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12-21-2011, 06:21 PM
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Nill would be a dream but I don't see him leaving Detroit.
It always makes me wonder why we as fans have developed this attitude. There is rarely a matter like this that can't be influenced by the vast financial resources possessed by the Habs organization. It just takes will and leadership.

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12-21-2011, 06:25 PM
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I'm starting to fear we'll get some ex Hab like damphousse.
Risebrough as GM and Robinson as coach?

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12-21-2011, 06:39 PM
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Risebrough as GM and Robinson as coach?
I thought Robinson had stress issues while coaching the devils. I don't know if he wants to be the head coach of any team, let alone the toughest and most scrutinized position in all of hockey.

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12-21-2011, 06:40 PM
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Nill would be a dream but I don't see him leaving Detroit.
Just like how Yzerman was being groomed to take over the reigns for Ken Holland and "wasn't going anywhere"?

If Molson has the stones, he could go out and get him.

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12-21-2011, 06:41 PM
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do you pretend that we can't win with a bilingual/french coach?
Are you pretending you can switch his intent and be oblivious of what he's actually asking?

If at the given moment of a head coach selection process, your best candidate IS unilangual English, are you gonna chose your 2nd choice who is bilingual, or are you gonna take the one who's most likely to make you win?

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12-21-2011, 06:51 PM
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one does not exclude the other(winning and having a bilingual coach),that all i said.

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12-21-2011, 07:00 PM
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one does not exclude the other(winning and having a bilingual coach),that all i said.
In the context of the question that was asked...YES IT ****ING DOES! That was the whole point of the question, and the whole crux of the issue.

*ahem*

Now could you please answer the question that was asked?

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12-21-2011, 07:05 PM
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In the context of the question that was asked...YES IT ****ING DOES! That was the whole point of the question, and the whole crux of the issue.

*ahem*

Now could you please answer the question that was asked?
you have any data to support this ?

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12-21-2011, 07:06 PM
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i will hire the guy i feel comfortable with..the guy who share the same philosophy as me concerning how to play the game..ect..bilingual or not.

But if my boss (president or owner) tell me to hire a bilingual coach..wtf i'm suppose to do?

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12-21-2011, 07:11 PM
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one does not exclude the other(winning and having a bilingual coach),that all i said.
Answer the question :

If at the given moment of a head coach selection process, your best candidate IS unilangual English, are you gonna chose your 2nd choice who is bilingual, or are you gonna take your #1 candidate who's more likely to make you win?

If Mike Babcock is free in june (don't think he speaks much French although he did live here and went to McGill) and wants to coach here and is part of the applicants, are you gonna chose someone with less pedigre and experience just because that other candidate is bilingual?

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12-21-2011, 07:11 PM
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Patrick Roy Head Coach, assistants will be someone from the Q and maybe a guy like Desjardins or Damphousse...

Julien Brisebois GM (with Roy having alot of input in the GM's Decisions)

BOOK IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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12-21-2011, 07:14 PM
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Answer the question :

here we go professor

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i will hire the guy i feel comfortable with..the guy who share the same philosophy as me concerning how to play the game..ect..bilingual or not.

But if my boss (president or owner) tell me to hire a bilingual coach..wtf i'm suppose to do?

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12-21-2011, 07:30 PM
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Roy as the head coach is far from a given. Colorado (at least, with Columbus and Toronto as semi-distant thirds) will try to land him also.

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12-21-2011, 07:36 PM
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Roy would be the greatest thing to happen to this club since the last Stanley Cup.

Things started going downhill when he left , things will start going up once he's back.

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12-21-2011, 07:42 PM
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Roy would be the greatest thing to happen to this club since the last Stanley Cup.

Things started going downhill when he left , things will start going up once he's back.
If you think that way I've got a great tiger repelling rock I could sell you.

Not to put down Roy too much, I hear good things about how he runs things in Quebec. But if he's considered for a coaching job it should be for his track record as a coach. Not because he was a superstar in Montreal back in the day.

People also put way to much on Roy as a winner. He played for a really good Roy era Montreal team and a stacked Colorado squad throughout his career. The team in front of him was pretty much always above average to excellent while he played.

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12-21-2011, 07:54 PM
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do you pretend that we can't win with a bilingual/french coach?
not at all. You might just be limiting your chances of having a winning team by limiting your choices for coaches .....

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12-21-2011, 07:57 PM
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Roy would be the greatest thing to happen to this club since the last Stanley Cup.

Things started going downhill when he left , things will start going up once he's back.
I just can not understand how any Habs fan would want that traitor (Roy) coaching our team. He spit in the faces of the fans, gave them a literal and figurative finger, spit on our traditions, and threw a public temper tantrum like a two year old all because his coach left him in a blow out of a game and he was upset it would affect his personal statistics!!! He was getting paid millions to be a goalie and then got all pissy when told to do his job in a blow out. I never want that piece of trash in Montreal as a member of our organization for as long as he lives. Screw Roy, he couldn't even coach his own sons to be proper players or decent human beings. I would rather hire Crawford or Larry Robinson as our next coach.

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12-21-2011, 08:15 PM
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would you rather have an english speaking coach that wins or a french/bilingual coach that doesn't ?
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ok.... what comes first? Winning or having a french/bilingual coach?
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Are you pretending you can switch his intent and be oblivious of what he's actually asking?

If at the given moment of a head coach selection process, your best candidate IS unilangual English, are you gonna chose your 2nd choice who is bilingual, or are you gonna take the one who's most likely to make you win?
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In the context of the question that was asked...YES IT ****ING DOES! That was the whole point of the question, and the whole crux of the issue.

*ahem*

Now could you please answer the question that was asked?
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you have any data to support this ?
What data? It was a hypothetical question. Ozy said it best, so I will quote him, and you will try to slip your slippery little eel way out of it again:

"If at the given moment of a head coach selection process, your best candidate IS unilangual English, are you gonna chose your 2nd choice who is bilingual, or are you gonna take the one who's most likely to make you win?"

If you can't answer a flat out "unilingual anglo ftw" to this question, we're done.

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12-21-2011, 09:21 PM
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I am over 30. I want Roy here. The guy knows about winning.
As a coach? That's all I'm interested in. He's never coached in professional hockey. Furthermore, I don't think he has a suitable temperament.

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12-21-2011, 09:23 PM
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I think you nailed it, Darche Desharnais and Leblanc not being able to get communication from the coach is what's killing us.

Let's please a few idiots in the media instaed of trying to win hockey games...brilliant!
THe players understand English. Leblanc and Darche have at least some university education. Period.

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12-21-2011, 09:29 PM
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do you pretend that we can't win with a bilingual/french coach?
Your hypothetical coach has to be good or it doesn't matter if he's quadrilingual. Speaking French ranks far behind speaking hockey.

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12-21-2011, 09:34 PM
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While this is true (and add to the fact that Québecois French contains a lot of anglisisms as well) vocabulary isn't the trouble to second language learning. It's the syntax and morphology that's problematic, and that's VERY different in English and French.
I've been to France several times and in Paris I heard modern French. The Québécois speak a bastardized version of something handed down from the time of Rabelais.

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12-21-2011, 09:36 PM
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Do you support the way Randy is being treated by the media?
I think he's doing a creditable job...no worse than Martin so far.

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12-21-2011, 09:37 PM
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Teufelsdreck... How about you use the multi quote function.

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12-21-2011, 09:38 PM
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When did the Habs have their last good French coach?

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