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2011 NL MVP Ryan Braun tested positive for PEDs (EDIT: wins appeal! No suspension)

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02-23-2012, 04:19 PM
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Is he the first person to win appeal

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From the Brewers' perspective, an enormous decision... I'd be curious how the Vegas odds shift for MIL with this.

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AP sent a retraction to one of our TV stations saying there was a mixup. They now agree Braun won.
Thanks, never trust AP

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02-23-2012, 04:22 PM
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Favorite tweet on this so far by far is Braun defeats Truman.

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02-23-2012, 04:25 PM
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Favorite tweet on this so far by far is Braun defeats Truman.
And now that I post this Keith Law tops it with "I wonder how Scott Walker feels about unions today."

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http://twitter.com/andylevy/statuses/172808597321949184
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Braun is the first major league player to have a positive drug test overturned jsonline.com/blogs/sports/1…
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braun won by 2-1 vote. #mlb

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02-23-2012, 04:31 PM
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More like a 1-0 vote. A representative for MLB was against Braun, the players union rep. was for Braun, the only vote that mattered was the vote of Shyam Das who was the independent arbiter.

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http://brewersbeat.mlblogs.com/2012/...aun-statement/

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This pleases me. Braun is a favorite of mine.

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Awesome!

Signed him to a 3 year deal in my keeper league. Now I am not in the hole for the first 50 games.

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Have they revealed why? His testosterone levels were awfully high...

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no, braun only appealed the protocol wasn't followed. he didn't appeal the positive.

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Braun test sample collector thought FedEx/Kinkos was closed because it was late on a Saturday. MLB is livid and considering options.
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Yeah, that's BS. I wonder how much money Shyam Das was slipped to rule in the MLBPA's favor.

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Ryan Braun was awfully confident this would be overturned, and it was. Seeing as he is the first I think we can assume he had very good reason to be confident.

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yeah, the protocol wasn't followed. he still tested positive for ped's. can't wait for him to get the bonds treatment from the media and fans...oh wait.

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yeah, the protocol wasn't followed. he still tested positive for ped's. can't wait for him to get the bonds treatment from the media and fans...oh wait.
it sounds like the guy who took the test took the sample home. I would be pretty pissed to if that happened and was going to have my name permanently tarnished based on the outcome of the test. If it cannot be delivered via courier right away then it should be kept in a secure location, not some guy's fridge at home.

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again, he tested positive for ped's.

but he's going to get a pass solely based on chain of custody issues and the fans are going to ignore the positive.

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again, he tested positive for ped's.

but he's going to get a pass solely based on chain of custody issues and the fans are going to ignore the positive.
well seeing as the sample wasn't kept in a secure location it was open to sabotage. It was not a valid test so he hasn't really tested positive.

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Once again, chain of custody is a huge issue especially when reading this.

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IIRC all of these tests are run on a mass spectrometer. You can easily have metabolic/degradation of other molecules in the sample that would overlap with the position where Testosterone is supposed to be located. In this example they were using an unusual T:E ratio indicating an issue. T and E degrade at different rates. A sample could easily show a dramatic altering of the T:E ratio depending on how it was handled in a short period of time. I work with DNA all the time and it is pretty stable under varied conditions, but proteins and other small molecules can degrade within minutes under the wrong circumstances. Chain of command is definitely an issue.

How they even tested the sample is beyond me. Clearly they need to change the policy that any sample that is not sent within X hours of collection will not be tested because it has been compromised by handling.

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again, he tested positive for ped's.

but he's going to get a pass solely based on chain of custody issues and the fans are going to ignore the positive.
Well there's a reason that the chain of custody exists.

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