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12-08-2011, 05:23 PM
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I actually don't mind Sutton as a player. Good, not great, servicable toughness.

BUT - Sutton had ample time to target the body and NOT the head. 6'6" or not, that hit could have been a bone crusher, but not a dangerous one.

As much as I hate to see the NHL go soft on hits/fights, this hit just does not belong in the game.

He deserves a suspension, but for the teams sake, I hope it's not too big.

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12-08-2011, 05:28 PM
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He was taking penalties, costing the team and now will be suspended yet again. Yep, that's pretty valuable.
Comes with the territory. Either you want the team to be more physical or you dont. If you dont, then dont be upset when our youngsters get run through the boards on a nightly basis. A couple of minor penalties is a small price to pay for slowing up the other team and making them think twice.

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The point of having team toughness isn't to go around dishing out concussions to guys who haven't done jack to our team, is it?

I'd like to see someone take Cooke & Tootoo's heads off and I don't want to see someone take off Seguin's head or that of Alex Ponikarovsky.

You understand that pov, right?
If they can do it with a clean hit like Sutton did to Skinner last night it sure as hell is.

Hockey is a physical game and itimidation is a huge part of any physical game. Some teams bounce back up and fight back some fold and let your team walk all over them. The Oilers are finally becoming a team that doesnt fold everytime they are faced with a physical game and people complain about it.

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3-5 games. He shouldn't have left his feet. If this this garners a lengthy suspension while the Leino elbow goes unpunished, the league needs to give their head a shake.

But as awful as it sounds, we finally are becoming a team that can worry some teams on a physical level. Enough of the marshmallow hockey team they've iced over the past half-decade.

If we're going to get our a55e5 handed to us at least hurt somebody on the way out.

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12-08-2011, 05:39 PM
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Comes with the territory. Either you want the team to be more physical or you dont. If you dont, then dont be upset when our youngsters get run through the boards on a nightly basis. A couple of minor penalties is a small price to pay for slowing up the other team and making them think twice.
If physical means dumb penalties and suspensions, then no I don't want a more physical team.

There is zero evidence whatsoever that having Sutton head-shotting people, or hitting Skinner, will have any bearing on whether Hall is going to be crushed by a big-hitting d-man when he button-hooks with his head down in the corner. It is comical to think that these guys will actually be scared to hit a player because big dumb Sutton is in the lineup.

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12-08-2011, 05:52 PM
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Much deserved, Sutton is cheap and dirty. Don't like the player at all. It was a nasty hit. Get off the team Sutton.

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12-08-2011, 05:56 PM
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If physical means dumb penalties and suspensions, then no I don't want a more physical team.

There is zero evidence whatsoever that having Sutton head-shotting people, or hitting Skinner, will have any bearing on whether Hall is going to be crushed by a big-hitting d-man when he button-hooks with his head down in the corner. It is comical to think that these guys will actually be scared to hit a player because big dumb Sutton is in the lineup.
Is it out of the question that some players may be hesitant to go into Suttons corner in pursuit of he puck? If their head is on a swivel looking for Sutton, it isn't on a swivel looking for an open man to pass the puck to.

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12-08-2011, 06:01 PM
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Sutton is better than what foster was and he actually abuses people.

Btw, Sutton is plus 5 this year. And Peckham is +8
This being an example only of how worthless stats can be and which forwards these 2 have been out on the ice with.

These are the 2 worst D on the team this year. Peckham has been a complete joke. His +/- being mysterious at best.

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12-08-2011, 06:01 PM
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If they can do it with a clean hit like Sutton did to Skinner last night it sure as hell is.
Or the hit on Ponikarovsky, or the hit on Landeskog... at what point does it become too much? IMO the first time was one too many. He's on strike two here now.

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The Oilers are finally becoming a team that doesnt fold everytime they are faced with a physical game and people complain about it.
I believe you can be a tough team without being a dirty team.



Look at the pic to the left. One guy in that pic is tough, the other one injures people with dirty hits. Which one do you want as an Oiler if they were both at a similar skill level? I stop cheering for the Oilers the day they acquire Matt Cooke.


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12-08-2011, 06:09 PM
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Is it out of the question that some players may be hesitant to go into Suttons corner in pursuit of he puck? If their head is on a swivel looking for Sutton, it isn't on a swivel looking for an open man to pass the puck to.
Is it cool if they bring in a guy who's famous for laying the dirty hit, and to get them to target our star players like Sutton did Landeskog?

We finally get an elite player on our team and now we have a headhunter going around injuring players with dirty hits. IMO the Oilers have more to lose than about 28 other teams in the league. We shouldn't be playing that dirty.

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12-08-2011, 06:12 PM
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dirty play and not even needed if you want to get revenge for the smid hit fight him if not hit him clean either way hes going to feel it but no sutton goes dirty and now he will feel it

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If physical means dumb penalties and suspensions, then no I don't want a more physical team.

There is zero evidence whatsoever that having Sutton head-shotting people, or hitting Skinner, will have any bearing on whether Hall is going to be crushed by a big-hitting d-man when he button-hooks with his head down in the corner. It is comical to think that these guys will actually be scared to hit a player because big dumb Sutton is in the lineup.
They will be thinking twice about carrying the puck over our blue line, going into a corner, going in front of our net, cutting into the middle, etc.

It makes a difference.

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12-08-2011, 06:21 PM
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I don't like seeing our players throwing around dirty hits like that. Im fine with whatever Shanny gives him, Teubert is a fine replacement

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12-08-2011, 06:25 PM
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That was a nasty hit. He's got like 6 inches on the guy and still leaves his feat, and drills his head into the boards. This one is gonna be Shannys biggest so far.

12 games im thinking. Dont like it, but no reason Sutton shouldve left his feet.
He's actually got like 2 inches on him...

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12-08-2011, 06:34 PM
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Not shocked he was recently suspended and then he makes to hits yesterday that don't respect your peers.
Yet the same hits on Oilers players never get a suspension. The same hit against an Oilers player is legal apparently.

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...ore and more of a joke everyday
Considering the same hits against Oilers players never warrant a suspension.

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That sucks. I'd rather he play the way he does and get suspended than not hit anything though
Oilers aren't allowed to hit as they'll get penalized or suspended. See Ryan Jones vs Nashville.

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Yet the same hits on Oilers players never get a suspension. The same hit against an Oilers player is legal apparently.
Post a youtube of a hit even remotely close to the Sutton on Poni hit that's happened to an Oiler this season.

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We go ten years without a suspension and Sutton already has two. I like the physicality he brings but there was zero reason for him to leave his feet and bring up his arms on that hit.

He's gonna get a 8-10 game suspension. Shannaban likes to make examples out of players like Sutton and Tootoo.
Yet other teams are allowed to do the exact same thing against the Oilers and never get suspended. There's a double standard here. Cheap shot the Oilers all you want but never will they get a suspension.

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12 games.

He will be made an example of since he is a repeat (and recent) offender.

Shanahan is an expert
So when will a player get suspended for the doing the same thing against the Oilers. Won't happen. Torres is the only one that got suspended recently. Mostly teams are allowed to cheap shot the Oilers and even injure them and not worry about getting suspended.

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Sutton is not long for this franchise, but sadly he moves the puck better than Petry, Peckham, and Teubert. He will be missed in the short term.

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look at this way

id rather have andy sutton on the oilers than on another team

remember he took out 3 oilers in NY

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So people are jumping all over our own player, a guy we finally have that will dish out a little abuse. Ridiculous. The hit warrants a couple games at the very most. I guess after we dump sutton like all of the fans have decreed we can go back to having a butter soft defense in which the other teams have totally free reign in our own zone.
and not worry about getting suspended.

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It's standard core muscle follow through. You put your weight into the hit, and naturally, you leave your feet a little bit. Watch about 95% of the hits in the NHL and they'll all leave their feet to a certain degree. Some MAJORLY but they don't get noticed cuz the guy is only 6'1" instead of 6'6"

Sutton is getting screwed because of his height + new rules. The bad part is, he's not good enough to be playing a less-aggressive game.
Had the Hurricanes done the exact same thing, there wouldn't be a suspension because cheap shots are allowed against the Oilers with no supplementary discipline.

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Sutton was playing bad anyway and deserves whatever Shanny gives him. I would rather have Teubert playing anyways.

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