Same Franchise?

[v-man]

Originally Posted by vogels13

NHL Media Guide 2010. The original Senators (also known as the Ottawa Hockey Club) organization won eleven Stanley Cups, not the current organization founded in 1990. Neither the NHL or the Senators claim the current Senators to be a continuation of the original organization or franchise. The awards, statistics and championships of both eras are kept separate and the NHL franchise founding date of the current Senators is in 1991.

Exactly. I have no problem with the current Sens honouring the history of the previous incarnation, but they're by all intents and purposes two completely different franchises. If and when these Sens win a Stanley Cup, they're not going to be the "12 time Stanley Cup Champion Ottawa Senators".

I even have issues with anyone bringing up Stanley Cups from before the expansion era. What's the point in gloating about championships achieved while there were 6 teams in the league?

[Sofa King Awesome]

I am going to say no to this as well. The previous Ottawa Senators franchised is often named the "original" senators to identify the two franchises apart.

[SilverSeven]

Lets compare the links between our sens with the old sens...

Any of the same players? Nope
Management? Nope
Owners? Nope
Building? Nope

Alright, lets do it for the Leafs...

Any of the same players? Nope
Management? Nope
Owners? Nope
Building? Nope

Ok, maybe the Habs

Any of the same players? Nope
Management? Nope
Owners? Nope
Building? Nope

Now for fun, lets compare the most playoff rounds won by these teams in one year

[Clamshells]

I support a team that plays for a city. Not a team that plays for a corporation. The team is called the OTTAWA Senators, not EUGENE's Senators. Specific ownership of franchises means nothing to me in terms of history and all that; the history will now and forever belong to the city, not a single person or corporation.

[FreakyBunny]

Originally Posted by sensjersey11

This.

The league recognizes all of our old records, awards, and cups as belinging to the current club. By definition, its the same club.

Think of when the Cleveland Browns left for Baltimore, then were awarded a new franchise a few years later. The Browns kept their history, name, colors... everything. Baltimore doesn't won any of it.

Same with the Sens.

Voted before I saw this. You, sir, have changed my mind. I kind of like the fact they are considered the same franchise. The sport of hockey as we know it today was more or less invented in the Ottawa valley...it's only fitting to recognize the current team as being heirs to that heritage.

[tony d]

I don't. That team moved to St.Louis in the 1930's and ended up folding.