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01-10-2013, 05:25 PM
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Which is why I believe Guild Wars 1 and 2 succeeded so well compared to others, because they give you so much of the game (with the core game), make it F2P, but it has no pay-to-win elements whatsoever. Not only that, they come out with expansions every 6 to 12 months, make it last longer, adds a **** ton of content and still doesn't require a paid subscription. Outside of WoW (I feel), the paid subscription fee in this day and age is really not the way to go. Look how many higher end MMOs that have come out (TOR, Tera, Secret World, D&DO, LOTRO, etc.) and they all started with P2P and now are all (or already have gone to) F2P because they can't sustain themselves as such.
Every single game you listed except for Secret World (which I can't see why they charged to begin with for that) was a WoW clone.

SE is making the worthy sequel to FFXI, and while the landscape has changed, they believe there's a group of people that'll pay for their content, and considering how successful they were with XI, I doubt they are going to be wrong.

As long as they remember that and don't get lost with either trying to compete with WoW or steal people from it, they'll be fine. More than enough room in the market for a true hardcore MMO.

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01-10-2013, 05:28 PM
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Tera was not really a WoW clone as it was more of a clone of Vindictus.

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Tera was not really a WoW clone as it was more of a clone of Vindictus.
I agree that the gameplay was nothing like WOW, but their marketing was all aimed at the WOW addicts, Rift did something similar.

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01-16-2013, 02:07 PM
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This looks fun.

http://www.jp.square-enix.com/ff_atb/en/trailer.html


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I just got super back into FFXI a few weeks ago. Started from scratch, approaching my second 99 job right now but still have tons of stuff I have to do, just to get the basics out of the way. Anyone interested in playing, I'm on Phoenix.

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01-17-2013, 01:20 PM
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Please refrain from purchasing the game I have posted above.
Its terrible.

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01-18-2013, 04:29 AM
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Please refrain from purchasing the game I have posted above.
Its terrible.
This game is being shredded on the reviews on the App Store. SE is a joke

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01-18-2013, 10:04 AM
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Yup, Square continues to be the worst mobile game developer in the world.

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I have FF1 for my old samsung cell phone and it is god awful. The music is in midi and each song ALWAYs starts over after entering a house, battle etc. This means that you get to hear the world map theme's first 10 seconds over, over, over and ****ing over all the ****ing time. In midi.

Dont buy it.

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I have a friend that refuses to believe it's a bad game . This is the same guy who thinks the writing is good with FF13 and absolutely abhors FF7.

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What's wrong with the mobile game? The concept looked neat, at least. I was looking forward to it. Love playing FFT on my iPhone.

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http://www.ign.com/videos/2013/01/17...ll-the-bravest

http://kotaku.com/5976753/final-fant...ing-for-a-game

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What's wrong with the mobile game? The concept looked neat, at least. I was looking forward to it. Love playing FFT on my iPhone.
Do you like tactics? Because All The Bravest has none. You swipe you finger on the screen and nothing else. For 4 dollars. You can unlock new levels for 4 dollars each. You can buy a random hero for a dollar each. There are 35. So if you want to unlock everything, $quare will ask for 51 dollars.

Just despicable. And ALL YOU DO IS RUB YOUR SCREEN, mindlessly.

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I have FF1 for my old samsung cell phone and it is god awful. The music is in midi and each song ALWAYs starts over after entering a house, battle etc. This means that you get to hear the world map theme's first 10 seconds over, over, over and ****ing over all the ****ing time. In midi.

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I have a friend that refuses to believe it's a bad game . This is the same guy who thinks the writing is good with FF13 and absolutely abhors FF7.
I guess I'm one of the few who likes FFI. I have it on my phone and I have fun with it.

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I meant All the Bravest, not FFI.

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I meant All the Bravest, not FFI.
D'oh! Brainfart on my part then. Carry on.

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SE really needs to start pumping out more FF14 info..hard to get people interested when there's nothing to post

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Tempted to play some IX and X again but will probly wait for X HD to come out for that. Also want to try XII againf or some reason.. will probly just stop again due to not being able to enjoy it. Sad cause I want to like it.

Yeah still waiting for XIV updates. I'm in no rush though.

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Tempted to play some IX and X again but will probly wait for X HD to come out for that. Also want to try XII againf or some reason.. will probly just stop again due to not being able to enjoy it. Sad cause I want to like it.

Yeah still waiting for XIV updates. I'm in no rush though.
When you play XII, just keep in mind that it is a great game, but a bad Final Fantasy. Then, everything should be fine. Thats what i did. XII has alot of great gameplay if you can survive the horrible characters, story and music.

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When you play XII, just keep in mind that it is a great game, but a bad Final Fantasy. Then, everything should be fine. Thats what i did. XII has alot of great gameplay if you can survive the horrible characters, story and music.
Vaan, which is considered the main character, literally has no reason to be in the game in the first place.

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Vaan, which is considered the main character, literally has no reason to be in the game in the first place.
It is not that wrong to say that he is a just a dumb blonde. Basch was supposed to be the main character i belive, but the japs went with a teen in the end...

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It is not that wrong to say that he is a just a dumb blonde. Basch was supposed to be the main character i belive, but the japs went with a teen in the end...
Still, Vaan is less punch-in-the-face worthy than Tidus. I mean, I liked FFX mainly because the gameplay itself I liked a lot (especially how the turn based system worked).

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Still, Vaan is less punch-in-the-face worthy than Tidus. I mean, I liked FFX mainly because the gameplay itself I liked a lot (especially how the turn based system worked).
I disagre. Tidus was a very likeable character who played a huge part in the story. I liked Tidus alot. Other than that laughter scene

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I disagre. Tidus was a very likeable character who played a huge part in the story. I liked Tidus alot. Other than that laughter scene
The whole "This is my story" ******** really did get on my nerves. He did belong in the story yes, but my god his voice and how self-centered he is...

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When you play XII, just keep in mind that it is a great game, but a bad Final Fantasy. Then, everything should be fine. Thats what i did. XII has alot of great gameplay if you can survive the horrible characters, story and music.
Eh yeah I might try that the next time around. Don't think I have my copy anymore though. I don't think that tactic will work with VIII though. That one is even worse for me to try and get into.

Loved X and Tidus though. That ending..

Sick of all the damn XIII games though. Can't believe a title that got so much hate is getting another sequel in the series.

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