crushed Wings like an empty can last time around.

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Oh for sure, I can see if Commodore is upset, whole hearty agree. It is a shame we haven't seen much of him this season, I actually didn't mind watching him with Calgary/Carolina.

I understand why they brought up Smith, but they could have brought him up later, and like stated, allow Commodore some playing time
Commodore just seems too slow to play for us, in all honesty. The other factor is in the couple games we have seen him we were getting beat and he didn't throw down and try to spark the team. I really think that is why they got him, was to have some nastiness in the crease and fighting department. When he has been in the lineup all be it with an injury he has not done that. If I was him the next time he suits up, he should give a good go with somebody. He has to show the elements he brings the table, because he doesn't fit in if he is just going to play low minutes and wander around slowly out there.

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I think the only thing that Commodore has to be upset about is he isn't even really the seventh d-man. He got hurt during camp and lost his chance to battle for the 6th spot. Kindl and Ericsson have played well enough to keep him out of the lineup. However, when White went down the fact they went with Smith (which I agree with by the way) has to have been upsetting for him.
upset? commodore should be happy with having a NHL job that guarantees him NHL salary. he was done as NHLer. no team was even close to signing him when holland called.

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upset? commodore should be happy with having a NHL job that guarantees him NHL salary. he was done as NHLer. no team was even close to signing him when holland called.
That is pretty speculative and your opinion, which you are of course entitled to. Yes he was not claimed for 3.2 million or through re-entry waivers. However, he was called by Holland right away and told he had fifteen minutes to think on it. I am not saying he wouldn't have wound up in the AHL or KHL, but are we really certain he wouldn't have gotten another single offer later in the process? After all he got a job before Hannan did, maybe the Flames would have preferred an old player over him for a similar role and price. This wasn't an August signing, he should be happy he is making a million dollars. But, do you really think he thought he would just sit in the press box? Was that what Holland pitched him? He is a professional hockey player and I doubt this is what he envisioned or he probably would not have signed and waited for different offers.

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And just so it is not misunderstood I don't care that they don't play Commodore, was never really enamored with the signing. It was done so both Smith and Kindl would have to earn minutes and really so Smith would have to go to GR in my opinion and play huge minutes. But, I would be upset if I was him and how things turned out. That injury was unfortunate, but I don't think he really stood a chance anyhow, Kindl is just a lot better than him. Without injuries he should not play, and the problem is now it has become clear he won't play until there are two injuries, which probably wasn't even close to what he was told when he signed on the dotted line.

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That is pretty speculative and your opinion, which you are of course entitled to.
actually it's commodore's opinion. that is what he said after signing with the wings. he wasn't expecting any offer and wasn't prepared for it.

i personally think he would have gotten some offers later, but 2way only with a start in the AHL. and maybe the AHL would have been the better option for him if he wants to play a few more years. he needs to play and it's quite obvious that he won't play much in detroit.

it was pretty obvious before the season that if smith won't make the wings roster, he'd be the first callup in case a top4 D gets injured.

the wings gave him a surprising offer but he knew back then that he wouldn't be a regular nor someone with high priority.

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