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12-12-2011, 05:16 PM
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I live in Cleveland. Here's the breakdown I've noticed here:

#1: Pittsburgh Penguins - most of the native Clevelander hockey fans and a small population of Pittsburgh ex-pats.
OK, THIS surprises me considering how much most Clevelanders I know despise all other teams from Pittsburgh (especially the Steelers).

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Atlanta is a booming market with an arena ready.
Problem is the ready arena is still controlled by the ******** owners who sabotaged the on-ice product to help move hockey out of it.

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OK, THIS surprises me considering how much most Clevelanders I know despise all other teams from Pittsburgh (especially the Steelers).
No, he pretty much hit it right on the head. And the Steelers have a big following in NE Ohio. For some strange reason.

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12-13-2011, 11:09 PM
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Another interesting city here is Albany and the rest of upstate NY. It's really a coin toss between the Rangers and Sabres for most popular, however there's also a sizeable presence of Boston fans and other random teams. As you go more north, you even start to get a mix of random Canadian fans.

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Another interesting city here is Albany and the rest of upstate NY. It's really a coin toss between the Rangers and Sabres for most popular, however there's also a sizeable presence of Boston fans and other random teams. As you go more north, you even start to get a mix of random Canadian fans.
I know there's a lot of Habs fans around Plattsburgh for obvious reasons. But yeah, upstate New York, especially north of Albany, is very mixed.

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Another interesting city here is Albany and the rest of upstate NY. It's really a coin toss between the Rangers and Sabres for most popular, however there's also a sizeable presence of Boston fans and other random teams. As you go more north, you even start to get a mix of random Canadian fans.
New York State, especially upstate, I would think should be considered to be solid hockey territory, though I'm not the one to say that with certainty.
What's the chance, though, of Albany ever getting an NHL team? Rochester probably has a better chance, but neither one will likely ever be part of an NHL-team map.


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I know Atlanta doesn't have a team anymore but...

I went to a Greenville Growl game in 2006 (the last year of the Growl btw) and noticed more Thrasher jerseys in the crowd than Hurricanes. I don't know how it was at Road Warrior games last season but I imagine it hadn't changed much. The proximity to Atlanta compared to Raleigh probably gave the Thrashers the edge in the SC Upstate.

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Moreorr, I think in the US, most in-between cities are rather indifferent to the NHL.

It has been my observation that in-between cities and non-market cities in the US will usually care about the nearest MLB and NFL team.
However, NHL and NBA alike usually have more concentrated fanbases within their immediate metropolitian areas, moreso than baseball and football.

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Canada I think is an interesting case. You will find that the breakdown occurs partly along generations. Anyone who grew up in the Original 6 era would generally be either a Leafs or a Habs fan. The rest would be spread out amongst the other 28 NHL teams.

For instance, take my elementary school class, as I grew up in Saskatoon. I remember there being 3 or 4 Winnipeg Jets fans, 1 Calgary Flames fan, a few Oilers fans, a couple Canucks fans, a Minnesota North Stars fan, a couple Pittsburgh Penguins fans, a Tampa Bay Lightning fan and me a LA Kings fan. I think this is the stereotypical breakdown of fans who grew up after the Original 6 era in Western Canada. I'm not sure how many survived to adulthood, but in Saskatchewan you had pockets of Kings fans who moved from the Oilers with Gretzky. It was always good for me to dress up on Halloween as Wayne Gretzky because there were a few houses who'd give me more candy than my friends.

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Moreorr, I think in the US, most in-between cities are rather indifferent to the NHL.

It has been my observation that in-between cities and non-market cities in the US will usually care about the nearest MLB and NFL team.
However, NHL and NBA alike usually have more concentrated fanbases within their immediate metropolitian areas, moreso than baseball and football.
Honestly, that was partly my suspicion. Although, I was thinking it would have more to do with the size of the respective city and an attitude that... 'we're a big city so if we don't have our own major league team, we're not about to follow another city's team'...

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12-18-2011, 12:25 PM
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Hartford

People here still miss the Whalers and want them back badly. No allegiance to Rangers or Bruins, never Islanders. More Flyiers and Red Wings fans here than that.
Hartford is biggest tv market without a pro team. Whalers merchandise flying off shelves. Effort to bring back NHL is all over tv, radio and newspaper here. Howard baldwin is leading the effort, but now Richard Gordon is on board, too

http://dennishouse.wordpress.com/201...k-the-bishops/

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People here still miss the Whalers and want them back badly. No allegiance to Rangers or Bruins, never Islanders. More Flyiers and Red Wings fans here than that.
Hartford is biggest tv market without a pro team. Whalers merchandise flying off shelves. Effort to bring back NHL is all over tv, radio and newspaper here. Howard baldwin is leading the effort, but now Richard Gordon is on board, too

http://dennishouse.wordpress.com/201...k-the-bishops/
Somehow, I doubt that.

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People here still miss the Whalers and want them back badly. No allegiance to Rangers or Bruins, never Islanders. More Flyiers and Red Wings fans here than that.
Hartford is biggest tv market without a pro team. Whalers merchandise flying off shelves. Effort to bring back NHL is all over tv, radio and newspaper here. Howard baldwin is leading the effort, but now Richard Gordon is on board, too

http://dennishouse.wordpress.com/201...k-the-bishops/
Somehow, I doubt that.
Hartford IS the largest US media market - #30 DMA - without an NFL/MLB/NBA/NHL team.

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Local Television Market Universe Estimates
Comparisons of 2010-11 and 2011-12 Market Ranks

Rank Rank Difference DMA Name TV Homes TV Homes
1 1 New York 7,515,330 7,387,810
2 2 Los Angeles 5,666,900 5,569,780
3 3 Chicago 3,502,610 3,493,480
4 4 Philadelphia 3,015,820 2,993,370
5 5 Dallas-Ft. Worth 2,594,630 2,571,310
6 6 San Francisco-Oak-San Jose 2,523,520 2,506,510
7 7 Boston (Manchester) 2,460,290 2,379,690
9 8 +1 Washington, DC (Hagrstwn) 2,389,710 2,360,180
8 9 -1 Atlanta 2,407,080 2,292,640
10 10 Houston 2,177,220 2,185,260
11 11 Detroit 1,883,840 1,842,650
13 12 +1 Seattle-Tacoma 1,874,750 1,811,420
12 13 -1 Phoenix (Prescott) 1,881,310 1,811,330
14 14 Tampa-St. Pete (Sarasota) 1,795,200 1,788,240
15 15 Minneapolis-St. Paul 1,753,780 1,721,940
16 16 Miami-Ft. Lauderdale 1,580,580 1,583,800
17 17 Denver 1,572,740 1,548,570
18 18 Cleveland-Akron (Canton) 1,526,200 1,514,170
19 19 Orlando-Daytona Bch-Melbrn 1,453,120 1,465,460
20 20 Sacramnto-Stkton-Modesto 1,409,400 1,388,570
21 21 St. Louis 1,258,580 1,253,920
22 22 Portland, OR 1,197,780 1,190,010
24 23 +1 Pittsburgh 1,160,820 1,171,490
25 24 +1 Raleigh-Durham (Fayetvlle) 1,131,310 1,143,420
23 25 -2 Charlotte 1,166,180 1,140,900
27 26 +1 Indianapolis 1,106,420 1,109,970
26 27 -1 Baltimore 1,108,360 1,097,310
28 28 San Diego 1,089,010 1,077,600
29 29 Nashville 1,039,430 1,024,560
30 30 Hartford & New Haven 1,018,770 1,006,280

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People here still miss the Whalers and want them back badly. No allegiance to Rangers or Bruins, never Islanders. More Flyiers and Red Wings fans here than that.
Hartford is biggest tv market without a pro team. Whalers merchandise flying off shelves. Effort to bring back NHL is all over tv, radio and newspaper here. Howard baldwin is leading the effort, but now Richard Gordon is on board, too

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then why is Baldwin lamenting the fact tht less than 2K showed up for the team he a)doesn't own, b) has been bought out of more than 1 city, including Pittsburgh, sold another to a corrupt group who leveraged it as collateral, what's the hook for Hartford after last year's semi-success @ Rentschler, whalers2010, add in the most foolish promotion of all, changing the identity of the franchise mid-year, is tht smart business acumen, and where is Baldwin going to build a new arena to house a franchise he only operates..... the same set of circumstances that drove the original franchise to NC, EVEN Whale/Wolf*Pack fans have elected to ignore the Whale....

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