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12-08-2011, 01:57 PM
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AHL Teams in Canada

Just wondering where you would think the best place for a new AHL team in Canada would be. Any places vying for one at all? Should there be more? Thanks.

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I remember rumors that Ice Edge (the group that tried to buy the Coyotes) wanted to bring an AHL team to Thunder Bay. I'm not sure if that's still a possibility or not.

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I've also heard Thunder Bay to the East Coast Hockey League.

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Would Quebec be an option or are they only interested in an NHL franchise?

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It'll never happen, as they're firmly set up in the QMJHL, but I'd kill to get Saint John (NB) back. That's a great place to visit, and a nice arena.

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the major junior product makes so much more sense for all these cities. the icecaps will likely move to thunder bay at some point in the next few years.

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Thunder Bay's really the only other one that makes sense. The rest of Canada is pretty much covered by the NHL or the various junior leagues. Thunder Bay is obviously never going to get an NHL team and they're too remote for a OHL or WHL team to be viable, so AHL (or ECHL) would make a lot of sense for them.

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It'll never happen, as they're firmly set up in the QMJHL, but I'd kill to get Saint John (NB) back. That's a great place to visit, and a nice arena.
Except that Saint John is now firmly entrenched as a Major Junior city now that the Sea Dogs have won the Memorial Cup and have very rich ownership.

Thunder Bay, Fredericton, and Trois-Rivieres are about the only candidates I can see............but all 3 also have strong CIS connections.


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Saskatoon would be great. Move their junior team to another city. Team could be the new affiliate for the Winnipeg Jets. St. John's is a great AHL city but it's awfully far away.

Saskatoon would make more sense. ABout an hour and half flight to the 'Peg.

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Saskatoon would be great. Move their junior team to another city. Team could be the new affiliate for the Winnipeg Jets. St. John's is a great AHL city but it's awfully far away.

Saskatoon would make more sense. ABout an hour and half flight to the 'Peg.
St. John's won't blow this chance w/ the Ice Caps unless there's another lease issue, blueandgoldguy, since TNSE still owns the franchise and Danny Williams(former leader of the province of NFLD/LAB) is firmly entrenched there.....

it's too bad Harbour Station, the Metro Centre (Halifax), Moncton's facility and others including Charlottetown & Sydney are now established junior markets/teams.

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Saskatoon would be great. Move their junior team to another city. Team could be the new affiliate for the Winnipeg Jets. St. John's is a great AHL city but it's awfully far away.

Saskatoon would make more sense. ABout an hour and half flight to the 'Peg.
Sasktoon is a real solid major jr market that does not mean it would be a great ahl market.

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Saskatoon for sure. Metro population of 250,000 and its a proven hockey town. No idea why its not there already

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Saskatoon for sure. Metro population of 250,000 and its a proven hockey town. No idea why its not there already
As long as Saskatoon doesn't have the GTA's "you had enough time to develop in juniors, make it in the NHL year one or get a real job!" attitude, it would likely work just fine.

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Saskatoon for sure. Metro population of 250,000 and its a proven hockey town. No idea why its not there already
A good supported major jr parket does not mean it would be a great ahl market.

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St. John's won't blow this chance w/ the Ice Caps unless there's another lease issue, blueandgoldguy, since TNSE still owns the franchise and Danny Williams(former leader of the province of NFLD/LAB) is firmly entrenched there.....

it's too bad Harbour Station, the Metro Centre (Halifax), Moncton's facility and others including Charlottetown & Sydney are now established junior markets/teams.
Too bad all these towns plus Fredericton had AHL teams for upwards of 20 years.
After the AHL exodus the Q moved in and pretty much has greater support.
I can't see any looking for a return to the AHL.

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Saskatoon for sure. Metro population of 250,000 and its a proven hockey town. No idea why its not there already
Saskatoon or Regina would have been perfect for the Moose to move to. Sadly Chipman had to get in bed with Danny Williams and Newfoundland was unwilling to give the Q a second chance.

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Victoria looked to get the Moose this spring but opted for the WHL instead.

I think Saint Johns would work good with the AHL, and honourable mention towards Regina or Saskatoon, provided they were affiliated with either the Jets, Flames, or Oilers.

London, ON could be a possibility, but I think that City would go crazy to loose the Knights.

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Victoria looked to get the Moose this spring but opted for the WHL instead.

I think Saint Johns would work good with the AHL, and honourable mention towards Regina or Saskatoon, provided they were affiliated with either the Jets, Flames, or Oilers.

London, ON could be a possibility, but I think that City would go crazy to loose the Knights.
The only way i think London were to get a team is if The dogs or Marlies moved there.

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It'll never happen, as they're firmly set up in the QMJHL, but I'd kill to get Saint John (NB) back. That's a great place to visit, and a nice arena.

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Except that Saint John is now firmly entrenched as a Major Junior city now that the Sea Dogs have won the Memorial Cup and have very rich ownership.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure I covered that.

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Victoria looked to get the Moose this spring but opted for the WHL instead.

I think Saint Johns would work good with the AHL, and honourable mention towards Regina or Saskatoon, provided they were affiliated with either the Jets, Flames, or Oilers.

London, ON could be a possibility, but I think that City would go crazy to loose the Knights.
Saint John/Harbour Station was the Flames affiliate for a decade, even winning a championship the year ('01), the league expanded to 27, and added the midwest-base.

Victoria had made their intentions known the minute the Salmon Kings were folded by acquiring Chiliwack's franchise, afaiu.

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There was a rumor back in 2009 when TNSE started looking to purchase a team that their original plan was the swap the Manitoba Moose to Saskatoon for the Saskatoon Blades, giving them an NHL/WHL tandem to run in the MTS Center like the Flames/Hitman or Oilers/Oil Kings.

However, Jack Brodsky (Blades owner) ultimately decided against it.

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Thunder Bay's really the only other one that makes sense. The rest of Canada is pretty much covered by the NHL or the various junior leagues. Thunder Bay is obviously never going to get an NHL team and they're too remote for a OHL or WHL team to be viable, so AHL (or ECHL) would make a lot of sense for them.
The WHL would not be in Ontario so that is a mute point.
How do you figure that TBay is too remote for the OHL but it wouldn't be for the A or E ?

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The WHL would not be in Ontario so that is a mute point.
How do you figure that TBay is too remote for the OHL but it wouldn't be for the A or E ?
Because the AHL and ECHL both already have fairly isolated franchises as it is (a la Vancouver and Alaska), so having a team in Thunder Bay wouldn't be that big of an issue for them. For the OHL though, they'd be a freaking island isolated by everyone else by a wide margin, so not sure that their current system would be exactly willing to reach out that far within their current structure.

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If Thunder Bay got one, Hamilton would want one too.....


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The AHL might well be the world's second best hockey league, but it does not mean that Canadians want to watch the world's second best hockey. Plus it is almost impossible to get the AHL as an accepted brand in Canada. The attendance figures for the Toronto, Hamilton and Abbotsford franchises barely rival middling CHL teams.
With all the roster churn. it is difficult for fans to get to know their team or identify with their team.
Take a team like Abbotsford, it is an impossibility to have a geographic rivalry that will work local fans into a frenzy. The WHL Calgary Hitmen atttendance wise outdraw most the AHL teams.

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