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12-10-2011, 08:50 PM
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He should get suspended for that, there should be no tolerance for diving like this. Pathetic, must have learned that from Crosby.
he was bleeding from the face and needed stitches.

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12-10-2011, 08:51 PM
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It says more about the isles than the refs if that's true. 1 goal due to a bad call is never enough to deflate a good team.
You fail to understand Hamonic is our best D-man as well... less Hamonic = more of anyone else on our D... which is not a good thing

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Actually it was Anisimov who has sneaked into the rink.


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Not saying that's what happened but in hockey 1 goal is enough to swing the momentum and completely deflate the other team.
only against loser teams with a weak mentality

Not a good call but I don't get this expectation that refs be perfect. We have so much tv-slow mo ability now we can analyze everything and even still its hard to see what happened. It's unrealistic and unfair to get on refs for possibly missing a call like that in real time. I'm of the opinion that they should be criticized only when you know there's a realistically attainable standard that they are failing to meet.

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He should get suspended for that, there should be no tolerance for diving like this. Pathetic, must have learned that from Crosby.


You people aren't even trying to hide your trolling anymore, there's a reason there's been 2 closed threads already.

It was a bad call, the wrong call, the end. There's literally nothing more you can add that can't be designated as trolling or provided with evidence to counter any conspiracy claim.


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It says more about the isles than the refs if that's true. 1 goal due to a bad call is never enough to deflate a good team.
It's a bit of both wouldnt you say?

And I think it's very apparent that the Isles are a "streaky" team at best and need things to not go wrong in order to win games.

And I disagree with your sentiment to an extent.
If a team is leading 5-0 and a bad penalty causes the other team to break the shutout it certainly will not swing the momentum.

If it's a game tying goal it's a completely different game.
Bad teams falter , good teams capitalize. And that's what happened today, whether you agree with it or not .

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He should get suspended for that, there should be no tolerance for diving like this. Pathetic, must have learned that from Crosby.
Did you not watch the game or read the thread?

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Just lost a lot of respect for Orpik after seeing that kind of embellishment...

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1 goal due to a bad call can deflate a fragile team, which the Islanders are. You can't say they deserved to lose because they're fragile, because they shouldn't have been put in that situation.
They did deserve to lose because fragile teams are bad teams. Bad calls happen to every team and no pens fan is arguing it wasn't a terrible call, it was. But it happens sometimes, and it was a tie game after that. The Isles lay down and the rest of the game was all Pittsburgh.

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1 goal due to a bad call can deflate a fragile team, which the Islanders are. You can't say they deserved to lose because they're fragile, because they shouldn't have been put in that situation.
"Fragile team"!??! What is this?!? A chess league?!??

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He should get suspended for that, there should be no tolerance for diving like this. Pathetic, must have learned that from Crosby.
He didn't dive, the only thing pathetic there was the refs making a bad call. Just because the Islanders collapsed as expected doesn't mean he should get suspended. If anyone should booted for a few games, it should be the officials.

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12-10-2011, 08:56 PM
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wow, that was a horrible call.

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Is it too late to remind the rest of HF that there's no video replay used on penalty calls?

Just sayin'.
There should be more of a reason to review penalties like this. Not all the minor penalties, but the majors being called should get reviewed by the league WHILE the game is going on, adjust as needed. If you want to call a minor there, I don't find it that big of a deal, but the major can be deflating.

The bigger issue is the next penalty on the major resulting in the 5 on 3. You can't do something like that against a team like Pittsburgh, even with the guys they have out. They'll pick you apart after that.

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Momentum is such an overused word.
Which means you have never played in front of a large crowd that carries you and makes it easier for you to run/skate.
Momentum exists , and any athlete who at one point in his life played in a stadium with a significant amount of spectators will tell you it can be a very deciding factor.

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Just lost a lot of respect for Orpik after seeing that kind of embellishment...
I'm losing a lot of respect for posters who seem to be unable to read a thread before posting in it.

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I'm sure some techie will make a vid for everyone to make it clearer but here's what happened...

Orpik had his arms up after a dump in trying to brace for a hit. Hamonic brought his elbow up to Orpik's chest level and accidentally hit Orpik's stick with his elbow/forearm. The shaft of Orpik's stick hit him right in between the eyes, and Orpik went down. The refs saw the blood, figured it was by an elbow, and made an awful call.

It wasn't a dive, but a bad call. When Orpik came back there was a bad cut literally between the eyes. This was on occasion where the refs need to be able to look at replays to take back a call. It wasn't just the PP, but Hamonic misses the rest of the game.

It was a horrible call, but I want to start a pool right now on when this becomes a "Refs favor the Pens" discussion.

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I'm sure some techie will make a vid for everyone to make it clearer but here's what happened...

Orpik had his arms up after a dump in trying to brace for a hit. Hamonic brought his elbow up to Orpik's chest level and accidentally hit Orpik's stick with his elbow/forearm. The shaft of Orpik's stick hit him right in between the eyes, and Orpik went down. The refs saw the blood, figured it was by an elbow, and made an awful call.

It wasn't a dive, but a bad call. When Orpik came back there was a bad cut literally between the eyes. This was on occasion where the refs need to be able to look at replays to take back a call. It wasn't just the PP, but Hamonic misses the rest of the game.

It was a horrible call, but I want to start a pool right now on when this becomes a "Refs favor the Pens" discussion.
No way can the league allow the Islanders to beat the Pens.

Refs favor the Pens

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You fail to understand Hamonic is our best D-man as well... less Hamonic = more of anyone else on our D... which is not a good thing
I understand, but bad calls happen. Injuries happen. Pittsburgh played without Crosby, Staal, Letang, and Michalek.

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"Fragile team"!??! What is this?!? A chess league?!??
No, it's a SPORTS league... you know where they use terms like team chemistry and such? Believe it or not but these things exist.

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Just lost a lot of respect for Orpik after seeing that kind of embellishment...
he was bleeding from the head. he came back later with stitches right between his eyes.

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I'm sure some techie will make a vid for everyone to make it clearer but here's what happened...

Orpik had his arms up after a dump in trying to brace for a hit. Hamonic brought his elbow up to Orpik's chest level and accidentally hit Orpik's stick with his elbow/forearm. The shaft of Orpik's stick hit him right in between the eyes, and Orpik went down. The refs saw the blood, figured it was by an elbow, and made an awful call.

It wasn't a dive, but a bad call. When Orpik came back there was a bad cut literally between the eyes. This was on occasion where the refs need to be able to look at replays to take back a call. It wasn't just the PP, but Hamonic misses the rest of the game.

It was a horrible call, but I want to start a pool right now on when this becomes a "Refs favor the Pens" discussion.
Refs favor the Pens





I agree wholeheartedly with the bolded. In the end, with respect to the Isles, I think that it was the fact that Hamonic got a game which really screwed them over, since the rest of our defense kinda sucks... though a 5-3 does suck big time

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he was bleeding from the head. he came back later with stitches right between his eyes.
Man it looked like such a DEEP cut too.

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bad calls going the Pens way who would have thought it possible?

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I understand, but bad calls happen. Injuries happen. Pittsburgh played without Crosby, Staal, Letang, and Michalek.
Yeah, but your offense without those guys >>>>>> our defense without Hamonic,Macdonald... its unfortunate really, but its what we really need to adress this coming offseason

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It's a bit of both wouldnt you say?

And I think it's very apparent that the Isles are a "streaky" team at best and need things to not go wrong in order to win games.

And I disagree with your sentiment to an extent.
If a team is leading 5-0 and a bad penalty causes the other team to break the shutout it certainly will not swing the momentum.

If it's a game tying goal it's a completely different game.
Bad teams falter , good teams capitalize. And that's what happened today, whether you agree with it or not .
The Isles' first goal was scored on the powerplay after Malkin had his stick held and was called for hooking. The Isles 3rd goal was scored after Neal was held in the offensive zone allowing the Isles to break out with an odd man rush. So the Isles have the lead 3-2, and then they get their 4th powerplay, to the Pens' zero at that point. They fail to score and take a penalty of their own after Tavares forces a pass to Jurcina and Jurcina is forced to grab Joe Vitale to prevent him from going on a breakaway.

So blaming the refs for the Isles losing this game is pretty ridiculous.

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